Tipster69
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 05:24 PM |
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Before we even consider what to build - will it work out?
Hi,
Myself and a mate have been itching to build an MK Indy / Vortx or similar (not decided on which yet, but im 6ft 2 and 18 stone so from reading the
forums these seem to be recommended).
But, before we start a build Is it likely to work out sharing a car between us, as I don't know how this would work with track days, which
would be our primarily intended use.
Can you take turns in driving the car at a track day or is it one car one driver?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
CHEERS.
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 05:26 PM |
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hmm, there was a post like this a few weeks back, but between 4 people. the general thing was, no, it would cause problems (who keeps the car,
who's responsible for what damage, who tows it, what happens if you don't want to do it any more, but your mate does but can't
afford to buy it etc etc)
not adviseable, but might be ok between 2 people
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Tipster69
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 05:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
hmm, there was a post like this a few weeks back, but between 4 people. the general thing was, no, it would cause problems (who keeps the car,
who's responsible for what damage, who tows it, what happens if you don't want to do it any more, but your mate does but can't
afford to buy it etc etc)
not adviseable, but might be ok between 2 people
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
The storage isn't a problem as my business partner who I would be building it with, owns a factory. It would be stored there.
We already own an old Shogun between us that we used to use to tow our boat, so that part shouldn't be a problem either.
With regards to ay damage we have agreed a system for this also.
What im not sure about is a) if the tracks will let 2 of you drive it on a track day? and if so do you have to pay twice?
Also, if they do allow it. Are we both likely to get enough time in the car? (i've never done a track day as such).
CHEERS
[Edited on 19/2/10 by Tipster69]
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 05:34 PM |
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ah, cool. sounds like you got enough things between you anyway and it works for you
as for track days, never done one, but 2 drivers shouldn't be a problem. i think it depends where you go on how they charge. i think a 2nd
driver is usually less than the first?
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YQUSTA
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 05:48 PM |
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All the track days I have looked at you can add an extra driver for a small cost (around £10)
"If in doubt flat out"
Colin McRae
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 05:52 PM |
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Mmm depends how good friends you are and how much cash each of you have. if one of you seriously damages the car on a track day who pays for the
repair?? etc etc
Could be the end of a friendship IMHO
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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meany
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 05:52 PM |
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in my experience, £10 is for a passenger only.
as for 2 drivers sharing the same car, probably best to speak to the organisers direct and see what they come up with.
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SPYDER
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 06:05 PM |
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AFAIK all trackday operators will allow a second driver, albeit for a fee.
You can go out one at a time, or both in the car together.
Most will require both drivers to turn up to the pre-event drivers briefing and for each to do some sighting laps, although these requirements can
vary.
As regards sharing the car and all it's costs, both seen and un-foreseen, I am fortunate enough to share a trackday only car with a good
friend.
We designed and built it together over a three year period. All the highs and the lows.
I have a larger actual financial stake in it but we regard it as shared, fifty-fifty.
Any future costs, including damage, will be looked upon as the same.
Although none of us has a crystal ball I cannot foresee us ever selling it as it has been a labour of love and worth more to us than it's
monetary value.
Aren't we sad.
If you already have a good relationship with your prospective share-ee ( is that a word?) then go ahead.
Trackdays are ace and well worth a little effort. Or a lot!!
Geoff.
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INDY BIRD
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 06:20 PM |
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Hi
me and my brother share both our cars a dax and a indy both turbo cars,
we use them on track and share the costs which makes it much cheaper,
The companies on track days allow additional driver or passengers in the car,
some charge for additional drivers some a free but only about 20-25 pounds normally,
we work fine together covering half the costs each for the day incl fuel and insurance etc,
you can go out together or you can go on your own, only difference is that the car gets more use as if you ad your own car it woukld get more rest
than 2 of you running if you know what i mean,
do it you wont regret it
sean
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Tipster69
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 06:38 PM |
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MANY THANKS for ALL the above replies.
I think I have heard enough to know that we will "stick to the original plan" and build and use/maintain it between us.
Are we looking in the right direction with the MK Indy / MNR Vortx as we are both "large" blokes (ok im large, my mates just fat - lol).
From reading other threads on here, these two seem to fit the bill best, have I interpreted the info correctly and/or are there any others we should
consider?
Thanks again for the info - appreciated.
CHEERS
[Edited on 19/2/10 by Tipster69]
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morcus
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 06:41 PM |
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Sounds like it will work for you guys. I would suggest you decide in writing what happens if one or both of you want to sell it and repairs and such
just incase.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 07:00 PM |
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If your size & height is thought to be a problem then there is always the Luego Viento. I'm 6'4" and about 20st. I have no
problem in the Viento. Mind you my wife tends to look a bit lost in the passenger seat.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 07:09 PM |
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Sharing cars - between the right people is a fine idea.
I've done it a few times with my brother.
On a bigger spending level altogether, top level hillclimbing probably wouldn't exist if we didn't have double driving as a whole load of
the big single seaters have traditionally been double driven.
I know it's not the same as trackdays, but the principle is the same. Two like minded people getting together and splitting the costs.
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 09:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
Sounds like it will work for you guys. I would suggest you decide in writing what happens if one or both of you want to sell it and repairs and such
just incase.
amen to that, it covers you both. I was looking after a mates bike while he was in aus, it got written off and was a bit of a mess, as he got the pay
out and I bought the bike back on salvage retention and he thought I was swindling him... it was all ok in the end, but only cos we are both had it
all wirtten out for even the oddist eventuallity.
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 09:47 PM |
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It will be fine having a shared car...
TD organisers almost always allow a second driver.
The price for doing so ranges from:
£Free! to £35 (not heard of one dearer yet)
If you are a paid 2nd driver you can be a passenger aswell (often costs around a tenner on it's own)
You will fit absolutely fine into an Indy, Indy R or the MNR...
Do you want the car to be on the road, or just a TD car?
You could save time and money by buying a part-built, this also has the advantage of people selling cars that aren't suitable for IVA without a
lot of work (for eg- a BEC that doesn't have reverse), that would make a perfect joint project.
Cheers,
Steve
Whereabouts in the North West are you?
ps: You may actually fit in a variety of cars, you don't need a seat, you could easily both make a "expanding-foam" seat, that you
just whip out/in to suit the driver. That way, you don't have to both fit in the same size seat, and that seat doesn't have to fit in the
car...
ATB
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Tipster69
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| posted on 19/2/10 at 11:12 PM |
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Hi,
Thanks again for lengthy and informative replies, mucho appreciated.
Steve - I am nr Warrington.
CHEERS
[Edited on 19/2/10 by Tipster69]
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