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Headlights and possibly a stupid question
Ninehigh - 8/2/09 at 08:04 AM

I really should know this but it's confused me like offside and nearside...

Ok so headlights have main beam, dipped beam, sidelights and high beam, but there's only 3 settings...

Which is which? High beam and sidelights I know about but are the others just different terms for the standard lights you use when it's dark?


clairetoo - 8/2/09 at 08:09 AM

Um...........on mine main beam and high beam are the same ? So only three `settings` needed ?


Ninehigh - 8/2/09 at 08:15 AM

I knew some were the same but I thought main beam was the one you'd use the most (hence "main" beam)

This is something I'm going to get written down because iirc you're supposed to use main beam all the time according to the highway code, even on lit streets (unless someone's coming the other way of course)


ReMan - 8/2/09 at 08:48 AM

Theres more reference to using dipped beam in the current on-lineHC http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070302
Interestingly I could'nt find any reference to using side lights


Ninehigh - 8/2/09 at 08:58 AM

quote:
The Government sez
You MUST

* ensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit between sunset and sunrise
* use headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street lighting.


So if there's street lighting using sidelights only is legal?


Macbeast - 8/2/09 at 08:59 AM

No, you are supposed to use AT LEAST dipped beam when moving, even in well- lit streets.

You use main beam when there is no danger of blinding oncoming traffic, ie probably not in town.

Common sense really

Highway Code -

" You should also ..
Use dipped headlights, or dim-dipped if fitted, at night in built up areas and in dull daytime weather, to ensure that you can be seen "



[Edited on 8/2/09 by Macbeast]


ReMan - 8/2/09 at 09:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
The Government sez
You MUST

* ensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit between sunset and sunrise
* use headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street lighting.


So if there's street lighting using sidelights only is legal?



I agree, looking at that agin it does, by deduction imply that!
But it also states
"You should also

use dipped headlights, or dim-dip if fitted, at night in built-up areas and in dull daytime weather, to ensure that you can be seen "
so that probably covers the above

Either way you only need 3 positions


Ninehigh - 8/2/09 at 09:21 AM

Well yeah I know there's 3 positions, but there's about 6 names!

1. Sidelights
2. Main Beam
3. High Beam

Then there's dipped, dim dip (new one) and now main beam is actually what I'd call high beam...

Went to get a new rear light lens once, the guy said "Offside or nearside?"

I told him "The left one..."


Peteff - 8/2/09 at 10:08 AM

1-side/position lights
2-dip beam
3-main/high beam

Dim dip is something you don't need to worry about it just lowers the voltage to the dip beam when you are driving instead of using sidelights

No matter what you call them these are all you have in your headlights, some don't have sidelights in there and need a separate unit.

Near side-the side near the kerb when you are with the flow of traffic
Off side-the side not near the kerb

Now stop complicating things and get on with it


Ninehigh - 8/2/09 at 10:10 AM

Brilliant that's sorted that out.

Now, port and starboard....


David Jenkins - 8/2/09 at 10:45 AM

Starboard - where the steering board (ancient rudder) goes - almost always on the right of the ship, facing forwards.

Port - as you don't want to bang the steering board on the jetty, you put the other side into the port.


russbost - 8/2/09 at 10:54 AM

Port was originally Larboard - they changed it as it was easy to confuse with starboard.

When I recently insured the Furore F1 the guy asked is it left or right hand drive - I stayed quiet for a moment, then he said Ah! I see .............. He had my website up on his computer at the time!


tomblyth - 8/2/09 at 11:18 AM

Port is Red and has the same number of letters as Left

Starboard is Green and has the same number of letters as Right


when viewed facing forward from the driving seat!


Ninehigh - 8/2/09 at 11:25 AM

I always thought starboard had something to do with night time navigation... And I never knew ships were different colours on different sides


cloudy - 8/2/09 at 01:21 PM

only the nav lights are


dogwood - 8/2/09 at 02:46 PM

Near side = side nearest the curb
Off side = side closest to centre line of road.
Side with the steering wheel

Unless you are driving a Right hand drive car in Europe.....

David


Port out Starboard home
Posh with a capital P.......

[Edited on 8/2/09 by dogwood]


Ninehigh - 8/2/09 at 02:57 PM

I've just remembered another one I've not heard since I was learning to drive: Inside and outside (lane). I'm guessing (nearly 12 years later) that corresponds to nearside and offside...

Don't ever teach anyone to drive from scratch


MikeR - 8/2/09 at 03:06 PM

I always remember it a strange way.

In olden times you always wanted to sail so that your cabin faced the land - gave you more to look at. Therefore rich people got cabins on one side of the ship out and the other side back..


This usually worked out to
Port
Out
Starboard
Home

hmmm, wonder where the expression POSH came from????

So i always think of someone sailing down African, Port must be to the left. Then Sailing back to Europe Starboard must be right.

I didn't say i remembered it a simple way


MikeRJ - 9/2/09 at 01:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by russbost
When I recently insured the Furore F1 the guy asked is it left or right hand drive - I stayed quiet for a moment, then he said Ah! I see .............. He had my website up on his computer at the time!


I could imagine that completely flummoxing many insurance companies, I bet their forms only have LHD or RHD


:{THC}:YosamiteSam - 10/2/09 at 11:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
I really should know this but it's confused me like offside and nearside...

Ok so headlights have main beam, dipped beam, sidelights and high beam, but there's only 3 settings...

Which is which? High beam and sidelights I know about but are the others just different terms for the standard lights you use when it's dark?



legally there are only 3 positions needed

side lights (or marker lights in effect)
dip beam (which is has a dipped pattern to the left in the uk -its like an arrow pattern higher on the left)
and main beam for high beam pattern (which will dazzle other users)

you can also have driving lights fitted too which can only be used at the same time as main beam - lots of people confuse this and use them all the fickin time - not that i want to shoot them tho - driving lights are not fog lights either - the pattern is a rounded beam like spot lights - fogs being oval and low to the deck to shine under the fog and not bounce a reflection back at you