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scudderfish - 30/4/12 at 02:01 PM

Saw this fine example of stopping on Friday, it was there all day.



Maybe I'm getting more intolerant as I age, but poor parking is really beginning to rile me. It's either a lack of competence or consideration or both.

And breathe....


MikeFellows - 30/4/12 at 02:07 PM

to me thats more worthy of 3 points and a £60 fine than 50 in a 40


nick205 - 30/4/12 at 02:12 PM

I'd want to measure the car behind as well, which looks too close to the junction.

Times like that you need a really ratty 4x4 with substantial bull bars to highlight the problem to the other driver


ReMan - 30/4/12 at 02:15 PM

yea , should have put it on the childrens playing area with the other!


blakep82 - 30/4/12 at 02:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
I'd want to measure the car behind as well, which looks too close to the junction.

Times like that you need a really ratty 4x4 with substantial bull bars to highlight the problem to the other driver


true! there's an MX5 'parks in a narrow bit of gourock, where they have parking spaces, then the kerb curves out to road side, then back in for the turning into a road, this MX5 regularly parks with the portion from the back driver side corner, to the back of the passenger door in the road. i want to smack into it just to proove a point lol


roadrunner - 30/4/12 at 02:34 PM

People who park on tight unsighted corners are the worst aholes, IMO.
It is just complete and utter laziness. You just get going past them when someone comes from the opposite direction.


designer - 30/4/12 at 02:50 PM

Funny how the Police never see what they should!


A1 - 30/4/12 at 03:44 PM

theyre not speeding though, so theyre not doing anything wrong...


some of the parking round our way is apalling, cars left about half a meter off the kerb or on the kerb... also, why do people think its acceptable nowadays to drive into a space, bump up on the pavement then back down to get into a space?
its called parallel parking and its not hard!!!


designer - 30/4/12 at 03:54 PM

quote:

theyre not speeding though, so theyre not doing anything wrong...



It is illegally parked!


Ninehigh - 30/4/12 at 04:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
quote:

theyre not speeding though, so theyre not doing anything wrong...



It is illegally parked!


Iirc it's not illegal in itself but it is dangerous


myke pocock - 30/4/12 at 04:14 PM

It is extremely unlikely that plod will do anything and that means that the driver can get away with it, they know they can get away with it and they do. I get angry at that kind of attitude same as parking outside schools on the yellow chevrons, zig zags next to pedestrian crossings and on double yellows just to go to an ATM.


fha772 - 30/4/12 at 04:20 PM

We used to have the same problem opposite the gate to my sisters house, that's at the end of a narrow road, right on a junction.
We had somebody who worked in the offices round the corner, always parking there, because they thought the work car park was too tight.
Because there were no road markings, the police wouldn't do anything.

So, after asking the woman for over a week, if she could park her car either further up the road, or in her work car park, as it was obstructing our access in and out of the house (it would take 4-6 shunts to get in or out with her 4x4).
I had to back my Scammell tank transporter, down my sisters drive, to winch out a tree stump, which took around 20 shunts to get into the drive, after we'd asked her to move while we got the lorry in and out. But, unfortunately, when I was leaving, my foot slipped off the clutch, and the front bumper of my Scammell removed the roof of her car...

Did you know, you don't get a no claims bonus on commercial vehicles...


nick205 - 30/4/12 at 04:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fha772
We used to have the same problem opposite the gate to my sisters house, that's at the end of a narrow road, right on a junction.
We had somebody who worked in the offices round the corner, always parking there, because they thought the work car park was too tight.
Because there were no road markings, the police wouldn't do anything.

So, after asking the woman for over a week, if she could park her car either further up the road, or in her work car park, as it was obstructing our access in and out of the house (it would take 4-6 shunts to get in or out with her 4x4).
I had to back my Scammell tank transporter, down my sisters drive, to winch out a tree stump, which took around 20 shunts to get into the drive, after we'd asked her to move while we got the lorry in and out. But, unfortunately, when I was leaving, my foot slipped off the clutch, and the front bumper of my Scammell removed the roof of her car...

Did you know, you don't get a no claims bonus on commercial vehicles...



Good work - assume she desisted from parking there


fha772 - 30/4/12 at 04:33 PM

Yeah, it was funny really, apparently the car park wasn't as tight as she thought...


Dangle_kt - 30/4/12 at 04:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fha772
We used to have the same problem opposite the gate to my sisters house, that's at the end of a narrow road, right on a junction.
We had somebody who worked in the offices round the corner, always parking there, because they thought the work car park was too tight.
Because there were no road markings, the police wouldn't do anything.

So, after asking the woman for over a week, if she could park her car either further up the road, or in her work car park, as it was obstructing our access in and out of the house (it would take 4-6 shunts to get in or out with her 4x4).
I had to back my Scammell tank transporter, down my sisters drive, to winch out a tree stump, which took around 20 shunts to get into the drive, after we'd asked her to move while we got the lorry in and out. But, unfortunately, when I was leaving, my foot slipped off the clutch, and the front bumper of my Scammell removed the roof of her car...

Did you know, you don't get a no claims bonus on commercial vehicles...


*standing ovation*


Ninehigh - 30/4/12 at 04:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fha772
We used to have the same problem opposite the gate to my sisters house, that's at the end of a narrow road, right on a junction.
We had somebody who worked in the offices round the corner, always parking there, because they thought the work car park was too tight.
Because there were no road markings, the police wouldn't do anything.

So, after asking the woman for over a week, if she could park her car either further up the road, or in her work car park, as it was obstructing our access in and out of the house (it would take 4-6 shunts to get in or out with her 4x4).
I had to back my Scammell tank transporter, down my sisters drive, to winch out a tree stump, which took around 20 shunts to get into the drive, after we'd asked her to move while we got the lorry in and out. But, unfortunately, when I was leaving, my foot slipped off the clutch, and the front bumper of my Scammell removed the roof of her car...

Did you know, you don't get a no claims bonus on commercial vehicles...


Do you still have the Scammel? Looks like there's another car on the OP's pic that needs you to make it into a convertible


fha772 - 30/4/12 at 05:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by fha772
We used to have the same problem opposite the gate to my sisters house, that's at the end of a narrow road, right on a junction.
We had somebody who worked in the offices round the corner, always parking there, because they thought the work car park was too tight.
Because there were no road markings, the police wouldn't do anything.

So, after asking the woman for over a week, if she could park her car either further up the road, or in her work car park, as it was obstructing our access in and out of the house (it would take 4-6 shunts to get in or out with her 4x4).
I had to back my Scammell tank transporter, down my sisters drive, to winch out a tree stump, which took around 20 shunts to get into the drive, after we'd asked her to move while we got the lorry in and out. But, unfortunately, when I was leaving, my foot slipped off the clutch, and the front bumper of my Scammell removed the roof of her car...

Did you know, you don't get a no claims bonus on commercial vehicles...


Do you still have the Scammel? Looks like there's another car on the OP's pic that needs you to make it into a convertible


I've still got the Scammell, and a 4x4 Dodge 50, and a 1942 6x6 Dodge WC62 troop carrier...


ReMan - 30/4/12 at 05:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fha772
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by fha772
We used to have the same problem opposite the gate to my sisters house, that's at the end of a narrow road, right on a junction.
We had somebody who worked in the offices round the corner, always parking there, because they thought the work car park was too tight.
Because there were no road markings, the police wouldn't do anything.

So, after asking the woman for over a week, if she could park her car either further up the road, or in her work car park, as it was obstructing our access in and out of the house (it would take 4-6 shunts to get in or out with her 4x4).
I had to back my Scammell tank transporter, down my sisters drive, to winch out a tree stump, which took around 20 shunts to get into the drive, after we'd asked her to move while we got the lorry in and out. But, unfortunately, when I was leaving, my foot slipped off the clutch, and the front bumper of my Scammell removed the roof of her car...

Did you know, you don't get a no claims bonus on commercial vehicles...


Do you still have the Scammel? Looks like there's another car on the OP's pic that needs you to make it into a convertible


I've still got the Scammell, and a 4x4 Dodge 50, and a 1942 6x6 Dodge WC62 troop carrier...

Wow and even more shares than me in BP!


MikeRJ - 30/4/12 at 05:58 PM

I hate people parking like this, it's utterly ignorant Sadly the police seem to do very little about this.


A1 - 30/4/12 at 06:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
quote:

theyre not speeding though, so theyre not doing anything wrong...



It is illegally parked!



i was being sarcastic.


Furyous - 30/4/12 at 06:51 PM

Have the people complaining about the police ever tried calling them? The ones driving around probably aren't too bothered about stopping to give out parking tickets (plus the associated paperwork) but if you phone the non-emergency number and say someone is obstructing the road they might send someone round when they're not busy.

It is annoying, though. Especially when there are a few spaces further back.

Someone at work was recounting a story from the marina he lives in where they have "No parking" signs for a very good reason. Someone parked there and soon found out the space is needed for the 12 ton forklift to move boats around. They picked the car up with the forklift and moved it somewhere more convenient.


Blackbird Rush - 30/4/12 at 07:34 PM

saw a police car the other day sat/parked/dumped about midway across one lane of a single carrigeway road on a bend, no plod to be seen, either they were very lazy or it had broken down.

either way it was causing an obstruction, but they did leave the roof flashers on!


jacko - 30/4/12 at 07:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
I hate people parking like this, it's utterly ignorant Sadly the police seem to do very little about this.


Funny you should wright that because the police came to every house down the street at the weekend telling every one to stop parking on the street corners and on the grass verges
Jacko


Simon - 30/4/12 at 08:11 PM

It's been a very long time since I read the highway code, but iirc you aren't allowed (therefore illegal) to park within 15 yards of a junction with a main road (which I'm guessing that is, given the giveway lines/road condition etc.

Perhaps someone with a copy could have a read then we'll know for sure.

ATB

Simon


nick205 - 30/4/12 at 08:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
It's been a very long time since I read the highway code, but iirc you aren't allowed (therefore illegal) to park within 15 yards of a junction with a main road (which I'm guessing that is, given the giveway lines/road condition etc.

Perhaps someone with a copy could have a read then we'll know for sure.

ATB

Simon


...and maybe pop a laminated A4 photocopy of the relevant page under their wiper


Simon - 30/4/12 at 08:20 PM

Hmm, dvla has it on its website (well done it):

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069860

242

You MUST NOT leave your vehicle or trailer in a dangerous position or where it causes any unnecessary obstruction of the road.

[Laws RTA 1988, sect 22 & CUR reg 103]

243

DO NOT stop or park
•near a school entrance
•anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
•at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
•on the approach to a level crossing or tramway crossing
•opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
•near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
•opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
•where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
•where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
•in front of an entrance to a property
•on a bend
•where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities

except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.

So it's covered by law in 242.

ATB

Simon


Simon - 30/4/12 at 08:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
It's been a very long time since I read the highway code, but iirc you aren't allowed (therefore illegal) to park within 15 yards of a junction with a main road (which I'm guessing that is, given the giveway lines/road condition etc.

Perhaps someone with a copy could have a read then we'll know for sure.

ATB

Simon


...and maybe pop a laminated A4 photocopy of the relevant page under their wiper


Seems a bit risky, it might blow away. Best knock out a window and leave it on the seat, under the brick

ATB

Simon


blakep82 - 30/4/12 at 08:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
It's been a very long time since I read the highway code, but iirc you aren't allowed (therefore illegal) to park within 15 yards of a junction with a main road (which I'm guessing that is, given the giveway lines/road condition etc.

Perhaps someone with a copy could have a read then we'll know for sure.

ATB

Simon


from the highway code

"Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules
you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on
your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be
sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST
NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which
creates the offence. An explanation of the abbreviations can be found in 'The road
user and the law'.

Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a
person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court
proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see 'The road user and the law' to establish
liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’
or ‘do/do not’."

can't find the bit about parking near junctions, if thats a must not or should not

[Edited on 30/4/12 by blakep82]


morcus - 1/5/12 at 12:53 AM

Could be worse, where I live it's all illegally parked lorries and coaches which are usually dumped there for a few days at a time.

The biggest problem is that there seem to be far too many people who don't even consider parking when they buy or rent a house. What some of those shows about house moving and you'll see loads of people that want to buy 'Character properties' where there's clearly not enough parking for the three or four cars they had outside their current house.

Then you have the worst kind of a'holes. People who have somewhere to park and either don't use it or use it in a stupid way so they're obstructing other parking. These include people that park on the traffic calmin they put through new estates where all the houses are off the road, people like the mx5 described above that when there isn't parking available just park next to it and my Neighbours who park all there cars on the street leaving their own parking space that noone else can use empty so anyone who visits me has to park afew streets away, even though theres actually parking available for about 20 cars most of the time. Honorably mention again to my nieghbours who when forced to park in there own parking spaces feel the need to park over the line into my space and in the non existant space behind my car so there isn't room to get out.

The police are rarely intrested in illegal parking, and when they do actually do anything you get some winey cluff moaning in the paper about how they're being picked on and the police not sorting real crime. Crashing into them is the only way they'll learn. Even better if you know a decent lawyer so you can actually tell them you crashed into them and charge it to there insurance.