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andyharding - 4/2/06 at 06:42 PM

My GTS bonnet is so thin in 400miles it has sagged down and is touching the engine. I had a look at an MK bonnet the other day and it seems light years ahead. Just a note for anyone trying decide what to use...

So much for the quality making up for the poo service!

[Edited on 4/2/06 by andyharding]


ecosse - 4/2/06 at 06:51 PM

I can't comment on the quality yet as i'm still waiting to see it first hand
4 weeks since paying and still counting

Going to try MNR or MK for the rest of my bits now.

A question on MK though, I spoke to MKEngineering (yes they even answer the phone ) regarding a DeDion axle, what is the connection now to MKSportscars, same people or separate company, anyone dealt with either and able to comment on the service?

Cheers

Alex
PS
Sorry, post hijacking a bit here


zilspeed - 4/2/06 at 06:54 PM

Best I've ever seen was on the old Spyder Silverstone which was a proper monocoque construction in it's own right.
Complete with lightweight punched aluminium strengthening ribs. It was like looking at a section of an aircraft.


Hellfire - 4/2/06 at 07:02 PM

Brief history:

MK = Martin Keenan, founder of the MK brand of seven style kit cars, GT1's and GTR's.

Sold the seven style kit cars business in 2004 - Now called MK Sportscars.

Martin trades as MK Engineering

Superb service from either company.


andyharding - 4/2/06 at 07:19 PM

MK Sportscars is run by Phil, Martins brother so both business' are still in the same family.

I'm using a modified MK Eng. DeDion. Excellent.


scotty g - 5/2/06 at 08:14 AM

Which bonnet do you have, the locost bonnet or the Panther bonnet? I would guess that its a locost bonnet as the Panther one is pretty good anyway, it would be reletively easy to strengthen it up with a re-enforcing rib on the underside running laterally across.
For future reference i know that they have now strengthened all their bonnets to help stop this from happening.
Their GRP guy is working towards improving all the moulds and construction methods to improve the overall quality.


Hellfire - 5/2/06 at 10:06 AM

If they already know about this problem and are strengthening their bonnets as a result of it, I'd ask for a replacement bonnet FOC...........

Fit for purpose.... and all that.

[Edited on 5-2-06 by Hellfire]


scotty g - 5/2/06 at 10:26 AM

I would disagree, all companies should have a policy of continuous improvement and developement.
What your saying is that someone who owns a mk1 Focus has a right to taking it back to Ford and demanding a brand new mk2 on the grounds that its a superior model, it just don't happen.
I would suggest that you give Darren a call and see if he is prepared to help you out in any way but i personally don't see that its his resposibilty. Add to this the hassle of it all i would recomend doing it yourself, its really very easy.
Cheers.


andyharding - 5/2/06 at 10:33 AM

There's a difference between something which is an improvement over a sound original design and a replacement for a part not fit for the job. The GTS bonnet I have is not fit for the job and as such I agree 100% with Hellfire.

I could and will add some ribs to the bonnet but I shouldn't have to. I didn't have to improve the wishbones I bought from MK or the lights I bought from SVC so why is it OK for GTS to sell me crap and it not be there problem?

I'm already on my 2nd bonnet as the first one was damaged due to poo packaging. It took 3 months to get the replacement.

GTS don't seem to send out parts to new paying customers so I reckon my chance of getting a FOC new bonnet is say 0%!

I know how I am going to fix this problem, posting here wasn't to get advice on that subject but to warn others that GTS are a complete and under waste of time and space and not to buy from them!

No doubt the loyal GTS customers will chirp up now. Unless you've done several hundered miles with your completed car you're not really in a position to comment on the suitability of a part for the job. How things behave on the road is very different to how good they look in the garage.

Rant over.

quote:
Originally posted by scotty g
I would disagree, all companies should have a policy of continuous improvement and developement.
What your saying is that someone who owns a mk1 Focus has a right to taking it back to Ford and demanding a brand new mk2 on the grounds that its a superior model, it just don't happen.
I would suggest that you give Darren a call and see if he is prepared to help you out in any way but i personally don't see that its his resposibilty. Add to this the hassle of it all i would recomend doing it yourself, its really very easy.
Cheers.


scotty g - 5/2/06 at 10:46 AM

Wasn't "chirping up", just trying to help, its clearly not appreciated so i'll go now.


BKLOCO - 5/2/06 at 11:07 AM

You whingers never cease to amaze me!!

You come on here moaning and rubbishing companies when you haven't even had the common decency to discuss your problem with the people concerned.

This forum is primarily for builders of Seven style kit or scratch build cars to exchange information to aid them in the construction of such cars.

I personally have nothing to do with GTS, short of owning one, but hate to see people knocking businesses unjustly.

What is your basic aim in keeping attacking one manufacturer? Are you trying to affect his trade and ultimately put him out of business? If you own one of his products this is not really a very smart move!

I would suggest that if you have problems with any manufacturer there are far more effective courses of action and redress open to you if you have GENUINE complaints than moaning and whinging on here.

In short…..Put up….or….Shut up.

Now I’ll wait for the attacks…..
.


BKLOCO - 5/2/06 at 11:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by andyharding
How things behave on the road is very different to how good they look in the garage.

Rant over.

This is also true of some of the people who drive them....


Triton - 5/2/06 at 11:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scotty g
Which bonnet do you have, the locost bonnet or the Panther bonnet? I would guess that its a locost bonnet as the Panther one is pretty good anyway, it would be reletively easy to strengthen it up with a re-enforcing rib on the underside running laterally across.
For future reference i know that they have now strengthened all their bonnets to help stop this from happening.
Their GRP guy is working towards improving all the moulds and construction methods to improve the overall quality.


Octopus then


scotty g - 5/2/06 at 11:56 AM

I'm not sure whats worse any more, the constant whinging and bitching or the sarcastics digs that appear on every single thread involving GTS.
Some people should really get their sh1t together and grow the fu*k up.


Triton - 5/2/06 at 12:04 PM


andyharding - 5/2/06 at 12:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO

What is your basic aim in keeping attacking one manufacturer? Are you trying to affect his trade and ultimately put him out of business?



Hit the nail on the head


scotty g - 5/2/06 at 12:53 PM

UTTERLY PATHETIC


Hellfire - 5/2/06 at 02:49 PM

If I owned the company GTS, I wouldn't be very happy that Andy had posted his observations on here without discussing it with me first. To correct the situation, I would send out one of my strengthened bonnets to arrive at Andy's within 24 hours together with a letter of explanation.

Of course there's nothing he can do about Andy's post and besides, it is a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion (however harsh). That's why Locostbuilders forum exists, to pass on knowledge and information to others and that's what Andy has done. Although it might seem otherwise at the moment, there is no hate campaign against GTS. So they've got a few disgruntled customers - so what! I'm sure all manufacturers have a few of them in their time. As others have said before, it's how GTS deals with them that is important.


Triton - 5/2/06 at 10:27 PM

The rubber button question keeps popping into my head......ummmm..wish I knew what I was talking about


Mark Allanson - 5/2/06 at 10:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scotty g
UTTERLY PATHETIC


You are so right, it's such a shame that so many builders have got caught up in his problems


Triton - 5/2/06 at 10:46 PM

What was that record Pete Burns did....


BKLOCO - 5/2/06 at 10:47 PM

Is there a shop that sell lives?
I think there are a few people on here who need to get one!
Sad so very very sad!


Mark Allanson - 5/2/06 at 10:49 PM

Do my lips look fat in this????


Avoneer - 5/2/06 at 11:18 PM

Reminds me of me & Tiger !!!

Anyway, I agree with everything Andy and Hellfire have said, but the only outcome I can see if re-enforcing the bonnet yourself Andy - not the best solution I know !

A foam rib coated in fibreglass should do the job.

Look on the bright side - have you ever ever ever seen a Tiger with a bonnet that fits (full stop) ???

Pat...


Syd Bridge - 6/2/06 at 10:59 AM

This sounds like cheap resin being used.

The cheap stuff has a Tg (Glass transition temperature. ie. the temp where it goes soft.) of near 40c. The better resins go up to 75-80c. I use a top poly resin for some moulds that go in the autoclave, at 80c. And are sometimes pushed over 100c!

Cheap stuff ~ £1.50/kg, top stuff ~£4/kg. Cheap parts, cheap resin, and not much of it, leads to panels that sag in the sun, without the help of a hot engine underneath.

Syd.


NS Dev - 6/2/06 at 11:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO
You whingers never cease to amaze me!!

You come on here moaning and rubbishing companies when you haven't even had the common decency to discuss your problem with the people concerned.

This forum is primarily for builders of Seven style kit or scratch build cars to exchange information to aid them in the construction of such cars.

I personally have nothing to do with GTS, short of owning one, but hate to see people knocking businesses unjustly.

What is your basic aim in keeping attacking one manufacturer? Are you trying to affect his trade and ultimately put him out of business? If you own one of his products this is not really a very smart move!

I would suggest that if you have problems with any manufacturer there are far more effective courses of action and redress open to you if you have GENUINE complaints than moaning and whinging on here.

In short…..Put up….or….Shut up.

Now I’ll wait for the attacks…..
.


Have to say I have had nothing to do with GTS, due to first impressions and all that!!!!............................... (not from comments on here but from initial enquiries and resultant "vague" answers).............

but I would like to add, what comes round goes around. If people are slagging a comapny on here, and not just one person but several, then maybe it is for a reason!!!!

How many people do you see slagging other companies???

How many criticisms of MNR do you see on here??? They are a small fledgling concern with just the same problems as anybody else, yet their service is IMPECCABLE! In fact it was far better than I could have wished for, even correcting my daft mistakes!

I have criticised Stuart Taylor Motorsport on here, regarding quality of grp etc, but then he piles it high and sells it cheap, yer gets what yer pays for and all that (and his bonnets, though realively poor in finish, have "anti sag" reinforcement in them!), despite my comments I have always been at pains to point out that from the start I was never put under any illusion as to what I was buying from him.

I guess the point that I am making is that we are not a big bunch of whingers on here. There are always one or two, but not the number you have in this case.....................

Look at AndyHarding's photo archive. His build is to a VERY high standard (not my choice of colour like!) and if he is unhappy with a part, it's for a reason!


BKLOCO - 6/2/06 at 01:35 PM

You don't seem understand... He may well have a very valid point....I make no judgement either way....AND NEITHER SHOULD OTHERS....The fact remains that If you have a problem with a component...whoever the supplier may be....The correct and decent thing to do is take your issue up with the supplier NOT come whinging on here with one side of a story....There are ALWAYS 2 sides...


Gav - 6/2/06 at 03:09 PM

I agree with you,
However is this forum not for sharing your experiences with other members of this forum?

If you had a really really bad time with a company for what ever reason would you not want to warn others of any potential problems they may or may not have if they were thinking about using the said company?


[Edited on 6/2/06 by Gav]


dozracing - 6/2/06 at 08:53 PM

Hi all,

Andy, why have you chosen not to call me or email me on this matter?

I can admit that we have a bad reputation on this site at present over delivery schedules. Problems we are trying hard to resolve, and we will succeed. What we have never had is a bad reputation for poor quality. Quite the opposite actually, maybe worth doing a search on this forum, and you'll find lots of messages saying how our quality is far and away better than the norm.

If we have a problem with Andy's bonnet then we need to address it. Mistakes do happen, everyone is human, and perhaps whoever made the bonnet has done something wrong. We can address this if this is the case, and if its a fundamental problem then we will need to address this also.

I find it hard to believe that there is a fundamental design problem with the bonnet as we have sold well over 100 items, and this is the first time anything like this has come to light. In fact my own car has one of the first bonnets ever made and has been used in anger, and doesn't exhibit any sagging.

We have cars running in Dubai in 40 degree heat with 180 bhp engines, running flat out for most of their life and so far we haven't had any reports of bonnet problems.

I have however printed off the posts on this thread and forwarded them to my lawyers. Andys comments regarding efforts to try and bring the company down are truely pathetic, and i think perhaps are slanderous, or at least show intent to slander. I'll let the lawyers work on that one. Luckily i have been able to track down the original order form so i have all of Andy's address details for them to get in contact with him.

My contact details are 07859005985 and 01474 707071 and darren@gtstuning.co.uk, so if you need to get in contact about any issues you can do so.


Triton - 6/2/06 at 09:29 PM

Dear dear and beggar me with a fish fork


Avoneer - 6/2/06 at 09:53 PM

Maybe Andy should have contacted his lawyers first and got them to talk to your lawyers.

I think he was just after opinions after posting on here before doing anything else.

Maybe you should ring him yourself Daz and sort out this matter between yourselves.

Threatening folk with lawyers isn't going to do you any favours at all, especially with your customer service reputation as it is.

You say Andy should have contacted you first, and then threaten him with Lawyers rather than contacting him yourself - isn't that a contradiction???

Pat...


Triton - 6/2/06 at 09:58 PM

Why Thank you Pat....then there is all that guff from a week or so ago aimed at Moi


andyharding - 6/2/06 at 10:00 PM

Darren, I never made contact with you because:

a) I did not think that you would be be willing to do anything about it. Your terms and conditions clearly state that there is no warranty:-

<quote>
No claims, representations or warranties, whether expressed or implied, are made by GTS TUNING as to the safety, reliability, durability and performance of any of GTS Tuning's components.
</quote>

b) After the shocking service you have given me in the past I have absolutely no desire at all to ever deal with you or your company again.

The bad customer service you have given me and not being very impressed with your products quality has led to my belief that your company is a joke and not worth dealing with. However, I'm a big enough man to admit when I've been wrong about something. Here's your chance to put your mistakes right and if you do so I'll publically fame you instead of shaming you.

quote:
Originally posted by dozracing
Hi all,

Andy, why have you chosen not to call me or email me on this matter?

I can admit that we have a bad reputation on this site at present over delivery schedules. Problems we are trying hard to resolve, and we will succeed. What we have never had is a bad reputation for poor quality. Quite the opposite actually, maybe worth doing a search on this forum, and you'll find lots of messages saying how our quality is far and away better than the norm.

If we have a problem with Andy's bonnet then we need to address it. Mistakes do happen, everyone is human, and perhaps whoever made the bonnet has done something wrong. We can address this if this is the case, and if its a fundamental problem then we will need to address this also.

I find it hard to believe that there is a fundamental design problem with the bonnet as we have sold well over 100 items, and this is the first time anything like this has come to light. In fact my own car has one of the first bonnets ever made and has been used in anger, and doesn't exhibit any sagging.

We have cars running in Dubai in 40 degree heat with 180 bhp engines, running flat out for most of their life and so far we haven't had any reports of bonnet problems.

I have however printed off the posts on this thread and forwarded them to my lawyers. Andys comments regarding efforts to try and bring the company down are truely pathetic, and i think perhaps are slanderous, or at least show intent to slander. I'll let the lawyers work on that one. Luckily i have been able to track down the original order form so i have all of Andy's address details for them to get in contact with him.

My contact details are 07859005985 and 01474 707071 and darren@gtstuning.co.uk, so if you need to get in contact about any issues you can do so.


Avoneer - 6/2/06 at 10:07 PM

Sorry Triton - lost you there ???


flak monkey - 6/2/06 at 10:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer
Sorry Triton - lost you there ???


That would be due to a thread I deleted as it got silly and was turning into a(nother) slagging match. It was a couple of emails that Darren asked me to post on the forum, so I did...

David


Triton - 6/2/06 at 10:16 PM

Not fussed really as it makes me giggle but somebody else was a tad miffed


Avoneer - 6/2/06 at 11:17 PM



I'm on Andys side all the way with this one.

I had very similar dealings with Tiger (as anyone that knows me can tell you) and received a very personally abusive letter from Jim.

That is not how you do business and I hope I killed sales of the Avon as I originally tried to help, but Tiger did not want to listen.

I may even posts the letters one day for a laugh.

These companies wouldn't be around if it wasn't for us lot.

Pat...


Triton - 6/2/06 at 11:33 PM

Pat,
You are spot on mate...

Mark


NS Dev - 7/2/06 at 12:56 AM

NOT AIMED AT ANYBODY ON HERE DIRECTLY!!!!!!!!

round and round we go, simple answer, go though the manufacturers sections on here and read the comments.............................then make your own mind up

as I said in a previous post, there will always be a few whingers, but I refuse to believe that they all gravitate towards one particular supplier.


dozracing - 7/2/06 at 06:13 AM

Andy,

As has been said before, the warranty on the website, is an all encompassing statement as a first line of defence should anything cataclismic happen. It does not effect your right to highlight a problem to me, and ask whether i'm prepared to do anything about it.

If you don't give me the option to sort your problems out then how can i ever sort out the customer service issues?

I have done nothing that deserves out and out vindictiveness, and comments that individuals are going out of their way to ruin my business can not be tolerated.

Isn't it funny that one of the posts in the thread says what a high level of build quality Andys car has, and its covered in my products!

[Edited on 7/2/06 by dozracing]


Avoneer - 7/2/06 at 05:20 PM

So what's the morral here - If you have a problem with a GTS part, don't ask all the knowledgeable folk on here that have helped you with every aspect of your build so far as if you do, GTS will threaten you with Legal action ???

Pat...


RichieC - 7/2/06 at 05:57 PM

I think a company have in one statement by threatening legal action, disuaded more peeps from buying from them than any number of disgruntled customers comments.


[Edited on 7/2/06 by RichieC]


Avoneer - 7/2/06 at 06:38 PM

Seen as my car has been built by comittee (every part from opinions here), if it all goes wrong, I'm suing everyone on this forum.

I'll talk to my people and get them to talk to other people and all that.

Pat


dozracing - 7/2/06 at 08:07 PM

Pat,

The point is don't come on this website with out and out vindictiveness in mind, and state that you will do what ever in your power to ruin my business.

Andy hasn't come on here to ask advice, he came on here and made a statement about the bonnet and its function and then proceeded to admit that he was out to do my business harm in retaliation. This is unaccetable in my book.

Andy has been big enough to admit that was out of order on this point.

The fact still remains that if he or anyone has a problem they should come to me to address it. Not make statements on here without giving me the oppotunity to correct any mistakes made.

You very much overate the importance of this website to overall sales in this market. The number of people who contribute to this site represents a tiny fraction of the buying market.

If you were to review every negative post made on here with regards to GTS you will find that it is a tiny fraction of the people who have ever bought from us, in fact its a tiny fraction of the number of orders we currently have in process. I'm big enough to admit we are not perfect and we are working on fixing our problems, but, we get it right far, far more times than we get it wrong.

Turnover so far this year was three times that of the previous year, we now have massive corporate clients worldwide and we are expanding and selling more month on month. Perhaps this is the reason we have more percieved problems than our competitors, perhaps we just have far more orders to slip up on.

Andy has still yet to contact me regarding this issue, but, i very much hope he does. I would love to get to the bottom of the problem, and have the oppotunity to show him how best to deal with issues like this.

Kind regards,
Darren


shortie - 8/2/06 at 08:19 AM

quote:
Andy has still yet to contact me regarding this issue, but, i very much hope he does. I would love to get to the bottom of the problem, and have the oppotunity to show him how best to deal with issues like this.



I think this sums all this up, if I was the manufacturer I think I would be keen to contact the customer and get it sorted not wait for him to contact me, nuff said!

[Edited on 8/2/06 by shortie]


BKLOCO - 8/2/06 at 11:57 AM

So shortie, Just to get this straight.... If you've got a problem with say a piece of Microsoft software ( and lets face it who hasn't) then you feel that after slagging of Microsoft, Bill Gates should ring you personally?

What planet do you live on?

[Edited on 8-2-06 by BKLOCO]


ned - 8/2/06 at 12:07 PM

BKLOCO,

I think you're taking what Shortie has said out of context somewhat.

To use your example, but in the correct context:
If Bill Gates was using the same forum where you posted a genuine glitch or bug in a microsoft product I'm sure one of his developers would be in contact to rectify the problem and produce a fix to rectify your instance of the problem and to stop it affecting other users of the product!

What planet do we live on?
- We live in the real world

Ned.

[Edited on 8/2/06 by ned]


BKLOCO - 8/2/06 at 12:23 PM

I'm not taking anything out of context.

The fact remains that if you have a problem with any product that you purchase you have certain statutory rights. Those rights are with the seller of the item. They are NOT with all and sundry on a web forum.

The decent and proper course of action is to take your problem up with te said supplier.
If you do not get satisfactory results then there again are proper channels to go through.

At no time can airing your vendettas in public be condoned especially when you have not followed the correct course of action in the first instance.


ned - 8/2/06 at 12:32 PM

Well, in that case I will have to agree to disagree with you.
I bear Andy's previously posted comments about his past dealings with GTS in mind in relation to your above remarks.

I won't be drawn into further bickering.

cheers,

Ned.


BKLOCO - 8/2/06 at 12:36 PM


Hellfire - 8/2/06 at 12:41 PM

Maybe Darren would have contacted Andy but doesn't have his contact details. Simple resolution would be for Andy to U2U his address to Darren who then sends out a replacement bonnet. Problem solved......... or is this too simple?


shortie - 8/2/06 at 12:47 PM

quote:
I'll let the lawyers work on that one. Luckily i have been able to track down the original order form so i have all of Andy's address details for them to get in contact with him.


As I said, nuff said.


Hellfire - 8/2/06 at 12:57 PM

Obviously too simple then....


Mark Allanson - 8/2/06 at 07:42 PM

I think we need an added feature on the site, perhaps we could call it Sue2Sue


andyace - 8/2/06 at 08:32 PM

We probably need another one mark called 'what the f**k has it got to do with you anyway'

Hows about we leave them to settle their own differences


shortie - 8/2/06 at 09:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by andyace
We probably need another one mark called 'what the f**k has it got to do with you anyway'


Exactly the same as it has got to do with you, me and everyone else


Mark Allanson - 8/2/06 at 09:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by andyace
We probably need another one mark called 'what the f**k has it got to do with you anyway'

Hows about we leave them to settle their own differences



On a slightly more serious tone (only just though), if they air their differences on a public forum they are, by the very definition, inviting responses.

I am sorry if my post was a little flipant, it may have even go a little too close to humour for comfort, perhaps I should have been a little pointed in my reply(seems to be the current norm), but life is too short, which is the reason for all this bother, folk want to get their cars finished!!!


NS Dev - 8/2/06 at 11:27 PM

It does seem that there is a refreshingly lighthearted attitude in the cornwall area.......................how cheap are houses down that way!??


robinbastd - 8/2/06 at 11:31 PM

Cheap and houses don't belong in the same sentence down here Nat.

If you want to live down here you'll have to make do with a dingaling or a mud hut.

You have to learn "our" lingo as well. trouble is, we invent it as we go along.



Ian,the tall Gulvaleer.


Triton - 8/2/06 at 11:33 PM

Hurdygurdy dingleberries are not what you imagine them to be either


NS Dev - 8/2/06 at 11:35 PM

Only word I really recall from your part of the world was drishing, the art of beating the 5hit out of something with a big hammer!!


Triton - 8/2/06 at 11:38 PM

Then there is that odd thing with parsnips and turnips......you have to ask the cornish blokes because it baffled me


NS Dev - 8/2/06 at 11:43 PM

well I'm certainly baffled now!


robinbastd - 8/2/06 at 11:46 PM

To us yokels a turnip is what you furreners would call a swede. You know the things - rock hard until they get hot,then they go all soggy.

Turnips on the other hand are called white turnips apart from in Camborne where they are Navarottes or something.


Mark Allanson - 8/2/06 at 11:47 PM

I've been baffled for 44 years, but my car is finished and I am happy.

Simple things make simple minds happy


Triton - 8/2/06 at 11:51 PM

I put it down to being that much closer to the moon, even the stars seem bigger down here.....weird but nice and relaxed is the best way i can describe settling in down here.


Triton - 8/2/06 at 11:53 PM

Roundabouts are amusing....you get a stand off...so numpty here just goes into "up north mode" and off you go


andyace - 9/2/06 at 08:48 AM

This site is turning into the mark and triton comedy show more and more each day. Taxi please..


splitrivet - 9/2/06 at 10:04 AM

I only wish I had the code book to find out what the f**k they were on about most of the time.
Cheers,
Bob


NS Dev - 9/2/06 at 10:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Roundabouts are amusing....you get a stand off...so numpty here just goes into "up north mode" and off you go


Heh heh!!! Up north mode!!!

Remember when my geordie mate from the deepest depths of Kielder Forest came down to college in shropshire (Harper Adams) he really didn't get roundabouts, did his driveing test without ever seeing one!

And he reckoned the only time he ever saw traffic lights was once every two weeks when he went into Hexham or Newcastle (30 miles away or 50 miles away!)


Hellfire - 9/2/06 at 12:42 PM

Looks like this threads been well and truly hijacked...............


andyace - 9/2/06 at 02:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Looks like this threads been well and truly hijacked...............


The way it was going this is not really a bad thing


shortie - 9/2/06 at 05:01 PM

good point, maybe we should all just take a chill pill and enjoy our cars (or enjoy building them)

Rich.


Confused but excited. - 9/2/06 at 07:04 PM

AMEN!

And relax.


Triton - 9/2/06 at 07:31 PM

Chill pill highly recommended, life is too short etc


robinbastd - 9/2/06 at 08:56 PM

Gulvalium. The chilliest chill pill.


scotty g - 11/2/06 at 09:30 AM

The reason property is so expensive in the South West is because all the bloody Londoners and other city folk move down and push up the prices so much that the locals can't afford to live in the village they grew up in.
Houses down there cost as much as they do over this end (Folkestone).


flak monkey - 11/2/06 at 09:45 AM

Same for us at home (Norfolk coast). All the people with second homes means that prices are rediculous....

David


Hellfire - 14/2/06 at 09:20 PM

You actually take your brass neck off then?

Just leave it alone. The threads been hijacked and died off and everyone apart from you seems to have taken a chill pill Exactly what are you trying to achieve by diggin it all back up again............

Phil


ned - 14/2/06 at 11:03 PM

mooooo

[hic!]



[Edited on 14/2/06 by ned]


Mix - 15/2/06 at 07:28 AM

Quote...I for one can state again MY service and kit from GTS tuning is perfect,

Whilst your satisfaction with the service you have received from GTS is encouraging I think I'd regard the kit as being a little less than perfect in view of the pictures you posted in your album of the front wishbone. Hope you get it sorted soon.

Mick


Triton - 15/2/06 at 08:03 AM

The picture of the top wishbone looks to me like the centre tube is a tad out of alignment and perhaps not parallel to the pivot tubes.

But then I'm half asleep so maybe looking at it with my eyes closed

Mark


Triton - 16/2/06 at 07:04 PM

Don't want to be a kill joy but that wishbone is on the wrong way round...the offset of the bush is towards the rear of the car.