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RK

posted on 3/9/07 at 11:54 PM Reply With Quote
Cutting ally

I made a diffuser today. I made an opening for the bottom differential mount - which will also allow drainage as a bonus.

I used the following:
1. drill
2. dremel tool - several bits were destroyed
3. snippers

The snips were useless! I couldn't cut anything straight, and the alu just bent all over the place, which I had to hammer out using a hammer and bits of wood. What on earth do people do?

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Hellfire

posted on 4/9/07 at 12:06 AM Reply With Quote
Jigsaw, with fine toothed blade 2-3 teeth in contact with metal thickness - use fast speed, light feed and keep parafin or light oil well fed onto the blade to stop aluminium build up on cutting edges making it appear blunt.

If this happens knock off the build up on the individual teeth and start again.

Steve

[Edited on 4-9-07 by Hellfire]






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RK

posted on 4/9/07 at 12:16 AM Reply With Quote
Thank you! I'll know for when I make the front side panels. All the shops were closed today (Labour Day - there is no Conservative or Green Day here, but I digress) so I couldn't get a blade anyways.
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daviep

posted on 4/9/07 at 01:13 AM Reply With Quote
Good quality carbide burrs should just eat alloy.

Snips should be not too much work if they are sharp

Nibbler is also very good.

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James

posted on 4/9/07 at 07:06 AM Reply With Quote
I used some Snap On(?) snips borrowed from another member hear.... cut miles of ali and they were fantastic.

I also used a grinder with a 1mm blade a lot for cutting 'internal' shaped. Very effective, but did need filing/sanding after to clean up.

Lots of horror stories of blades exploding so wear goggles, gloves, ear defenders etc. etc!

Cheers,
James





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RazMan

posted on 4/9/07 at 07:07 AM Reply With Quote
Use a nibbler - no distortion and really easy as long as you lubricate with WD40. Failing that, a jigsaw will do it fairly well.





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Raz

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niceperson709

posted on 4/9/07 at 07:13 AM Reply With Quote
As others have said a good pair of snips can do wonders but you have to keep the cutting jaws square to the sheet. But one of the better ways that I have used is the trusty angle grinder with one of those very thin cutting blades. But the way to ensure a straight cut is to clamp some steel strap along your cut line, this provides a good guide for the blade. Half depth cuts will also ensure a neat fold should you want that. Eye and ear protection is essential though
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procomp

posted on 4/9/07 at 07:13 AM Reply With Quote
Hi for snippers ect. The best are from WIZZ.

Proper American aviation snips. Come as a set of 3 for cutting straight- left- right.

Quality is verry good. Last set have lasted me 7 years daily use still use them for roughing out sheet and brought a new set for fine finish work.

Cheers matt

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nick205

posted on 4/9/07 at 07:47 AM Reply With Quote
I did all my ally cutting with hand nibblers. It takes a little time and you need to make sure your cutting with the good side down and keep the nibbler jaws lightly oiled, but the finish is very good and straight.

A reasonable set of nibblers should set you back around £15 and last for a very long time if looked after.

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Phil.J

posted on 4/9/07 at 07:54 AM Reply With Quote
For something like a diffuser, it is worth considering making a buck out of melamine faced board and hardboard and moulding one out of fibreglass. If it's for bling then make it shiny side up, but if you want it to work make it shiny side down and don't cut any holes in it!
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02GF74

posted on 4/9/07 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
for straigh edges my method now is to use a craft knife.

Run the blade several trimes next to a rule and if it is think enough, 0.5 mm, then you can cut right trhough. For thicker sheet fold it along the score line several times untils it fatigues and breaks.

You need to be careful with the blade and run it along the rule so that if it slips, it marks the piece you are cutting off.

Ideally if you can put the cit you are cutting off in a vice, then start the folding process, that is going to be better.

I cannot remember but I have used this to cut 4 mm chequer plate - with minial edge distortion.

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Davey D

posted on 4/9/07 at 09:30 AM Reply With Quote
My wepaon of choice is a 9" grinder with a cutting disk.. makes very light work of it
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Confused but excited.

posted on 4/9/07 at 02:26 PM Reply With Quote
I found the that down side of using snips for a long time is the tendonitis in the wrist and those bloody painful hydrocortisone injections afterwards.

Power tools every time.

Must be my newness wearing off!





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caber

posted on 4/9/07 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
Air shears are great for long straight cuts but crap at corners. Jigsaw works OK particularly if you back thin sheet with old chipboard or mdf and cut both at the same time.

Caber

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andylancaster3000

posted on 4/9/07 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
I'm suprised no one has suggested floor/bench mounted shears as shown in the link.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bench-Shears-8-inch-x-1-4-inch_W0QQitemZ300140492416QQihZ020QQcategoryZ64819QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

About the same price as a good nibbler and far the easiest way to cut long straight runs. Curves are also possible. Once marked out we cut most of our side panels out in a matter of about a minute or two! The edge just then needs a de-burring tool run along it and it's done.

They can be had second hand and IMHO almost a must for a car builder.

HTH
Andy

[Edited on 4/9/07 by andylancaster3000]

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Black Cat

posted on 4/9/07 at 09:05 PM Reply With Quote
The best way to cut ali sheet metal is with a band saw. It doesn't distort the ali and it leaves a very clean cut. If you then need to tidy up the edge, just clamped it between two pieces of wood and take a belt sander to it and sand it down to a dead straight line, perfect finish every time.

steve

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RK

posted on 4/9/07 at 10:29 PM Reply With Quote
Thank you again for all your helpful suggestions. As for making it out of fibreglass - yeah, right;I am having quite enough trouble with aluminum and steel thank you!! And the rest of the car is way beyond my abilities, but alas, it's worth nothing near what I have into it, so I press on...
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