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elitewiring

posted on 19/2/04 at 01:59 AM Reply With Quote
what you want from wiring loom.

i manufacture wiring looms, and i want some feedback to provide the products and service you all desperately want.
what items do you want incorporated into a wiring loom, eg. fuel cutout, stereo, safety cutout switch, heater!, front fog lights, etc etc. when replying please list your car and engine types. any help would greatly be received.

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Staple balls

posted on 19/2/04 at 09:05 AM Reply With Quote
decent instuctions.

y'know, well set out with good grammar.

and a few yards of spare cable in a few different colours.

loadsa heatshrink, convoluted tubing, P-clips, zipties.

and someone to do the work for me.

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Stu16v

posted on 19/2/04 at 07:09 PM Reply With Quote
May I suggest that the best solution for you and builders would be a two tier system of loom.

1. Basic loom. For people building bare minimum trackday cars/racers. The loom has nothing but the legal requirement as regards lighting, no provision for heater, wipers, stereo, front fog lamps, reverse lamp etc. Wiring to engine (temp/oil/alternator/ignition/leccy fan) is branched off separately in engine bay with plenty of spare so that it can be adapted for any engine choice. Fuel pump wiring can be intersected under dash to allow for igniton control/inertia cutoff/control by management ECU.

2. The 'works'. Loom designed similar to the above, but with all the frills-plus spare ign feeds. People can then make their own sub looms for radios, stuff like that.

My two penneth....

[Edited on 19/2/04 by Stu16v]





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Mark Allanson

posted on 19/2/04 at 08:01 PM Reply With Quote
Most of us can cope with the 'normal' circuits in a loom, perhaps you could supply sub circuits, hazards seem to give most of the grief looking by the recent posts. I have said before, that I have a 2.0 injection system, the loom comes from a ghia with 4 electric windows, a computer and the bulb warning system. Thinning that lot out is turning into a nightmare, if a loom was available to patch the engine loom into a standard loom, I would buy it like a shot - it would save me so much time and headscratching.





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JoelP

posted on 19/2/04 at 11:17 PM Reply With Quote
my recommendation would be 'plug and go seperates', ie a fuse/relay/hazard box with one row of connectors and instructions as to what is what, a choice of standard switch gear, a few spare outputs and maybe lights/trailer wire as seperates. engine stuff normally comes with the donor.

and the dash of course...

[Edited on 19/2/04 by JoelP]






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ray.h.

posted on 21/2/04 at 12:13 AM Reply With Quote
I go along with the plug and go seperates that all plug in to a central loom so that if you use a different main componant ie column switches, you could just specify which fly leads you need to link central loom to switch gear.
I know this would make the central loom very complex but we should never have to touch that,and the bit we do would only be a few spade connectors for lights fuel pumps etc....Just my little rant and rave,i hate wiring especialy when my sierra manual has 41 pages of wiring diagrams(mostly redundant)

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Hellfire

posted on 21/2/04 at 12:31 AM Reply With Quote
I'd...

consider it to be like a body.

The spinal cord being the main loom.

The limbs being the main controls ie lights, horn, fan, Indicators, Fog

Digits being heaters, wipers, washers and the like.

It would be a potential nightmare doing it any other way as the market seems to be in transition, going from classic donors to modern donors and Bike Engines of a number of type's.

Therefore, the system would need to be modular to suit each individual kit and requirements, also making it ageproof as it can be easily updated.






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DaveFJ

posted on 23/2/04 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
On the subject of what to include...

would like to see:

1,Lighter socket (charging my phone etc)
2,stereo take off (just power not speakers or aerial)
3,provision for use of an electric heater
4,High level stop lamp
5, ability to mount anti-mother-in-law bazooka

Probably a few others but that was off the top of my head

HTH





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