wombat
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:21 PM |
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Early MOT question
Hi,
Daughter bought her first car a 1.3KA 2003, MOT runs out in November.
I thought it would be a good idea to get it MOTd before she starts driving it (19th August) so i know its safe to use.
It failed on a couple of minor things but the kicker was the exhaust below the Cat which is not cheap to replace (gutted I didnt spot it)
Question is -
Are we still legal with the MOT that runs out in November or are we stuffed because it is now on record ??
Bill
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loggyboy
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wombat
Hi,
Daughter bought her first car a 1.3KA 2003, MOT runs out in November.
I thought it would be a good idea to get it MOTd before she starts driving it (19th August) so i know its safe to use.
It failed on a couple of minor things but the kicker was the exhaust below the Cat which is not cheap to replace (gutted I didnt spot it)
Question is -
Are we still legal with the MOT that runs out in November or are we stuffed because it is now on record ??
Bill
Technically you should not be using the car. However im not sure if it would come up on the police computer as being without an MoT, I would expect it
would so you have indeed stuffed yourself!
Mistral Motorsport
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ReMan
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:28 PM |
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I suspect stuffed yourself, as it's too early for the current MOT (1 Month?) so it will ahve re-started the MOT clock as now
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blakep82
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:35 PM |
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if you'd asked for a 'pre-mot' inspection then i suspect you'd be ok, but if you have been given an official failure sheet,
then you've had it
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adithorp
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:51 PM |
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Don't know where you stand to be honest but why not check te MOT on-line with VOSA? That'll tell you whether it has a current MOT.
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http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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ChrisW
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:53 PM |
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Remember that not having an MOT certificate and having an unroadworthly vehicle are two different offenses.
Having been given an inspection and been advised that there are faults with the car I'd argue that you were committing an offense if you were to
drive it as you were clearly aware of the situation and chose to ignore it.
However, check carefully on what it's failed the MOT on. Another stupid thing about UK road traffic law is that the Construction and Use
regulations which specify whether a car is roadworthy are not the same as the MOT legislation. In other words, a car can fail and MOT but not
be in contravention of C&U and therefore still be roadworthy (or vice versa of course). If this is the case I'd argue that your existing
MOT certificate is valid until it's expiry date.
I've no idea what would show up on the computerised MOT check now you've had a failure, but another point to note is that just because the
'computer says no' doesn't mean 'the law says no'. You have a certificate which was properly issued and valid until the
expiry date and my opinion it would be difficult to argue that this certificate was invalidated by the second test.
Of course, if whatever is wrong with the car is a contravention of Construction and Use then it's an offense to drive it regardless of whether
it has an MOT or not.
Disclaimer: I'm not a solicitor and this is not legal advice but merely the opinion of a person with some knowledge of law.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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britishtrident
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:59 PM |
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You can't un-MOT a car it still has valid MOT certificate. which is what the law requires.
Is it the exhaust before or after the cat ? either way Ka exhaust aren't exactly expensive or difficult to fit.
You didn't by any chance get it tested at a fast fit chain ? in my experience they always manage to fail cars on things they sell such as
exhausts and only rare things they don't sell.
[Edited on 6/8/12 by britishtrident]
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wombat
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 12:59 PM |
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Thought as much - Bugger
Oh well at least car is safe to drive and that was the main objective + I dont have to crawl under the car in freezing November !
Ta
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Macbeast
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 02:05 PM |
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But is it safe to drive ?
Is the exhaust blowing sending fumes into the car while stationary ?
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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wombat
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 03:07 PM |
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Thx guys.
Basically the cat on these is a bit weird, its like a manifold with the cat built on the bottom with a short solid pipe (a metre or so) to a 150mm
flexi to flange for the centre section.
The flexi is blowing out but you cant buy just this part.
No fumes can be smelt at all.
Quote for replacement from www.catman.co.uk is:-
FD1070 MANIFOLDCAT
£165.85 (new)
£115.85 (used)
+£12pp
Any ideas on a locost solution?
Sleeve over top
Wrap repair
Would just like to spread the cost for her really, Daddy not paying, he got a kit to build !!
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 03:41 PM |
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Not possible to get a new flexi and weld it in place?
EDIT
what about this?
FE936H FORD KA 1.6 Exhaust Flexible Pipe | eBay
[Edited on 6/8/12 by cliftyhanger]
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jabs
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 05:16 PM |
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That's what I did, just cut and weld in a new flexi
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snapper
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| posted on 6/8/12 at 06:14 PM |
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I replaced the 90 degree down pipe on a Mondeo which had a flexi section with a bit from Motor parts direct, it was £25, needed some bodging to fit
but passed mot
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