mcerd1
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 04:21 PM |
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snow chains ?
Anone here use these composite snow chains ?
amazon
linky
are they any good ?
I'm not liking the looks of the snow socks much, these just look a bit more business like to my eyes....
cheers
-Robert
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owelly
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 04:35 PM |
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Is your pole for those composite things or proper snow chains? I've used some similar to those composite things but mine are like a plastic
waffle with studs in that wrap around the tyre. You have to lay them over the tyre then drive over them to fit them which is a bit of a chore. My
recently bought 9mm chains are a POP to fit and very good but you need to take them off as soon as you hit taramc whereas the plastic things are happy
on the blacktop for a bit longer.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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jossey
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 04:43 PM |
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snow chains are illegal in the UK.
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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Alfa145
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 04:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jossey
snow chains are illegal in the UK.
No they're not.
Souce The AA http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overseas/snow-chains-winter-tyres.html
[Edited on 7/12/11 by Alfa145]
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 05:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jossey
snow chains are illegal in the UK.
Why would that be?
Mind you this is coming from a government that got caught out with snow last year, in December, in a country about 800 miles from the artic circle
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mcerd1
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 05:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Is your pole for those composite things or proper snow chains?
just the composite things this time
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jossey
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 05:22 PM |
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i got pulled by the law. and told they cant be used on A roads only on unclassified roads.
they causioned me ....
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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owelly
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 05:43 PM |
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Snow chains can be used anywhere as long as the road conditions allow. If you're caught hammering up the M1 on a hot summers day, the BiB could
have a point. If you're crawling through 8" of snow, they can't touch you, A roads, B roads or a motorway.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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owelly
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 05:45 PM |
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I voted a 4 just because of the price compared to chains. Having said that, you've only got to use them once to not crash and you're quids
in!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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mcerd1
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 05:47 PM |
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^^ I've been bare faced lied to by the police s few times at the side of the road before now
so I don't beleve a word they say unless they can quote the traffic act it came from 
(I've got a few mates in the police and they agree with me on this  )
quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Snow chains can be used anywhere as long as the road conditions allow. If you're caught hammering up the M1 on a hot summers day, the BiB could
have a point. If you're crawling through 8" of snow, they can't touch you, A roads, B roads or a motorway.
^ thats exactly what I was always told
[Edited on 7/12/2011 by mcerd1]
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PSpirine
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 06:10 PM |
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It's not legal to drive with snow chains as soon as you reach a road that isn't covered in snow. It's because it ruins the tarmac
(and frankly, the roads around here don't need any more engouragement to deteriorate!). And I doubt you'd want to in either case as they
are noisy and incredibly rough.
We used to have a set of simple metal chains (£15 or something like that years ago) in Cyprus for driving up into the mountains in the Yaris.
Honestly, you can do some serious inclines on snow, or even ice/compacted snow, without even noticing it. The grip they provide is immense. However,
do realise that you're driving at an absolute max of 20mph (and usually around 10mph), they're not a replacement for snow/all season tyres
when driving along frosted/snow dusted A-roads.
I'm going to buy a set to have in the boot this winter. They never really wear out (they only wear out when you use them on tarmac), and because
they're such a doddle to fit, I'd rather stick them on than the socks if I get properly stuck.
If you live/drive along roads that don't look like they need a snow PLOUGH as opposed to a gritter, you probably wouldn't benefit from
them.
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 06:23 PM |
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I would buy a cheap set of chains and be done with it.
They used to be £20 a set, biggest downside is they are tricky to put on with thick gloves, and it is usually very cold when you need them. Found that
a pair of marigolds is a good compromise  provides enough protection against windchill and the snow but you can feel what you are fumbling with.
Mind you this is usaually at -10 or so up one of the alps.......
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stevebubs
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 11:01 PM |
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Features
Night Vision Security System, Increasing Lateral Car Visibility
You what???
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mcerd1
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| posted on 7/12/11 at 11:44 PM |
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^^ I think that means is got some reflective bits on the sides
[Edited on 7/12/2011 by mcerd1]
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T66
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| posted on 8/12/11 at 12:06 AM |
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I lived on the edge of Keilder forest for nearly three years. One of the remotest areas of the UK, and subject to extremes of weather.
My 1990 Cavalier diesel was fitted with Colway M&S tyres on the front, I also had chains for it.
Every other weekend me and a mate went into the wood for logs, we would cut trees down in all weathers, neither of our cars ever got stuck in snow. On
the odd occassion we couldnt get down certain exposed tracks. He had a Mazda 323. All my logging mates with trucks used them in the wood, so they
could access the harder to get to areas, then took them off when coming back onto the road.
I did have a play with the chains, and yes they are very good (I voted rubbish), but only for someone living in the Alps/Mountainous areas of Europe,
where the snow becomes deep and compacted, and remains for weeks at a time.
Even after last winters dump - we still didnt have major roads with so much compacted snow to justify chains. With chains you get wet and cold fitting
them, drive a few miles , and then the road clears and you have to remove them. So you get cold and wet again...
They are a complete chew on, capable yes but not in the slightest bit practical for our cold weather.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 8/12/11 at 11:59 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by T66
I did have a play with the chains, and yes they are very good (I voted rubbish), but only for someone living in the Alps/Mountainous areas of Europe,
where the snow becomes deep and compacted, and remains for weeks at a time.
Even after last winters dump - we still didnt have major roads with so much compacted snow to justify chains. With chains you get wet and cold fitting
them, drive a few miles , and then the road clears and you have to remove them. So you get cold and wet again...
don't worry I'm not going to run with them all the time or expect them to turn my hatchback into a 4x4 either
I've got some winter tyres on already that worked well for me the last two winters (they were more than enough for the treaded or ploughed
roads)
but I do need to be able to get down a few unclasified roads that are about the lowest priority for the ploughs/gritters and even a few private roads
too (my parents live out in the sticks, its alright for them though - they've got landrovers)
last year they took 3 weeks to get round to some of these roads and a few never got anything at all...
The worst bit I had to deal with every other day was hard packed icy stuff (untreated) on 1 in 3, with an 'S' bend, over narrow bridge
with no sides crossing a burn (aka 'stream' for those south of the border) - that was a bit interesting some days!
I did get there last year, but another 1" of snow and I'd have been stuffed on some bits, so I expect these will live in my boot untill
I'm really desperate
cherrs all for the input
-Robert
(I've ordered a set btw - will let you know how I get on)
[Edited on 8/12/2011 by mcerd1]
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T66
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| posted on 8/12/11 at 12:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by T66
I did have a play with the chains, and yes they are very good (I voted rubbish), but only for someone living in the Alps/Mountainous areas of Europe,
where the snow becomes deep and compacted, and remains for weeks at a time.
Even after last winters dump - we still didnt have major roads with so much compacted snow to justify chains. With chains you get wet and cold fitting
them, drive a few miles , and then the road clears and you have to remove them. So you get cold and wet again...
don't worry I'm not going to run with them all the time or expect them to turn my hatchback into a 4x4 either
I've got some winter tyres on already that worked well for me the last two winters (they were more than enough for the treaded or ploughed
roads)
but I do need to be able to get down a few unclasified roads that are about the lowest priority for the ploughs/gritters and even a few private roads
too (my parents live out in the sticks, its alright for them though - they've got landrovers)
last year they took 3 weeks to get round to some of these roads and a few never got anything at all...
The worst bit I had to deal with every other day was hard packed icy stuff (untreated) on 1 in 3, with an 'S' bend, over narrow bridge
with no sides crossing a burn (aka 'stream' for those south of the border) - that was a bit interesting some days!
I did get there last year, but another 1" of snow and I'd have been stuffed on some bits, so I expect these will live in my boot untill
I'm really desperate
cherrs all for the input
-Robert
(I've ordered a set btw - will let you know how I get on)
[Edited on 8/12/2011 by mcerd1]
Robert - The chains fit your requirements perfectly, fingers crossed the white stuff doesnt come like it did last year.
Plague of frogs here today, horrendous rain shower just gone through Northumberland.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 8/12/11 at 12:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by T66
...fingers crossed the white stuff doesnt come like it did last year.
I'm hoping its even worse - that way I'll get my moneys worth
quote:
Originally posted by T66
Plague of frogs here today, horrendous rain shower just gone through Northumberland.
same up here, but its gone already - the rain/clouds went past at about 80mph
[Edited on 8/12/2011 by mcerd1]
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