billy
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| posted on 11/4/05 at 08:21 PM |
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respray time
Hi all, i want to give my dutton a re-spray and need to know what the best way of doing it is, is the low pressure high volume sprayers you can get in
macro anygood???? or is it best to get a compressor and paint gun like the norm. anybody help????? cheers
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 11/4/05 at 08:43 PM |
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Billy, HVLP guns need at least 17cfm to work properly, when they say High Volume, they mean it.
You should be able to get a devilbis JGA or the gravity version of the same gun (even better) off ebay very cheaply these days as no bodyshops use
them anymore, and millions were made. They are about the best guns ever made for standard air consumption guns.
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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billy
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| posted on 11/4/05 at 08:49 PM |
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so mark, do you recomend getting a hvlp gun then?? or do they give bad results...... i dont have a compressor cheers
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 11/4/05 at 09:17 PM |
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We use HVLP's at work, I think you must be talking about something else as they are compressor driven. You can use a HVLP gun, but you need a
seriously big compressor to run it, a piston one will be on the limits, a rotary screw one will be fine (but cost thousands)
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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billy
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| posted on 11/4/05 at 09:23 PM |
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Mark, i mean the electric ones, like made by powerdevil, etc. cheap and cheerfull
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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greggors84
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| posted on 11/4/05 at 10:56 PM |
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You can pick up small compressors for cheap these days. They normally come with a few accesories, one being a gravity fed spray gun. I think Lidl or
Netto had them for £60 the other week. Will probably be enough for spraying, but not sure how great the guns are.
Nissan use devilbiss robots on the paint part of the production line up at the plant in sunderland. If i cant get decent results with the spray gun
ive got i may look at getting a devilbiss one off ebay.
[Edited on 11/4/05 by greggors84]
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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Peteff
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 12:25 AM |
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HVLP kits
The ones like a turbine with their own dedicated gun are not bad tools, a bit like running them off a vacuum cleaner in reverse. I used to borrow one
years ago for bits and bobs. I painted a whole car with it once and it came out quite well. Also used a Wagner electric gun but not to any great
extent, they are alright for spraying creosote on fences.I got a decent low pressure gravity feed gun for £23 and it gets used for everything these
days. edit:- buying an expensive gun won't make you a better painter.
[Edited on 12/4/05 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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niceperson709
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 03:26 AM |
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It odes not matter so much wg\hat you use to spray a car with if your preperation is not done properly any imperfection on a car may not even be
noticed when its finish is old and tatty but as soon as you go to put on some paint it stands out like a dogs danglies . Thre will be some books on
painting cars in your library or tecnical book shop do some research first because it is very easy to spend a lot of cash on gear and still end up
with a less than wonderfull finish . I have painted a few cars over the years with some crappy gear and it can turn out OK but a lot of the skill is
in understanding how the paint goes on from the gun so what ever you get practice on some other things before you try the car . Keep the gun moving
and try to keep your distance from the job consistant and don't try to put your pint on to thickly or you may end up with runs .
and that will give YOU the Runs 
Best wishes
Iain
Oh one more thing if you can only afford a small compressor you can make it work better by increasing the storage . I have used a large out of date
empty gas bottle and after removing the stop cock found that common plumbing adaptors enabled it to be hooked into the compressor .system.
Best wishes IAIN
life is not the rehearsal , it's the show so don't sit there thinking about it DO IT NOW
http://iainseven.wordpress.com/
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 13/4/05 at 08:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by billy
Mark, i mean the electric ones, like made by powerdevil, etc. cheap and cheerfull
Ideal for staining wood or for insecticide, not for the car
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scutter
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| posted on 13/4/05 at 09:19 PM |
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Sorry to hijack this thread,
But can anyone recommend a good wax and grease remover to use before startig paint prep?
ATB Dan.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 13/4/05 at 10:11 PM |
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Prepaint spirit wipe, its made for the job, available at all good bodyshop suppliers. Don't forget your tack rags!!
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scutter
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| posted on 14/4/05 at 06:51 AM |
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Many thanks
Dan.
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billy
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| posted on 14/4/05 at 07:12 PM |
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Oh well thanks for the advise, i know its not gonna be a great finish but im gonna give it a try, in the true spirit of the locost builder mind you
its only a crappy old dutton so hand paint will prob do only got the thing to get into kitcar shows for free
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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andyps
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| posted on 15/4/05 at 12:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by billy
Mark, i mean the electric ones, like made by powerdevil, etc. cheap and cheerfull
I used one years ago to repaint the fron end of an Alfasud after replacing panels due to the tin worm they suffered (it was only about 5 years old!)
and achieved a reasonable result. It required quite a bit of rubbing down afterwards, to the extent that I practically had no fingerprints left, but
looked good.
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