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falcor75

posted on 14/6/23 at 05:32 AM Reply With Quote
Rear engine bay/scuttle hot air evac?

I'm closing in on my first 500 km driven now and one thing I have noticed especially in the latest two weeks summer weather is that the hood just infront of the scuttle seems to become the hottest area due to the hot air being trapped there with no way out. I would like to see some examples of hot air evacuation and what you feel have done a difference on your car.




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nick205

posted on 14/6/23 at 08:37 AM Reply With Quote
Any chance of adding some louvres across the top rear of the bonnet/scuttle area so the heat can escape?

Appreciate it looks to be Alloy bodywork. Might be a case of cutting some apetures and fitting ready made louvres.

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adampage

posted on 14/6/23 at 09:09 AM Reply With Quote
Cool looking car!

And a volvo engine too?!

I think we need to see some photos of the engine bay.... Then I'd agree with either louvres or nicely swaged holes in the aluminium could look pretty smart, either along the top back edge of the hood/bonnet, or maybe some at the side if you don't want them so visible on top?

Looks great though.....

Good luck!
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falcor75

posted on 14/6/23 at 10:12 AM Reply With Quote
There is a build thread in that section of the forum

Louvres would have to be drained somehow as I have a few fuseboxes below that section of the hood. My first choice would be some vents just ahead of the side repeaters but I dont know how effective that would be since its not the hottest part of the engine bay but I guess getting some circulation would be better than none.

(edit, the side repeaters ar ethe small dots below/infront of the mirrors)

[Edited on 1 by falcor75]

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adampage

posted on 14/6/23 at 10:29 AM Reply With Quote
Lovely work

Oh yeah, i thought it looked familiar, looks great!
Maybe on the side is your answer then, as you say about electrics up high that you want to keep dry.

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falcor75

posted on 14/6/23 at 10:58 AM Reply With Quote


Here is a photo of the engine bay. My idea would place the vents between the expansion tank and black ECU box on the righthand side and just rear of the airfilter on the lefthand side. Aslong as I can confirm I have good airflow over the sidepanels in that area it should be effective to draw hot air out and get some circulation going in the rear area of the engine bay.

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adithorp

posted on 14/6/23 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
When you say "due to the hot air being trapped there with no way out." does that mean you have a full floor? If not most air will be exiting that way; though heat rising will cause the bonnet to trap it when stationary or going slow.

If you have a floor you need to make some provision for air to escape at the rear.
What appear to be side vents (?) might be ineffective if they're in dirty air near the wheels. Moving or extending them backwards might help.
Other than that, top vents...

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pigeondave

posted on 14/6/23 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote
From the pic it doesn't look like you have a full floor.

I'd try adding a floor using correx sheets as a quick temporary measure.
I'd try covering from the nose to in front of the engine and then maybe cut it shorter and shorter. To see if it sucks out the air.

What you're looking to do is get a (big as possible) pressure differential between the engine bay and the underside of the floor.
If you leave a gap its like blowing across the top of a bottle.

Check out some if the Julian Edgar stuff on youtube and the net
https://youtu.be/LglaWRbM3dQ

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Schrodinger

posted on 14/6/23 at 02:05 PM Reply With Quote
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I had a vent added to my Stylus( see above pic) to get rid of excess heat and it works very well at keeping temps down.





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SteveWalker

posted on 14/6/23 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
From the photo of the engine bay, it looks like you could add a vent to the top rear of the bonnet, add a small lip around the top of the pedal box to catch water that comes through it and a drain pipe to under the car.
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falcor75

posted on 15/6/23 at 04:16 AM Reply With Quote


I dont think venting downwards will do much since the indicated area is a box with the only open side towards the front of the car. After a drive the metal above the engine (apart from the exhaust) is noticably cooler than the area further back.

Its either out the top or out the sides to get som circulation in that area. Since I am in the process of adding a short windscreen I guess the top will become a higher pressure zone which in that case really only leaves the sides.

I will steal som yarn from the Mrs and do some testing this weekend.

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JAG

posted on 15/6/23 at 11:59 AM Reply With Quote
quote:

I will steal some yarn from the Mrs and do some testing this weekend



I would be very interested to see some pictures of this testing - please

I'm going to add a bonnet bulge to my car soon (I raised my engine a little) and I'm thinking of opening up the rearward edge to provide a vent. However it will be within 30-40cm of the bottom of my windscreen sooooo





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nick205

posted on 15/6/23 at 03:07 PM Reply With Quote
Another thought - have you got the exhaust manifold in the engine bay covered in heat wrap?

That may help reduce engine bay temperatures even before you add any venting.

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falcor75

posted on 16/6/23 at 04:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Another thought - have you got the exhaust manifold in the engine bay covered in heat wrap?

That may help reduce engine bay temperatures even before you add any venting.


I havnt, so thats a good idea. Might do that during the summer vacation.


We went out last night to get some video of the air flow. The topside of the hood is pretty good as expected but the side is a bit more erratic, probably turbulence from the front wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slXdUBA9g2s&t=1s

[Edited on 1 by falcor75]

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JAG

posted on 16/6/23 at 01:21 PM Reply With Quote
I noticed, in the video, that the rear of your bonnet bulge isn't sealed to the bonnet.

Could you open that a little more and use that to remove hot air?

So allow the hot air out and thereby prevent the hot air from travelling to the rear of the engine bay and accumulating ahead of the bulkhead?





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falcor75

posted on 19/6/23 at 04:40 AM Reply With Quote
Well the plan is to eventually close the end of the bulge up but as the car is new and the hood comes on and off alot its proven to be a usefull grab handle for the time being.
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40inches

posted on 19/6/23 at 09:53 AM Reply With Quote
I vented the back of the bonnet, it makes a huge difference to under bonnet temperature. I block them off in the winter and it keeps my feet warm
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JAG

posted on 20/6/23 at 08:21 AM Reply With Quote
40inches - your vents are very close to the base of the windscreen.

Can you give us an idea of how close? It looks like 250-300mm?





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