daniel mason
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:09 PM |
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He's not with his (ex) girlfriend anymore. so probably is feeling terrible like any human would.
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RK
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:24 PM |
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I'm having trouble shedding that tear...
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
You have to imagine the curve is a straight. If Hamilton has his car a decent way along side (which he did) and Massa was aware of his presence (which
he was), and you dont HAVE to take the racing line (which mass tried too), then you have to view it that Massa effectively moved in to the side of
Hamilton. These cars will go round bends of different radi!
I disagree, these guys are racing at the limits so for a given corner entry speed, there is only a small window in terms of racing line between a line
which will work and one which will spit you out into the gravel either on that corner or the next one. Brundle and DC said that that part of the track
was one car at a time and that Hamilton knows this better than he does. That was the lap before he crashed. Massa had already broken one car by going
off line on one of those corners and shortly afterwards broke another car. There is no room for two cars to run through side by side at normal speed
and the car in front shouldn't have to lift off as this is even more likely to end in tears.
I disgree, is that your experience from driving F1 2012 on the Xbox so how did Webber and Alonso get though Eau rouge together? Alonso altered his
line mid corner. Sadly Massa would rather have an accident than concede a place to Hamilton
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craig1410
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:31 PM |
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I'm sure he can do so much better than Ms Sherzinger (or however you spell it...)
Does anyone remember when Martin Brundle first spoke to her on the grid walk at a race a while back? She just giggled and talked nonsense the whole
(thankfully short) time he was talking to her. Complete air head... Martin walked away with that raised-eyebrow look on his face which said it all.
Then you see her (over)reacting to events on the track for the benefit of the camera which she knows is watching her. Amateur dramatics to say the
least!
Then you see Jessica Michibata and how relaxed and happy she is and not bothered about the fact she's not wearing make-up or fancy clothes etc.
Just there to have fun and support her man. A real soulmate and way way prettier and fitter than Nicole Sherzinger.
I think a lot of Hamilton's problems this year have been caused by seeing how comfortable Jenson is within the team. And he's been getting
the results as well. He's got his Dad, his girlfriend and the clear support of the team. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hamilton disappear
off to Red Bull to replace Webber in 2013. Might be a good move for him too.
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craig1410
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
I disgree, is that your experience from driving F1 2012 on the Xbox so how did Webber and Alonso get though Eau rouge together? Alonso altered his
line mid corner. Sadly Massa would rather have an accident than concede a place to Hamilton
Karting actually. 
You make my point very well, thanks - Webber and Alonso are much classier drivers than either Hamilton or Massa. Hamilton's the crash-kid not
Massa.
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
I disgree, is that your experience from driving F1 2012 on the Xbox so how did Webber and Alonso get though Eau rouge together? Alonso altered his
line mid corner. Sadly Massa would rather have an accident than concede a place to Hamilton
Karting actually.
You make my point very well, thanks - Webber and Alonso are much classier drivers than either Hamilton or Massa. Hamilton's the crash-kid not
Massa.
But your point was the cars can't alter the line mid corner, so now it depends on the driver, Lewis didn't need to alter his line though
did he!
Oh so what happened after Karting? didn't you like racing togther through the corners on proper circuits
[Edited on 30/10/11 by Johneturbo]
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craig1410
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
I disgree, is that your experience from driving F1 2012 on the Xbox so how did Webber and Alonso get though Eau rouge together? Alonso altered his
line mid corner. Sadly Massa would rather have an accident than concede a place to Hamilton
Karting actually.
You make my point very well, thanks - Webber and Alonso are much classier drivers than either Hamilton or Massa. Hamilton's the crash-kid not
Massa.
Oh so what happened after Karting? didn't you like racing togther through the corners on proper circuits
Family life happened...no complaints though. I'm still pretty handy in a kart...
I remember a guy I used to work with - he was a real boy racer and travelled the same piece of road to work as me. Sometimes we would have a little
race together but I would always back off when it started to get dangerous. On that basis he thought he was the better driver. Then we raced karts one
day and I lapped him twice in 32 laps. When I was younger I probably raced on the road with that same ferocity but as you get older you see how easily
it can go wrong. On the track is a different matter though.
I've never driven an F1 car and probably never will but I like to think that a fast kart is pretty close in terms of the racing side of things
albeit diluted down somewhat. I guess that's why most top F1 drivers came up through karting and still do it regularly.
[Edited on 30/10/2011 by craig1410]
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 30/10/11 at 11:48 PM |
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Yep i know what you mean, other things take over, that's why after 2 seasons of club racing, i just do the odd trackday now
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skodaman
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 01:49 AM |
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' Sadly Massa would rather have an accident than concede a place to Hamilton' True which is probably the real reason why they decided to
punish Massa for a change. I called the family in to watch as soon as Hamilton got close to Massa cos contact was inevitable. Massa has problems
accepting that Hamilton is faster than him therefore always tries to drive Lewis off the track. Mind you all this started with Lewis'
particularly brainless attempt at an overtake at Monaco I think.
Skodaman
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designer
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 05:52 AM |
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quote:
Ms Sherzinger
She's famous over here now, no need for Lewis anymore, he should have seen it coming.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 07:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
I disgree, is that your experience from driving F1 2012 on the Xbox so how did Webber and Alonso get though Eau rouge together? Alonso altered his
line mid corner. Sadly Massa would rather have an accident than concede a place to Hamilton
Karting actually.
You make my point very well, thanks - Webber and Alonso are much classier drivers than either Hamilton or Massa. Hamilton's the crash-kid not
Massa.
I've been karting with some of the country's best (UK and European champions) in the BUKC and one thing is for sure, if a piece of track
is 3 karts wide then they will put 3 karts on it and usually not touch!
Massa had the opportunity to avoid the accident, didnt and paid for it. Simples!
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loggyboy
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 08:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
You make my point very well, thanks - Webber and Alonso are much classier drivers than either Hamilton or Massa. Hamilton's the crash-kid not
Massa.
Yeah, cuz Massa has been a stunning race driver over the last couple of years..... oh wait, no he hasnt, hes been shit. The accident in Hungary has
knocked him for 6 and he isnt as good as he was in 2009. Hes lost his edge, which unless you the pole king (Vettel) you need otherwise loose places on
track rather than gaining them. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Massa is not gaining anything at the mo because his hearts not in it anymore.
(IMO)
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Originally posted by designer
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Ms Sherzinger
She's famous over here now, no need for Lewis anymore, he should have seen it coming.
I think he dumped her cuz she wanted kids and he didnt!
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craig1410
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 08:23 AM |
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Some excellent analysis from Mark Hughes which looks spot on to me:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15524661.stm
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 08:32 AM |
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The Daily Mash website is spot-on as usual...
Daily Mash
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 09:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Some excellent analysis from Mark Hughes which looks spot on to me:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15524661.stm
Thankfuly the stewards agreee with an ex F1 driver, rather than a journo
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craig1410
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| posted on 2/11/11 at 01:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Some excellent analysis from Mark Hughes which looks spot on to me:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15524661.stm
Thankfuly the stewards agreee with an ex F1 driver, rather than a journo
Not all of them...
http://planet-f1.com/news/3213/7284630/DC-Hamilton-Got-Off-Lightly
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 2/11/11 at 02:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Some excellent analysis from Mark Hughes which looks spot on to me:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15524661.stm
Thankfuly the stewards agreee with an ex F1 driver, rather than a journo
Not all of them...
http://planet-f1.com/news/3213/7284630/DC-Hamilton-Got-Off-Lightly
Like i said thankfuly they agree with an ex F1 driver and not a commentator!
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