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dblissett - 27/9/03 at 07:41 PM

i am thinking of buying a loom can anyone recomend one i have looked at robin hoods at £60 and premier wirings one at £100 why the big difference in price
i am ussing a sierra doner with a pinto
cheers dave blissett


bob - 27/9/03 at 08:03 PM

I've been plumbing in the premier loom and its nice and easy with good instructions,also a freephone 0800 number for help if needed.

I had one prob with my lights but turned out it was my fault and faulty relay,managed to get it all going so i'm happy and would recomend it.

You need to retain your engine wiring loom and battery leads.


dblissett - 27/9/03 at 08:08 PM

sounds like you get what you pay for
are you using the sierra controls
cheers dave


bob - 27/9/03 at 10:06 PM

Yep sierra steering column and stalks.

The premier loom comes with terminal conections and fuse box wired up too,the flasher relay conections are wired and the main beam dip beam relay holders are ready for either 83BG or 87BG switch gear.

Its a good product but as you say you pays your money,ask ian pearson about the robin hood loom for reference as i know he has fitted one to his locost with pinto engine.


jonti - 29/9/03 at 12:51 PM

Get the premire one..it'll save you more the £40 worth of hassle


Ben_Copeland - 29/9/03 at 05:31 PM

I'm making my own loom out of the donors loom, not difficult (touch wood)


jonti - 29/9/03 at 08:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
I'm making my own loom out of the donors loom, not difficult (touch wood)


I scratch buit one after foolishly buying the RHE 'Vicky Green' loom thinking it would save work...I ended up just using it as a source of wire.



[Edited on 29/9/03 by jonti]


Ben_Copeland - 29/9/03 at 08:34 PM

Your the man to ask lots of questions of then

I've just been looking at my MK1 Escort loom, and my sierra column loom and thinking.... bugger why does the escort loom NOT have a hazard switch/loom

Meaning i can't use that, might aswell make something out of a Sierra


RoadkillUK - 30/9/03 at 12:53 AM

I'm getting around to do the wiring pretty soon. I suggest using a switch for the hazard lights and get rid of the column mounted one as it looks too 'Sierra' anyway.

Just my opinion of course


Ben_Copeland - 30/9/03 at 07:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jonti
I scratch buit one after foolishly buying the RHE 'Vicky Green' loom thinking it would save work...I ended up just using it as a source of wire.


What was so wrong with it ??? Surely it must be ok, for them to sell it ?!?!


quote:
Originally posted by RoadkillUK
I'm getting around to do the wiring pretty soon. I suggest using a switch for the hazard lights and get rid of the column mounted one as it looks too 'Sierra' anyway.
Just my opinion of course


Might try that....


jonti - 30/9/03 at 08:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
quote:
Originally posted by jonti
I scratch buit one after foolishly buying the RHE 'Vicky Green' loom thinking it would save work...I ended up just using it as a source of wire.


What was so wrong with it ??? Surely it must be ok, for them to sell it ?!?!
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I suppose there's nothing intrinsically wrong with it, but its like most other things that RHE sell..it'll work eventually but it'll take a lot of fettling.

I found the instuctions confusing and were taking more time to interptret than making up my own schematic and I know others on this site have had similar problems.

Most lekky on a car as basic as a Locost is pretty straightforward ( juice, fuse , switch ,device, earth ) The most complicated bits are the ignition and charging circuits and you can lift them almost piecemeal from the donor.

As long as you fuse correctly and use the correct gauge wire you shold be ok.

Wots that burning smell ?

[Edited on 30/9/03 by jonti]


Ian Pearson - 30/9/03 at 09:56 AM

The loom I bought from Lolocost was made by Autosparks at least four years ago, prior to the introduction of the Vicki Green Loom. Unless the loom is supplied with the plugs for the steering column attached, a bit of "Fettling" will be required. Bob has first hand experience with Premier Wireing and their Sierra based loom, and has good things to say about them. It took me ages to marry up the steering column to my loom, and I rang Premier twice in desperation, as I thought of junking my loom and buying theirs. Twice they were too busy due to a forthcoming show and a holiday. I stuck to what I had, and now I'm pleased with the result. Looking back, it was easier than I anticipated.


wicket - 30/9/03 at 07:57 PM

Our loom came from Luego, comes complete with fuse box, cost about 9 months ago was £60. Comes with simple 1 page wire colour/function list but easy to follow and is designed for Sierra column switches. We have powered up complete loom and everything functioned correctly 1st time apart from the headlight flash function and that was due to missing earth return. Good value for money I would say.


Mike McKinstry - 2/10/03 at 10:09 PM

I too have V-G loom for sierra to pinto but have a no. of queries.Firstly according to diagram supplied the only relay required is flasher-is this right-can/do all lights run through switches o.k..Also some of the colours on my sierra loom do not tally with v-g loom.I will continue with what Ive got but could really benefit from a clearer diagram or the freehelp of an autospark in Suffolk!!!!!Mike.


Ian Pearson - 3/10/03 at 05:42 AM

Mike,

When I started trying to marry the loom to the Sierra column, I rang Autosparks regarding relays, and they seemed to think that the switchgear was up to running the headlights without relays. I've since installed relays for the headlights, radiator fan and heater. I've no experience with the V.G loom so all I can suggest is that you get a circuit tester, and suss out what the wires for each individual switch do. It's time consuming, but as Ford seem to use different colour wires at will, it may be your best option.

Good Luck!


Ben_Copeland - 3/10/03 at 06:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ian Pearson
but as Ford seem to use different colour wires at will, it may be your best option.



Oh crap


mad4x4 - 7/10/03 at 12:51 PM

I've just started to look at wiring.

Why buy a loom, I'm going to buy a load of terminals and a couple of drums of cable and build my own.

Tools required..... Multi Meter, 12v Tester, Crimp Pliers, Snips, and a bucket of ti-wraps, more P-clips.

If I wire it at least i'll know what all the wires are for.


Ben_Copeland - 7/10/03 at 02:32 PM

I can get a sierra loom for £5.....

it's gonna cost a damn site more to buy drums of cable and terminals......

Plus you get all the loom plugs you need, and all the colours you could ever want !

Then you can make your own loom out of that

I wouldn't go buy a new loom from a company tho


jonti - 8/10/03 at 02:06 PM

If I wire it at least i'll know what all the wires are for.





Absob 'loom' inlutely !
My sentiments exactly

Ben's right though...get an old loom and use that, ( not a f*ckin' VG one either !) Dont spend your hard earned ackers on new wire


Peteff - 8/10/03 at 05:18 PM

Volvo estates are a good source of long lengths if you find one and they use the usual range of colours so you could probably match them to what you already have.

yours, Pete.


Ben_Copeland - 8/10/03 at 05:24 PM

Ooooo time to look for an abandoned volvo estate


jonti - 9/10/03 at 03:39 PM

Trouble is, if you use a Volvo loom you'll never be able to turn the lights off !


ChrisW - 9/10/03 at 05:25 PM

The Escort mk4 loom I used went in a treat although I have customised it quite a lot now. Easiest bit of the build so far removing the redundant bits (wipers, heater, interior lights etc) and adding the injection loom. What I've done so far works (all the lighting and the start and charge bits).

Chris