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Good argument for onboard fire bottle
Fred W B - 22/11/11 at 06:30 PM

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+ don't put your trust in marshals

Cheers

Fred W B

[Edited on 22/11/11 by Fred W B]


designer - 22/11/11 at 06:38 PM

Spends all that money on a track car and has no built in extinguisher!


sebastiaan - 22/11/11 at 06:46 PM

Source was very probably a fuel leak on the rear bulkhead, so I doubt if a built-in extinguisher would have helped. (this was discussed at length on the dutch kitcarclub website). The imprtant thing is that the guy got out OK.

As for the marshals: these guys are there voluntarily freezing their buts off for a cheese sandwich....


britishtrident - 22/11/11 at 06:46 PM

Underlines one of the big the dangers of track days & private practice: No Marshalls.

I have always been aware of this since Norrie Gabraith's terrible fatal accident during private filming.


mark chandler - 22/11/11 at 06:53 PM

Some of the other drivers going by could have lent a hand as well, pretty poor show IMHO!


Confused but excited. - 22/11/11 at 06:58 PM

Volunteer or not, that marshal would have had boot polish all over his nads if that had been my car.
He must have thought that extinguisher was to weigh him down to stop him being blown away.


matt_claydon - 22/11/11 at 06:59 PM

Any guesses as to what the little explosion at 1:47 is?


flibble - 22/11/11 at 07:07 PM

Watching this did kick me into gear to getting an extinguisher to buy and put one in the boot but what sort is best? A cursory look at eBay and Foam, Powder and CO2 all say suitable for flammable liquids?


phelpsa - 22/11/11 at 07:10 PM

I carry a small bottle in the Locost for speed events even though I dont need to. Its only to get me out and away from the car really though, once its going up like that i'll be running pretty quick!


Ninehigh - 22/11/11 at 07:10 PM

That's a good point at the very least you could point and squirt the thing in the general area of the fire


iank - 22/11/11 at 07:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
Any guesses as to what the little explosion at 1:47 is?


Swirl pot?


Ninehigh - 22/11/11 at 07:23 PM

Just as a thought maybe there could be a sticky somewhere with little extra items like this that aren't really required but are a good idea.


MakeEverything - 22/11/11 at 07:24 PM

Shocking behaviour from the marshals, poor show all round really with no regard for minimising damage at all.


coyoteboy - 22/11/11 at 08:05 PM

quote:

Some of the other drivers going by could have lent a hand as well, pretty poor show IMHO!



+1, unless it was a well marshalled world championship style event I'd bloody well be stopping to help out a fellow driver who's car's on fire, how poor spirited of all those miserable sods who drove past a plume of smoke.


blakep82 - 22/11/11 at 08:15 PM

track days aren't marshalled like a race event though are they? thought there was only 1 marshal with flags and a radio per post? in which case, he'll be there with his yellow flag radioing for fire marshals. not sure there's a great deal more the marshal could do tbh. if he's not got the flag out warning the others to slow down and goes to put a fire out, what if one car comes round and ploughs into them? who's faults that?


coyoteboy - 22/11/11 at 08:23 PM

He didn't have a flag out did he?


Stott - 22/11/11 at 08:28 PM

The YouTube comment sums it up: what if you were stuck in the burning car and all you had was THAT Marshall

Volunteer or not he's not there to look on, that's what the spectators are there for


snakebelly - 22/11/11 at 08:28 PM

explosion was probably a tyre going off


MakeEverything - 22/11/11 at 08:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
explosion was probably a tyre going off


Or a fuel filter.


blakep82 - 22/11/11 at 08:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
He didn't have a flag out did he?


oh him? right, i flicked through a lot of it, missed him there. yeah, who knows then...


JoelP - 22/11/11 at 08:51 PM

i have one under my bed, i dont know if a fire or a burglar will feel it first but its nice to have it there.


Daddylonglegs - 22/11/11 at 08:56 PM

My guess for the explosion is the battery?


will121 - 22/11/11 at 09:19 PM

as said trackdays have a lot less marshal points than a race, friend of mine had a engine bay fire and made sure he pulled off the track directly beside a maned marshal position who put it out swiftly, if happened and stopped half way along the straight would been at least a minute before anyone saw it and came running at least 400yards with a weighty extinguisher.
Another good idea to take note when on a trackday as things can go wrong same as last track day i done at Snetterton last Sunday when one car through a rod, following car span on oil and head on into armco, one written off clio a sore neck


lsdweb - 22/11/11 at 10:04 PM

Foam extinguishers / built in foam systems - crap on car fires. Marshals pretty unimpressive! And not exactly wearing the right kit to deal with fuel fires!


Litemoth - 22/11/11 at 10:24 PM

As there was no life in danger, you cant blame the marshall for not wanting to get a face full of burning fuel - if the tank popped.
I didn't notice the driver rushing to have another go with the marshall's extinguisher.
The fire service was a bit Trumpton.


morcus - 23/11/11 at 03:36 AM

It seems to me that he should really have gotten out of the car rather than fish out the extinguisher as surely it's safer to get out and away than try and put out a fire like that? I know it's his car and it's his money but he's potentially putting other people at risk who'd have to come into danger if the fire got worse and torched him.