GasGasGas
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 07:19 PM |
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A word to the wise
It was a fine Sunday afternoon and a group of locosters were happily playing auto-electriacians. When they were just about finished playing they asked
their host to put the battery in to see all the pretty lights flash.
But alas the lights they did not flash, so after much head scratching and "you'll need a new one o' them" , a desperate
locoster stared at the battery in dis-belief, DOHH-nut who put the batery on back to front!!!!
Motto "if all else fails turn it round"
 
[Edited on 6/7/03 by GasGasGas]
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bob
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 07:21 PM |
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LOL
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 07:27 PM |
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donut
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 07:30 PM |
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Blimey! that didn't take long!!!!
Don't beleive a word everyone...it's not true!!!!!
Apart from that very embarrassing oversight by your's truely a very productive afternoon was had by ....well....me! and i would like to thank
everyone who took part in getting my little car that much closer to being on the road.
A special thanks also goes to Jasper for taking me out in his little rocket........I'm still trying to get over it!!
Andy - the Electrition.......NOT!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Deckman001
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 08:18 PM |
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It could only have been him do something like that, still it wouldn't have been a locost bbq if nothing had gone wrong at some point !
Just glad it wasn't my part of the wiring that was wrong, that Would have been embarrassing !
Only the engine to sort now mate, shouldn't take too long now
Jason
[Edited on 6/7/03 by Deckman001]
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 08:25 PM |
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andy you really are a donut
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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bob
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 09:13 PM |
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ANDY
Apart from cooking the meat on the bar-b you only had one thing to do in the garage.
And you got that wrong LOL
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 09:47 PM |
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Guys,
Help. I spent the day trying to sort out my wiring using the sierra loom and I'm in a right mess. The Haynes manual bears no resemblance to my
loom. For example it shows a 16 pin connector to the instrument cluster on every model and year but mine has a 13 pin connector and the wires for the
battery warning light are supposed to be on pin eight but I traced mine to pin 1. Bob gave me an 8 way fuse box but I cant see how I can swap over
from the Sierra monster box as it is integral with the relays with interconnecting wires in the back. I have a bundle of wires in the bulk head area
as thick as a babys arm even though I have removed all of the unecessary stuff. If anyone can help please get in touch cos I'm really pissed off
at the moment.
Next step could be unfinished project for sale.
I'm off to get pissed. I hate vehicle electrics cos I dont understand them - I dont even know what a relay is supposed to do.
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 10:59 PM |
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remember I mentioned once that trying to use the donor loom - especially the fuse box, isnt really on.....
elecrics are one of my 'skills areas' so its not hard for me. However, it really shouldnt be that hard to understand cos you can just
consider a circuit to be like a road map. It starts somewhere and ends somewhere.
I would suggest either you buy a kit car loom - which will give you a head start, or you use a simple diagram, like that in 'the book' and
work from it. I find the haynes manuals a bit screwy to follow and I design electronics stuff.
car electrics isnt hard - you can either treat it as a challenge, bite the bullet, and give it a go, or buy a loom - which might be your best
route!
The loom out of a donor car is a mass of crap. Its not anyway near that involved on your car. Junk the donor loom. Just look on lolo 's web site
at the viki green loom - it looks tiny in comparison!
atb
steve
[Edited on 6/7/03 by stephen_gusterson]
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donut
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 06:48 AM |
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Oh God i'm SO embarrassed!!!!!
I think i had better stick to the cooking!!!!
See...i'm not called Donut for nothing!!
Andy - the donut!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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ChrisW
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 09:48 AM |
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Just remember...
+ = positive = red = live
- = negative = black = earth
Following on from Steve's thread, agreed a Sierra loom is a nightmare although the Escort mk4 one I've used has been great.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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donut
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 10:25 AM |
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Thanks Chris...i'll remember that when i'm wiring up your car!!!!!..............................................KABOOOOOM!!!
Andy the auto electrition!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 04:51 PM |
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paul,there is a wiring diag on the locost owners site,easier to pull out the wires u need and bin the rest,youd be suprised the ammount of wire left
over
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Deckman001
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 08:58 PM |
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Try this site, looks help full, but i would advise buying a new premier loom, very easy to fit !! ask Andy !! LOL LOL LOL
Good luck, and don't give up !
http://locost7.info/index.php
Jason
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donut
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 09:02 PM |
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And don't connect the battery up wrong!!!
D'OH!
Andy
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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donut
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 09:03 PM |
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Hey only 1 more post and it's the big 500...hmmmm
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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donut
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 09:04 PM |
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YAY! 500 posts...
Mind you that will only last untill i post again!!!......poo
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Mark H
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| posted on 8/7/03 at 11:37 AM |
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Andy - just never post again!
Its been nice knowing you.
Mark Harrison and
Q986 KCP back from the dead...
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ned
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| posted on 8/7/03 at 11:42 AM |
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yeah, you're good with the BBQ, put electrics and posting, well..... you know.
nuf said.
Ned!!
(the hypocrit with 564 posts at time of posting this)
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Simon
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| posted on 10/7/03 at 03:24 PM |
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Steve,
I agree with your sentiments re the Sierra wiring loom.
I had it all laid out neatly on the floor (trying to figure out which bits go where), and decided a Mini wiring loom was more appropriate, so chopped
the Sierra one to give me yards and yards of various colour wire.
Scanned a Mini loom, rehashed it slightly (removed interior lights/door switches etc), and for those interested - it's in the archive. Quick
word of warning - it's untried - so until I've made mine and plugged it in, I don't know if it's gonna work.
Chris - brown is the earth on Sierra's!!
ATB
Simon
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 10/7/03 at 11:04 PM |
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Bugger it I'm going to convert my car to run on -48v then I can do all my wiring in blue for the feed and black for the return.
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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JoelP
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| posted on 28/7/03 at 06:30 PM |
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I started taking out a sierra loom. you're all right, its a sack of.. hundreds of wires and only a few needed. plus i still havent got the
fuse box loose. started by cutting out the radio and speaker wires, then all the engine bay wires, batt and alt wires. I reckon i'm gonna bin
the lot though.
a book called something like "design and build a sports car" has a good section on how to wire a loom from scratch, almost makes it sound
easy. still a few months till i have to do that though so all good for now...
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Jon Bradbury
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| posted on 29/7/03 at 09:11 PM |
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Stick with it mate...
Actually, on the Sierra loom its the BROWN wires that usually go to earth. I'm using it on my Robin Hood, with minimal cutting down. Fusebox is
fitted as-is (what me, a chicken??). Lots of Hoodies stick with the Sierra loom as the alternatives are too terrible to contemplate (eg, no relays in
the VG loom... uh-oh!).
Stick with it is my advice. Making your own loom is a bit of a black art I reckon. And the Sierra loom really is (sort of) modular, if a bit OTT.
After all, you never know when you'll want the boot light or rear demister circuit.. I kept most of it (even the headlight wash/wipe circuit for
some bizarre reason), but my car does run and all the lights work properly (even the clock is doing its bit).
Cheers
JonB
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 30/7/03 at 07:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
a book called something like "design and build a sports car" has a good section on how to wire a loom from scratch, almost makes it sound
easy. still a few months till i have to do that though so all good for now...
I have that book - it was written by Our Ron's workshop technician at Oundle School. It got slagged off when it first came out, but most
critics missed the point... it was written for total novices in the kit car world.
Some bits of it are very good - including the electrics part. It doesn't give you a wiring diagram, but tells you all you need to know to work
one out for yourself. After all, the Locost loom isn't very complicated!
I wouldn't suggest that anyone rushes out and buys the book - but it is worth getting a copy from the library for a week or two, especially if
you are brand new to Locost building.
Just my morning's 2pence worth...
David
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ned
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| posted on 30/7/03 at 08:39 AM |
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I'm afraid i just hacked my sierra loom to pieces, but then i'll be running a vauxhall so building my own loom anyway. it must be
hours/days to get it all out and labelled correctly.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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