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stevebubs

posted on 12/3/06 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
Colour Matching...

Does anyone know anywhere drivable from Reading that would be able to colour match against a piece of my car and the produce a pigment for polyested gelcoat that would match?

Only place I can come up with is West & Senior in Manchester which seems to be where CFS get their pigment from and they are far from local and I don't know if they'll deal directly with the public.

Anywhere between Birmingham, Bristol, Maidstone and Watford would be great, although the closer to Reading the better!!

Stephen

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RazMan

posted on 12/3/06 at 11:35 PM Reply With Quote
Not sure about your area Stephen but usually any paint factor will match to a sample. I have usually taken in a petrol flap or other small piece and it gets a perfect match - far better match and quality than the Duplicolor range.

*edit* just realised you want a gelcoat - duh!

[Edited on 12-3-06 by RazMan]





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chriscook

posted on 13/3/06 at 05:55 PM Reply With Quote
They will send you a colour chart of their cheaper 'Fascol' colopur range (they did to me anyway). They do also do a range of RAL pigments but apparantly they are a lot more expensive - but you could match to an RAL colour in your local paint shop and order the corresponding pigment.

Chris

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stevebubs

posted on 13/3/06 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chriscook
They will send you a colour chart of their cheaper 'Fascol' colopur range (they did to me anyway). They do also do a range of RAL pigments but apparantly they are a lot more expensive - but you could match to an RAL colour in your local paint shop and order the corresponding pigment.

Chris


Been there. Done that ....unfortunately, the colour has oxidised over the 12 years since it was applied so is no longer quite the same (1003 is the unoxidised RAL shade).

If you look in the picture below, the colour looks really close but when viewed close up, it's not so good.

Have sent a bit of the bonnet off to West & Senior (www.westsenior.co.uk) who advertise a colour match service so should know in a few days.

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Mark Allanson

posted on 13/3/06 at 09:07 PM Reply With Quote
RAL is not a type of paint, but a measurement of colour.





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stevebubs

posted on 14/3/06 at 12:18 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
RAL is not a type of paint, but a measurement of colour.


?? I didn't read any of the above as contradicting this....

Anyhow - just as an aside, I'm looking for a colour match as I need to do other bits of bodywork repair too.

Stephen

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Peteff

posted on 14/3/06 at 12:57 AM Reply With Quote
Looks like RAL 1021 to me.

Then again they all do You might be better off doing all your bodywork then getting it all painted, no need to worry about matching bits up then.





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stevebubs

posted on 14/3/06 at 01:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Then again they all do You might be better off doing all your bodywork then getting it all painted, no need to worry about matching bits up then.


Definitely *not* 1021!!! Much more yellowy-orange - 99% sure it was RAL 1003 10 years ago... oxidiation is a bitch!!

Complete repaint is possible, and probably on the cards in the future. For now, however, I'd like to get it as close as possible.

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Hugh Paterson

posted on 14/3/06 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
Will have a decko at my colour charts when I get into workshop today, but as mentioned easier to flat it back and spray! You could also try
and cut the old grp surface back with a crystic t-cut as used to lift the shine on grp boat surfaces when they get old and tatty. You got a polishing mop?
Shug.

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stevebubs

posted on 14/3/06 at 09:44 AM Reply With Quote
Shine isn't an issue. It's the oxidation of the gelcoat that has caused it to change colour a little.

Stephen

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stevebubs

posted on 15/3/06 at 10:51 AM Reply With Quote
Spoke to West & Senior this morning. They've receive the sample of bodywork I sent them but it's probably gonna be next week before they can get back to me

[Edited on 15/3/06 by stevebubs]

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Mark Allanson

posted on 15/3/06 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
RAL is not a type of paint, but a measurement of colour.


?? I didn't read any of the above as contradicting this....

Anyhow - just as an aside, I'm looking for a colour match as I need to do other bits of bodywork repair too.

Stephen


It was mentioned that RAL colours were more expensive than others.

Any bodyshop should have colour chips covering almost any colour from any manufacturer, and RAL chips as these tend to be used by commercial vehicle painters.





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stevebubs

posted on 15/3/06 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
RAL is not a type of paint, but a measurement of colour.


?? I didn't read any of the above as contradicting this....




It was mentioned that RAL colours were more expensive than others.




Ahh....for gelcoat pigment, however, (according to lady at West & Senior anyhow) the colour composition can determine the price.

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chriscook

posted on 15/3/06 at 11:07 PM Reply With Quote
I had assumed the RAL colours were more expensive because they had to be controlled better. Whereas the cheap Fascol range proobably had a bit more variation to them.
Apologies if i confused anyone into thinking RAL was a type of paint -i know its not but perhaps i could have phrased it better.

[Edited on 15/3/06 by chriscook]

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