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Jon Ison

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
Do you think it was a bad sign ?

One front wheel going forwards and one backwards as my van was pulled onto recovery vehicle.

Reason for recovery, came to an abrupt halt whilst slowing for traffic lights in Sheffield city center this afternoon, said halt was accompanied by crunchy noises from gearbox and screechy noises from tyres.

I think its broke.






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carpmart

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
I think its broke too!





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RichardK

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
I think your assessment is correct





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blakep82

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
mash up





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Richard Quinn

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
Yeah, you know what's happened don't you? ...







You've broken it!

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JoelP

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
at least the diff still works!

not a vivaro is it?!

[Edited on 3/1/10 by JoelP]





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bob

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:23 PM Reply With Quote
Jon i think the word your looking for is "lunched"






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Jon Ison

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
But maybe the diff is ok ?

Why would the wheels turn in opposite direction ? I understand how it happens when jacked up and you spin one the other can rotate opposite direction but when the full weight is on and basically its been towed ?

It was jammed in gear btw, engine would start/run with clutch depressed but stall instantly clutch engaged.

I guess its broke good ?






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Jon Ison

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
at least the diff still works!

not a vivaro is it?!

[Edited on 3/1/10 by JoelP]


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A traffic....................

Petrol non gearbox munching model though, allegedly.






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blakep82

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
But maybe the diff is ok ?

Why would the wheels turn in opposite direction ? I understand how it happens when jacked up and you spin one the other can rotate opposite direction but when the full weight is on and basically its been towed ?

It was jammed in gear btw



there's your answer. jammed gearbox.

spider gears are turning the wheel opposite directions because the 'crown wheel' is jammed, would be the RWD way of thinking





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martyn_16v

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
If the diff crown wheel is locked solid, if you turn one wheel the only way it can spin is by rotating the other one backwards. So something in the drive train is properly borked.






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JoelP

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
when my super long life, quality engineered, high durability vivaro gear box broke, it was actually just the selector. I was stuck in 2nd for a week!

It really annoyed me that i spent about £500 on a new box when i bet it was something dead simple to repair.





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JoelP

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
if the selector was broke, then it could either be stuck in a high gear, which might stall it, or more likely stuck in two gears at once, which would defiantely stall it.





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Jon Ison

posted on 3/1/10 at 09:43 PM Reply With Quote
think is a bit more serious than that, somethings broke and locked everything up good n proper, just glad I was doing about 20mph coasting to a set of lights, I had traveled to Sheff on M1 but decided to come back on A roads, would not have liked a instant unexpected front wheel lock up at 70mph.......

eta two gears sound possible but I wasn't changing gear at the time of implosion, bottom line its fcuk'd

[Edited on 3/1/10 by Jon Ison]






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charlie_pank

posted on 4/1/10 at 04:22 PM Reply With Quote
Surely if one wheel goes one way and one goes the other, it's the diff that's mangled? No matter as it's presumably all part of the gearbox in your daily driver, just like it is in mine. You'll either be dismantling the gearbox or just replacing it then.
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JoelP

posted on 4/1/10 at 09:14 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie_pank
Surely if one wheel goes one way and one goes the other, it's the diff that's mangled? No matter as it's presumably all part of the gearbox in your daily driver, just like it is in mine. You'll either be dismantling the gearbox or just replacing it then.


wheels going opposite directions implies diff spider gears are fine, but the crownwheel cannot turn - wheel with least grip will spin backwards to allow the grippy wheel to roll forward with the road. So if the crown cannot turn its probably the main gears holding it still.





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