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nick baker

posted on 22/2/05 at 09:02 AM Reply With Quote
shouldn't be aproblems as it shouldn't be allowed to get hot...

If your plakky get hot when you machine it, you're doing something wrong!!

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Alan B

posted on 22/2/05 at 01:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
I use PTFE impregnated acetal for bedal and gear linkage pivots. Best of both worlds with moisture absorbtion less than 0.2%. Nylon will swell far more in a damp environment, which can result in a tight bush.
Is Delrin (acetal) available in the UK? I thought it was a US brand.


Rorty I believe that Delrin is a US brand name, although acetal branded some other way should be readily available everywhere.

I agree BTW, Delrin is great stuff.

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 22/2/05 at 05:00 PM Reply With Quote
my local machining guys makes stuff from "delrin" all the time.





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timmy

posted on 23/2/05 at 01:55 AM Reply With Quote
Just to stick in my 2c... (I used to work in a plastics engineering crowd):

Nylon is a great material for bushings in general. Very tough and easy to machine. Moisture absorption is it's downfall but only really if it's extremely humid or is immersed in water. You can get oil-filled nylon also (oilon, Ertalon LFX) that is even better but a bit more pricey.
PTFE/Teflon is also a great bushing material but it's quite soft, expensive and wears away quickly.
UHMWPE (Ultra-high Molecular Weight Polyethylene) is sometimes mistaken for teflon because it's really slippery. It's also good for bushes but it's also soft and difficult to machine if you don't have the right tool (ooh er) - it can get really stringy when turning. But the wear resistance is shedloads better than telfon and is heaps cheaper.
Some of the other engineering plastics - Acetal (Ertacetal, Delrin) and PETP (Ertalyte) would also be good for pedal bushes. A bit brittle but excellent for machining and very precise. Also there is bugger-all moisture absorption.

Hope this helps....

Tim

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Rorty

posted on 23/2/05 at 02:05 AM Reply With Quote
Timmy, you didn't happen to work for Dotmar PBE by any chance?





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timmy

posted on 23/2/05 at 03:24 AM Reply With Quote
Nope - but I used to deal with them very closely when I was in that game.
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bigandy

posted on 23/2/05 at 08:55 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for all the info chaps, it is much appreciated!

I've got a few lengths of acetal (Delrin apparently!) on order, so I'll see how i go with machining that on my little lathe!

Cheers
Andy





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Terrapin_racing

posted on 24/2/05 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
Done this type of work many times. Without doubt the best material to use is green self lube nyloil (RS components sell this relatively inexpensively in 1m lengths)

Typical coefficient half that of other lubricated nylons

High resistance to water consumption

Excellent hardness, durability and creep resistance qualities

Free cutting properties enable tight machining tolerances

For all bearing, bush, gear, roller and wheel applications

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