Which would you rather have and why?
If I had the space I would have them lined up
used to have an all-rounder WRX wagon, quick, fun, great tow car - 4WD, and unstoppable in the snow.
Now I have a passat wagon,TDi, 
But it does do 40+mpg, and is huge inside,... and the Fury 
oh yes
so at least there is a choice,...
Is this like a fantasy choice if so the boring car would be a BMW 330D coupe it's economical and a good drive, as the toy it would have to be a Nissan GTR an every day super car.
two cars. That way any old boring but reliable car for the chores, and when you want fun, swap and enjoy.
If you have one car, it takes the fun away. Having been in a huge variety of quick and "fun" machinery, none would keep the fun factor long.
Some I tired of quickly, compared to a small light proper sports car, they are heavy and nowhere near as involving. GTR being one case (superb car,
but soooo heavy and it fiddles with itself when you are driving.)
you wouldnt think a gtr was boring if you'd been in or driven one. i almost crapped myself when i went out in one of the new 500+ bhp ones. id have one, if funds permitted
The biggest problem is performance and practicality don't mix, no matter what anyone says.
To get a truly sharp drive you need something that becomes impractical for everyday use.
You NEED 2 cars! Lol
It's great having a quick car that does 5mpg flat out and costs £700 for a set of tyres, it's not great however, having to fuel it up every
day to take it to work.
I very nearly bought a focus rs 2 in Oct, then the thought of the insurance (dearer than my 2 cars combined), the £400+ tax, £600 for 4 tyres, 25mpg
every single day etc etc etc, I thought sod that, so I bought the car in my avatar and kept the diesel fabia for day to day, and saved money!
I take it this is "money not an issue"?
Because really it's budget dependant, and circumstances.. If I had no family I'd have an MX5 or MR2 or similar as my daily hack.. But since
I need to fit 5 in at times... I guess an Evo would be a good one to have
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Originally posted by daniel mason
you wouldnt think a gtr was boring if you'd been in or driven one. i almost crapped myself when i went out in one of the new 500+ bhp ones. id have one, if funds permitted
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Originally posted by shindha as the toy it would have to be a Nissan GTR an every day super car.
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Originally posted by daniel mason
you wouldnt think a gtr was boring if you'd been in or driven one. i almost crapped myself when i went out in one of the new 500+ bhp ones. id have one, if funds permitted
)
the gtr was rthe second fastes car top gear ever tested.it was way faster than an r500 so my car wouldnt come close. i have honestly never been in a
car anything like as fast and although some people have quick kit cars,(myself included) they dont go,grip,brake or corner like a gtr. its a true
masterpiece of engineering and shows what can be acheived!
not quite sure how you managed to pass the gtr on track?
I'm voting more than 1.
As much as i begrudge my contribution to th goverments coffers for it, we've now got a low budget mixz of 4 between the two of us
Sportyish little Yaris hatch for the mrs commute a local runs
Speedy enough Saab turbo for my commute plus longer trips
The MK blade for all out rapid fun
The 7 seater Terrano for weekend country fun, and luxury dog transport
About £10k the lot!
Sorry but GTRs are way out of my league
a gtr exhaust is way out of my league! lol
Cheap diesel runabout estate with tow bar capable of pulling 1000kg trailer
Something nice to own that will not devalue and you will enjoy, make sure it qualifies for classic insurance, pre emission road tax.
Keep little car for the track on top of a trailer
Job done
[Edited on 25/2/12 by mark chandler]
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Originally posted by daniel mason
the gtr was rthe second fastes car top gear ever tested.it was way faster than an r500 so my car wouldnt come close. i have honestly never been in a car anything like as fast and although some people have quick kit cars,(myself included) they dont go,grip,brake or corner like a gtr. its a true masterpiece of engineering and shows what can be acheived!
not quite sure how you managed to pass the gtr on track?
Boringish car for going to work, shopping, family days out and a fun car for when there's only you (or maybe two......possibly....) There realy
isn't a car in existance that can be as good at the two jobs as two seperate cars designed for each job.
Your opinion on this will however depend on age and family commitments I personaly don't think a GTR would make a good family car but I'm
starting to get on a bit!
i know the gtr i not an everyday car for the masses but come on. you cant tell me the mev laps quicker than a 500bhp/ton caterham r500? and the gtr is
way faster than that. you cant just say 'its got more bhp/ton so its faster'. i think the same as you. a boring car and a toy. but the gtr
will be on a par with a v8 atom with twice the bhp/ton. look how fast it can lap the ring.its on another level to a kit. but comes at a cost
and stick 2x80kg drivers into a 450kg car and your up at 610kgs with 160 h/p, probably 130 at the wheels.
i think you were obviously a much better driver than the guy in the gtr.
[Edited on 24/2/12 by daniel mason]
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Originally posted by Stott
Plus theres no flatshifter in a gtr and despite the clever electronics and wide tyres it can't corner as fast as a lot of our cars, you can't rewrite the laws of physics, it's still a big boat.
I wasn't driving to be fair, it was the builder who admittedly is none too shabby behind the wheel, but the guy who brought the gtr was balls out
fair play. He must have had deep pockets, all credit to him, he wasn't scared to use it.
It's ok saying that the r500 laps the ring in xxx and the gtr in xxx but that's where the big boys with more power and in the gtrs case,
aero, come into their own. Where they can strech their legs and make use of the speeds they can achieve because on a long straight the fact they are
doing 40mph more at the end of it makes a massive difference to the times.
It's an incredible car, I love them, I even, sadly enough, own the dvd of the development of the skyline gtr so I'm no hater, but bring one
to a typical British track and you will find a lot of the kit boys are as quick and even quicker than it.
The r500 is immense, it killed the gtr around the top gear track, it's a league up again. However the atom also beat the gtr around there and we
can outdrag a supercharged atom, just, due to the gearchange, so my point holds true.
Oh and it's not a MEV! 
ATB
Stott
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Originally posted by TAZZMAXX
quote:
Originally posted by Stott
Plus theres no flatshifter in a gtr and despite the clever electronics and wide tyres it can't corner as fast as a lot of our cars, you can't rewrite the laws of physics, it's still a big boat.
In manual mode, the BW GR6 transmission that is in the GTR can shift in 200 milliseconds which I would say is fairly quick. If you start throwing the car through corners really hard, your neck will start to hurt after a while. Hey, I'm not here to argue but it's a car that does things it shouldn't.
[Edited on 24/2/12 by TAZZMAXX]
Stott, even on the gtr forum we have lots of falling out as the new breed of gtr owners are a lot of ex Audi and BMW owning arses who believe the R35 is the be all and end all but it stands to sense that it can't beat everything. I like it for what it is but am still pushing forward with a Pinto engined go-kart, just for the fun of it. I have another car planned for when the Haynes car is complete and will hopefully be a stupid big engine in a small car. I love the GTR as it is so extreme and I know my talent will always be way exceeded by the GTR's capabilities. Having said that I enjoy driving my 307 as you can really push it to the limits and not be too far out of what is legal. I'm certainly no fanboy and would like to think that I'm going to get to drive in as many different cars as possible before I go in the box.
True ^^^
I like that your an owner who still has perspective, as you no doubt appreciate, a lot of owners don't.
Fair play to you, it's a total beast of a motor, and I'd love a go in one. I wasn't hating on the gtr in any way as I'm sure
you'll appreciate by my previous posts, just as they say "every dog has it's day", and in certain circumstances a lot of kits are
quicker, at the ring, or silverstone for that matter, it would be a total trouncing by the nissan.
If you ever see me at an event driving my 'box of exhaust bends' then I'll take you out in it in return for a pass ride in your gtr,
deal?
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Originally posted by StottIf you ever see me at an event driving my 'box of exhaust bends' then I'll take you out in it in return for a pass ride in your gtr, deal?
Two cars at the minute, V70 T5 for our lass, and my 14 year old Berlingo. I had a sore neck after a drive once, someone ran into the back of the van (but didn't smash my back doors in, thank you).
Well that's this thread b*ggered then! Hands up who on here can afford to run a Nissan GTR as a family car nowadays (or even better as just as a
fun car)????............. nope, thought not
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Originally posted by D Beddows
Well that's this thread b*ggered then! Hands up who on here can afford to run a Nissan GTR as a family car nowadays (or even better as just as a fun car)????............. nope, thought not
Yeah, I get that too (although hands up who's had a bonus in the past couple of years???....unless you move pretend money about for a living
obviously!) but I think the original post was about whether to buy a 2nd hand Passat/Golf/Fabia/Mondeo AND a kit car OR spend the same money on
something like a Scuby or an Evo - not taking out a mortgage to buy a GTR
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Originally posted by D Beddows
Hands up who's had a bonus in the past couple of years???
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I work in engineering and still have a job? That's all the bonus I get.
Alot of posts.
Yes the original Idea was about much more boring cars than GTR's, and was more do you get an Evo/3 series or spend the money on a Mondeo and a
kit.
Driving anything to work everyday does make it boring quite quickly, since I've started walking to work (I moved house and it's quicker to
walk) I find the car slightly more intresting than I did a few months ago, though 3 years is still too long to own a normal car me thinks.
We are a 3 car family. My wife has a MkV GTI Golf which is everyday practical and with the DSG box is also sporty and fun. I run a beat up 94 Trooper
Bighorn which would pull a ship and has been fantastic over the last three winters. I also have the Indy as my fun car.
We are actually in the market to change the cars now (already looking). The Golf is due for replacement and our thought process is Replace the Trooper
with a 2nd hand Volvo XC90 (Practical, modern and better fuel economy then the Trooper as its a modern 2.4 TD vs an old 3.1 TD) and then replace the
Golf with an MX-5 MkIII Roadster (again 2nd hand maybe an 08/09 plate). The Indy is not being factored in to this car change around.
Monthly outgoings are less overall and we have Fun, Practical, All Round family coverage.
Simmppplllesss
..........Neil
[Edited on 25/2/12 by Nash]
The gtr lapped the top gear track quicker than the r500
Well we,ve got 4 cars at the moment. I drive an Audi s2 avant as a daily and have a tiger cat e1. The wife has a Ford galaxy and an Audi 80 cabby. The s2 is a quick car but nowhere near the fun of the tiger. You need an estate to lug things about with and a 2 seater to get away from it all in too. Well, you do when you've a wife and 3 kids anyway.
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Originally posted by daniel mason
The gtr lapped the top gear track quicker than the r500
yeah i saw the original gtr time. 1 min 19 or something.
the revised gtr was improved in mamy areas. including a hefty bhp hike!
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Originally posted by morcus
Alot of posts.
Yes the original Idea was about much more boring cars than GTR's, and was more do you get an Evo/3 series or spend the money on a Mondeo and a kit.
Driving anything to work everyday does make it boring quite quickly, since I've started walking to work (I moved house and it's quicker to walk) I find the car slightly more intresting than I did a few months ago, though 3 years is still too long to own a normal car me thinks.
Anyone tried using their Locost as an everyday car for a while ? Not many references to this on the forum but I cant see any reason why someone
couldnt do it given weather gear etc.
I used a Cobra replica as my main car for a year once. Bits kept falling off as it was a pooly designed early Pilgrim Sumo but it was just as
practical for everyday use as an MX5 or any other 2 seater car and saved the expense of keeping another car on the road.