RazMan
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 07:43 AM |
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Another paint question
I was originally intending to paint my car in 2 pack metallic blue but as I want to be able to repair the inevitable stone chips & minor mods
myself in the future, a solid colour might be a better idea as it saves having to paint a complete panel.
The question is what type of paint is my best bet? - I want to be able to use aerosol touch-up cans in the future so it has to be something compatible
(so base coat & laquer is presumeably out)
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 07:56 AM |
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well soon we will all have to use water based paint !
so i dont know if you will be able to use celly or snyth
will they still sell it ?
i went silly and bought 10ltr black,purple,blue and thinners just in case(so for a while every car i do will be ???)
but im not in the painting game so wouldnt know
as for spray cans not sure whats going to happen
thats what wil told me last week !
as for your question sorry carnt help you !
im sure what ive just said some one will slag me and put me right !
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RazMan
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 08:03 AM |
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Yep, I heard that new legislation was about to happen - hence my question. Solvent based paint is obviously much easier to match in touch-up but as I
understand it, the water based stuff will be very similar to 2 pack - colour base and laquer top coat.
It's all very bewildering 
Does anyone know when the new rules come into force?
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 08:08 AM |
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I'd guess that a good plan would be to pick a colour seen on a fairly common 'real' car. That would make it easier to match up at a
later date.
And you're right about any metallics - in my experience a good paint shop can match the base colour, but they never get the metallic
sheen/flake/whatever-it's-called to match properly. It always looks brighter, more sparkly, or just plain different.
David
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DarrenW
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 08:41 AM |
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I got a quote to paint mine a couple of months back. The lad did say he would like to do it before October as the paint will be harder to get hold of.
He also mentioned something about the modern paints needing an oven but i dont know if this is for all of them or just the pro bodyshop stuff. I know
of another lad who is a sprayer by trade who has just installed a booth and oven so i have a 'orrible feeling that the diy sprayer might have
some problems soon.
As Mark A has said on numerous occasions the current 2 packs are very very nasty. For the sake of a few hundred quid its not worth risking your
health.
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birdii
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 09:08 AM |
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Practical Classics has a 3 page article about paint this month. Celly is out from January 07 apart from a few classic restorers who might be able to
get a license to use it if they can prove the car requires celly for its original look.
The only alternative for DIY will be waterbased paint. I think the problem is not so much needing an oven, but getting the required airflow through
the garage or even spray booth for the paint to dry. Apparantly the bodyshops have struggled to get this right. Anyway practical classics suggest that
DIY jobs are still perfectly do-able with waterbased paint. You will need to setup some fans in the garage to help things dry as they should. I think
on there little comparison chart the waterbased was easier to apply and better results, the only downside was price. Oh and they also say that a
carbon filter maks is adequate for the DIY sprayer.
As you can probably tell i have been checking this situation out this week after a cominging together on Monday with a tyre wall at snetterton in my
205! Unfortunately it isn't a regular old 205, it was one of the last GTi's made and really was in excellent condition. Oh well, bit of
panel beating and paint then she'l be good again! I don't know if i should rush out and get a big tin of celly, or look at trying the
waterbased stuff. Tough choice, you know where you stand with good old celly though. 2 Pack will be out soon aswell if i have understood the plans
correctly, that won't bother us diyers anyway.
Dan
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 09:35 AM |
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do go out and buy loads of paint today save it for the future !!!
like i did ! 
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chriscook
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| posted on 29/9/06 at 06:20 PM |
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I got some armourfend type stuff fitted to the front of my Phoenix and it's great stuff. Was better than I expected when I picked it up and it
can be polished with normal car polish and looks even better now. I got it done at a local sticker/sign place who do a lot of vehicles including loads
of race cars. To buy off the roll it is about £18/m in 0.5m width and about the same again to get it fitted by them - it doesn't look easy to do
well on large curvy areas.
Doesn't help for mods of course but ideal for stone chips.
Chris
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