cossiebri
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| posted on 21/2/11 at 10:03 PM |
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Two wheels 
If it doesn't fit MODIFY it!!
Cheers BriF
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franky
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| posted on 21/2/11 at 10:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chris mason
Franky, with the m3 power you'll breeze it, My old s2000 powered Mk indy did 110mph in 12.1 and went through the 1/8 trap at 92mph in 7.7
seconds, so i'd say 230bhp in a cec is enough to do 100mph in 10 seconds
My current car takes approx 500bhp to do it, but then it does weigh just shy of 2 ton
[Edited on 21/2/11 by chris mason]
2002ish RS6 by any chance!? Shame they never put a manual box in them!
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Benzine
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| posted on 21/2/11 at 10:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cossiebri
Two wheels
Can't see it myself!
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 09:20 AM |
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To bump an old thread....
I had a chance for a run on an old runway yesterday at Swinderby, at the time it was a one off run against this
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/255590/ although it was running a little more bhp than listed(550bhp). An awesome properly fast
car. Oh 285 rear's and launch control on it too!
We had one run on a very poor surface. The good news is that it was left for dead and managed a 0-100 in 8.0 
By using more revs and a little practice on a decent surface a 7.something should be quite easy to do. Just trying to work out how to convert the vid
and edit it down now.
So kitcars 1 super cars 0
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 09:37 AM |
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Designing and Building Special Cars | eBay book has loads of maths to calculate such stuff, it is a good read too - no
connection with me though
There are 4 on ebay at the moment, ranging from £3.48 to £38
[Edited on 24/9/11 by Mark Allanson]
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 10:01 AM |
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I might have a look for one.
The above figures are data(gps) logged though so I know they're correct.
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Antnicuk
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 10:21 AM |
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it would be interesting to know what 1/4 mile times these cars that can do 7 seconds - 100 would have. You also know its measure properly that way
600 BHP per ton, Stylus Brought back from the dead! Turbo Rotary Powered!
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 10:32 AM |
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I don't think it'll do a 7.0 with me in it using road legal rubber.
Vid link is below, you can see just before my specs came off I had lifted off and its a good 5 seconds still till it went past. Good to see what our
little cars will do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRJOPNOiZaM
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SausageArm
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 12:55 PM |
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quote:
Did you test it properly 0-100? Its got me thinking of what mine might be like too.
Me too.
I'd imagine my Mac#1 Worx shoudl be able to do it in 10 seconds, it has 297bhp/132.5lbft @ wheels, weighs around 450kg, will do 137mph on the
limiter in 6th.
Would be nice to know for sure, will find out once i've sorted the clutch issue out.
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bmseven
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 01:10 PM |
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Torquestats have a fair few figures
R500
Year Introduced 2009
Kerb Weight 506kg
Engine Type Straight 4
Valves 16 valve
Cylinders 4 cylinder
Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
Displacement 1999cc
Fuel Petrol
Drive RWD
Transmission 6 speed Manual
Engine Location Front Mounted
BHP 263 @ 8500rpm
Torque (lbs/ft) 177 @ 7200rpm
BHP/Ton 528
0-60mph 2.9s
0-100mph 7s
60-100mph 4.1s
1/4 Mile 11.58s
Terminal Speed 119mph
Kilometre N/A
Top Speed (mph) 150
Nürburgring N/A
BMW 7 Resource
Bures Pit anyone?
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 01:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bmseven
Torquestats have a fair few figures
R500
Year Introduced 2009
Kerb Weight 506kg
Engine Type Straight 4
Valves 16 valve
Cylinders 4 cylinder
Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
Displacement 1999cc
Fuel Petrol
Drive RWD
Transmission 6 speed Manual
Engine Location Front Mounted
BHP 263 @ 8500rpm
Torque (lbs/ft) 177 @ 7200rpm
BHP/Ton 528
0-60mph 2.9s
0-100mph 7s
60-100mph 4.1s
1/4 Mile 11.58s
Terminal Speed 119mph
Kilometre N/A
Top Speed (mph) 150
Nürburgring N/A
That's a generated time, caterham list it at 8.1(flat shifting with a sequential box with the car set up for it).
If you've 297bhp at the wheels in a genuine 430kg car it should be bloody quick if you can put the power down. Its lighter and more powerful
than my car.
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bmseven
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 02:29 PM |
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There are real cars times in the modified section including a lovely Evo with 0-100 in 4.3 seconds
Modified cars 0-100 times
BMW 7 Resource
Bures Pit anyone?
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T66
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 03:42 PM |
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With my Fiat Im looking to make 300bhp and around 600kg.
Nat/Cal reckon it will be good for sub 3 secs to 60mph, I was banking on about 7.5s to 100.
This article caught my eye recently, 0-60 @2.6s with 0-100 @6.2s with 280bhp
http://www.minimag.co.uk/2010/12/13/monster-machine-z-cars-special-with-supercar-performance/
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 05:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by T66
With my Fiat Im looking to make 300bhp and around 600kg.
Nat/Cal reckon it will be good for sub 3 secs to 60mph, I was banking on about 7.5s to 100.
This article caught my eye recently, 0-60 @2.6s with 0-100 @6.2s with 280bhp
http://www.minimag.co.uk/2010/12/13/monster-machine-z-cars-special-with-supercar-performance/
If you're rear/mid engined that should help, along with a dedicated setup. Your car looks much better than the mini though
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 07:14 PM |
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A rocket?
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T66
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 07:26 PM |
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Thanks for that - Its now sporting a Quaife Powertec back axle from (MydT9)s Darrian Blackbird.
The secret sock budget is well and truly bashed, and I have a big mortgage again so I officially become a true Locoster from now on....
The Zcars Mini Monte Carlos are very nice to look at, always liked the big arched rallycross look.
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 07:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by T66
Thanks for that - Its now sporting a Quaife Powertec back axle from (MydT9)s Darrian Blackbird.
The secret sock budget is well and truly bashed, and I have a big mortgage again so I officially become a true Locoster from now on....
The Zcars Mini Monte Carlos are very nice to look at, always liked the big arched rallycross look.
They do look nice but a very common look/car now(in relative terms!). Your's isn't which is the best part.
What sort of build cost are you looking at?
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daniel mason
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 07:56 PM |
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Hi chris Mason! Are you sure you posted correct on this thread? If you were at 92mph in 7.7 how come it took another 5 to get to 110?
Also if you think 230 bhp will do it in under 10. What power did your s2000 make to do it in 12.1 to 110? Or is there a big gap between 100 and 110
mph?
If you could clarify this it would be great as I'm currently building an s2000 engined mnr and was hoping for under 10 secs. Cheers chris
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
Hi chris Mason! Are you sure you posted correct on this thread? If you were at 92mph in 7.7 how come it took another 5 to get to 110?
Also if you think 230 bhp will do it in under 10. What power did your s2000 make to do it in 12.1 to 110? Or is there a big gap between 100 and 110
mph?
If you could clarify this it would be great as I'm currently building an s2000 engined mnr and was hoping for under 10 secs. Cheers chris
You should be well under 10.
I guess it depends on diff ratio's and number of gear changes too. I can hit it in 3rd which helps, 4th to about 130ish then 5th to a geared
160ish.
How's the build coming along? Found that bucket of motivation yet?
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beaver34
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:16 PM |
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Watched the vid, goes well!
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Antnicuk
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:21 PM |
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it is interesting to see the R500's times. I was looking at my 1/4 mile slips from santa pod when i first built the car and i was hitting 96mph
at the 1/8 in 7.5 seconds. Yet i went past an R500 on the straight at woodbridge without any problem at all. I had 300 hp at the time but as its
turbo charged, i had more torque and better aero, So i think those figures are a little optimistic in a real world test
600 BHP per ton, Stylus Brought back from the dead! Turbo Rotary Powered!
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franky
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
Watched the vid, goes well!
Cheers, when I man up a little I'll have another go at it with a helmet on and use the last 1000rpm. Wiring in the full throttle shift should
help save a little too.
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chris mason
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
Hi chris Mason! Are you sure you posted correct on this thread? If you were at 92mph in 7.7 how come it took another 5 to get to 110?
Also if you think 230 bhp will do it in under 10. What power did your s2000 make to do it in 12.1 to 110? Or is there a big gap between 100 and 110
mph?
If you could clarify this it would be great as I'm currently building an s2000 engined mnr and was hoping for under 10 secs. Cheers chris
Figures are correct Daniel, the 7 shape is far from being efficient when it comes to Aerodymanics, you need a lot more than 230bhp if you want to be
accelerating really quick above 100mph, on the same day another indy with 350bhp went through the 1/8 in a similar time and speed, but hit a terminal
speed of 116mph by the 1/4.
What also doesn't help is gear change at circa 9k in 4th 105mph in to 5th so in the last 4.4 seconds (not 5) it accelerated 18mph and changed
gear once. This would compare with your average performance tin tops 50-70 second time, so it's not slow by any means.
My old RS6 would go through the 1/8 slightly slower but terminal the 1/4 slightly higher, yet it weighed 3x the indy and only had just over twice the
power.
I would think (could be wrong here) but the MNR nose cone has a far larger surface area than an Indy, so would imagine that the 1/4 terminal could be
slightly lower.
It's probably fair too assume that the 0-100mph of the car on that particular run, would've been circa 9.5 seconds of thereabouts.
Edited to add figures, it made 229bhp on the rollers, but where it gained was from just under 4000rpm through to around 6500rpm where it made on
average 33bhp more than the stock s2000s do.
[Edited on 24/9/11 by chris mason]
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beaver34
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by franky
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
Watched the vid, goes well!
Cheers, when I man up a little I'll have another go at it with a helmet on and use the last 1000rpm. Wiring in the full throttle shift should
help save a little too.
Yeah, more revs from start too? I had to be above 5k in mine to get away properly quick,
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daniel mason
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:37 PM |
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Thanks chris. Useful info there! How does the r500 manage to do it so quick then in around 7.5 -8 seconds with similar power? I suppose they are a
fair bit lighter than my mnr. also what diff did you run on your Indy? I'm using the 4.1:1 from the Honda with 13" r500 wheels and
a048's
Franky my motivation started to come back today when I fitted my stack oil pressure gauge and collected my modified drive shafts from Honda diff to
sierra outers! So might get to take it for a litte private road drive tomorrow!
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