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Earthing sensors - what's your solution
Hadders - 25/1/13 at 09:01 PM

I've done a search with no luck.

When you have a sensor such as a water temp sender in an alloy pipe joiner and you need to earth it what have you done? I'm sure LB members will have some ingenious solutions. So far i have a washer under the sensor and I'm trying to attach a spade terminal! what have you done?

PS. The washer is flat against the sensor housing, so screwing a small screw into the washer will not work. Ideas?


TIA

Ben


Ben_Copeland - 25/1/13 at 09:20 PM

Instead of spade terminal, why not use a ring terminal?


NigeEss - 25/1/13 at 09:21 PM

Strip a couple inches of insulation from some wire, form the bare wire into a loop the size
of the required washer and the fully solder the loop. Fit to sensor and it'll seal like a copper
washer with a nice wire to fut a spade on.


Hadders - 25/1/13 at 09:38 PM

I've tried ring terminals Ben but they all seem to be too small.


NigeEss - thanks that sounds worth a try.


big-vee-twin - 25/1/13 at 10:06 PM

Why not buy a proper alloy adapter with earthing dcrew there about 10 pounds on ebay 36mm Alloy Water Temperature Radiator Hose Sensor Adaptor Silver ASH | eBay


NigeEss - 25/1/13 at 10:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Why not buy a proper alloy adapter with earthing dcrew there about 10 pounds on ebay 36mm Alloy Water Temperature Radiator Hose Sensor Adaptor Silver ASH | eBay



Because my solution is "Locost"

That does look mighty pretty though


Hadders - 25/1/13 at 11:02 PM

Yeah. Looks great but unfortunately I already have one of those without the earth screw.

No doubt this is a stupid question, but i didn't think ali was a good conductor. I thought you needed steel to conduct well. As in connected directly to the sensor itself. I guess not from that link.

[Edited on 25/1/13 by Hadders]


NigeEss - 25/1/13 at 11:19 PM

Whilst ally is not high on the list of electrical conductivity it does conduct well enough for automotive applications.
If it didn't, then car manufacturers would not bolt earths to heads, gearboxes etc, all of which have sensors screwed
into them.


Hadders - 25/1/13 at 11:50 PM

Ah that makes sense. One less issues to deal with! Thanks for your help.


ashg - 26/1/13 at 12:47 AM

its a bit crude but shove a bit of wire between the ali tube and hose and wang the hose clip up as tight as you can. or just wrap the wire round the ali pipe and put a hose clip over the top of it.

the proper solution would be to replace the sender for a 2 pin version.

[Edited on 26/1/2013 by ashg]


907 - 26/1/13 at 06:19 AM

Make a tab washer from sheet with the tab the same size as a male spade.

Paul G


Ben_Copeland - 26/1/13 at 07:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Hadders
I've tried ring terminals Ben but they all seem to be too small.


NigeEss - thanks that sounds worth a try.


What size do you need?


big-vee-twin - 26/1/13 at 08:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by NigeEss
quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Why not buy a proper alloy adapter with earthing dcrew there about 10 pounds on ebay 36mm Alloy Water Temperature Radiator Hose Sensor Adaptor Silver ASH | eBay



Because my solution is "Locost"

That does look mighty pretty though



When it comes to the engine, reliability is more important than saving a few pounds, do the job right and you will not be breaking down 100miles from home


rusty nuts - 26/1/13 at 08:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
quote:
Originally posted by NigeEss
quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Why not buy a proper alloy adapter with earthing dcrew there about 10 pounds on ebay 36mm Alloy Water Temperature Radiator Hose Sensor Adaptor Silver ASH | eBay



Because my solution is "Locost"

That does look mighty pretty though



When it comes to the engine, reliability is more important than saving a few pounds, do the job right and you will not be breaking down 100miles from home


Seconded! Is the alloy adapter thick enough to drill and tap to take a securing screw for an earth terminal ? or do you know anyone that can Tig weld alloy to make a boss. All of the other suggestions apart from a twin terminal sensor are just building in unreliability


scudderfish - 26/1/13 at 09:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Why not buy a proper alloy adapter with earthing dcrew there about 10 pounds on ebay 36mm Alloy Water Temperature Radiator Hose Sensor Adaptor Silver ASH | eBay


Is that effectively earthing through the coolant? If it's sat in the middle of a rubber hose I can't see how else it has conductivity with the block.


MikeRJ - 26/1/13 at 09:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Why not buy a proper alloy adapter with earthing dcrew there about 10 pounds on ebay 36mm Alloy Water Temperature Radiator Hose Sensor Adaptor Silver ASH | eBay


Is that effectively earthing through the coolant? If it's sat in the middle of a rubber hose I can't see how else it has conductivity with the block.


It has a earthing screw so you can attach an earth wire properly via a ring terminal.

Jamming bits of wire under the sensor is not "Locost", it's simply a bodge. However, if you were feeling keen you could fabricate a washer with an integrated spade terminal out of e.g. copper.


omega 24 v6 - 26/1/13 at 11:19 AM

Whearthing tab from a steel wire armoured cable gland?? Any local electricians might be able to help you.
earth tab


scudderfish - 26/1/13 at 11:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Why not buy a proper alloy adapter with earthing dcrew there about 10 pounds on ebay 36mm Alloy Water Temperature Radiator Hose Sensor Adaptor Silver ASH | eBay


Is that effectively earthing through the coolant? If it's sat in the middle of a rubber hose I can't see how else it has conductivity with the block.


It has a earthing screw so you can attach an earth wire properly via a ring terminal.

Jamming bits of wire under the sensor is not "Locost", it's simply a bodge. However, if you were feeling keen you could fabricate a washer with an integrated spade terminal out of e.g. copper.


Yep, I'm being dense