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Lightning

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:18 AM Reply With Quote
Future classic investments

When i was a lad (some time ago) when browsing the Exchange and Mart you could get E-types for under £2k and De Tomaso Pantera for just over.

What sports cars would you suppose would have disproportionate price increases in the future???

Most TVR's - I'm biased
Jag XK- not so much XJS
Boxster
SLK??? -they are cheap at the moment
Z3??? -though ugly
MX5 -good but cant see them making hugh gains

Thoughts????





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franky

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:22 AM Reply With Quote
bmw z3m coupe is already going up in value as not many were made and its a raw drivers car.
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jossey

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:23 AM Reply With Quote
TVRs i guess would be a safe bet. although after owning a few i notice that they are more useful for keeping an area of the drive drive or the garage full.

maybe the 3 series e30 to add to your list.

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Mad Dave

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:33 AM Reply With Quote
What about the RS4 B5?



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MK9R

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:43 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by franky
bmw z3m coupe is already going up in value as not many were made and its a raw drivers car.


my mate bought one 12 months ago fo £11,500, it turned out to be one of the last ones with the e46 m3 engine fitted of only 168 were made, he now has it up for sale fo £17k!!

RS focus
Austen/rover mini??
RS4 - any shape
s1 elise
964 have stopped depreciating, i wonder if the 996 will, doubt it, but maybe a GT3 RS version would be ok





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907

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:44 AM Reply With Quote
Ahem!
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Caterham

Ducks for cover

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David Jenkins

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:51 AM Reply With Quote
Naughty....






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chrsgrain

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:54 AM Reply With Quote
I think that the Sierra Cosworth will be future classic, so a good one now would be worth hanging on to.... Also, strangely enough, possibly a first edition Prius, just because they were the first of a class of car?

Chris





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MK9R

posted on 14/7/10 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by chrsgrain
Also, strangely enough, possibly a first edition Prius, just because they were the first of a class of car?

Chris


does that mean i should go out and buy as many mkI renault espaces as possible??





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loggyboy

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
I think that the Sierra Cosworth will be future classic, so a good one now would be worth hanging on to.... Also, strangely enough, possibly a first edition Prius, just because they were the first of a class of car?

Chris


I think the cossie is already there, they are several thousand pounds plus for a 20yr old ford, so must be considered to be a classic already.

Renault Avantime will be a rare one to look out for.

Hot hatches are a safe bet:
Clio v6, xr2(i) mk2 and 3, Nova sport, clio williams, 205 gti.

[Edited on 14/7/10 by loggyboy]

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nick205

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
Also, strangely enough, possibly a first edition Prius, just because they were the first of a class of car?

Chris


does that mean i should go out and buy as many mkI renault espaces as possible??



Only if you want us to join you in a TG style 1 make race series






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dinosaurjuice

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:05 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
Also, strangely enough, possibly a first edition Prius, just because they were the first of a class of car?

Chris


does that mean i should go out and buy as many mkI renault espaces as possible??



Only if you want us to join you in a TG style 1 make race series


well up for that!

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martinq357

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:06 PM Reply With Quote
I know they're very common at the moment, but I'd always thought a nice, original, unmolested Mk1 Audi TT would be a good bet.

They're now falling into the Chav price bracket and I've already seen a couple of howlers.....

Give it 10-15 years and they'll probably be quite sought after.

Just a thought.

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55ant

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:20 PM Reply With Quote
capri is pn the up, a couple of years a go they where cheap as chips, fords are a safe bet really, id go with the first focus rs, loads of parts to keep them going but quite rareish, also the racing puma, still thats about 4.5k minimum.

Id hope the celica gt4 would be as they are silly money for something that does 0-60 in 5.1 standered. as are the mk2 mr2 turbo's.





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Stott

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:32 PM Reply With Quote
All the ford Cossies are there, you need about £14k to even look at an escort and then they are rough. The saphs seem to start at 4k for a dog but £15k for concourse and the 3 doors are like £25-£30k for a concourse one!

Also the E30 3 dr beemers are already going up - a lot. You could get 318is's for £500 all day and they were tidy, now you see mint ish ones for more like £1500-£2000 and 325 sports are £5k plus. They are todays mk2 escort on the night rally scene (318is - 4cyl rule), going up in popularity and unfortunately price too.

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StevieB

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
The problem with the cars suggested (Z3, MX5 etc.) is that they sold in sufficient numbers to make them common and they’re well enough build to make sure there's plenty of them around in reasonable order. What you need is something that is rare and also self eliminating - IE they break and rot themselves into being a rarity (hence why a good lancia is worth a reasonable sum). TVR is probably the way to go on that basis.
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02GF74

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lightning
Boxster
SLK??? -they are cheap at the moment
Z3??? -though ugly




Boxster, been looking at autotrader, 6 yr olds going round 15 k so cheap, can't figure out why a similar 911 is 10 k more .... but boxster could well be a classic.

having said that, there is something about today's culture that does not seem to want to keep old cars going, look around you, how many cars over 5 yrs do you see, or over 10 or even 15 years?

Very few, Peeps have got more cash than they did when you were a yoof plus in real terms, I bet cars are lot cheparer too plus they aren't designed for the DIY mechanic like they used to be (were less complicated).

I'd like to think volvo 850 T5 and 850 R will be future classics.






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Irony

posted on 14/7/10 at 12:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
The problem with the cars suggested (Z3, MX5 etc.) is that they sold in sufficient numbers to make them common and they’re well enough build to make sure there's plenty of them around in reasonable order. What you need is something that is rare and also self eliminating - IE they break and rot themselves into being a rarity (hence why a good lancia is worth a reasonable sum). TVR is probably the way to go on that basis.


I totally agree with the above. You need something that people know and loved when they were younger. So that means quite common, some pedigree and they need to become quite rare. Just look at the mark 1 escort nowadays. Give it 5 years TVR's will go at a snip. Restore them and garage them for 15 years and you'll make cash. I doubt its a way to make cash however......bit like my car






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smart51

posted on 14/7/10 at 01:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lightning
how many cars over 5 yrs do you see, or over 10 or even 15 years?


Over 5? Loads. Over 10? a few. Over 15? not many. Isn't that "normal"?

I bought a Suzuki Cappuccino last year for £4,000 (it was mint and very low mileage) when Practical Classics were suggesting £3750 for a grade 1 car. This month, they've revised the price down to £3,000. Typical. It has all the ingredients though. Rare, good looking, RWD, quite quick for the time (0-60 in 9 seconds was GTi acceleration in the early 90s) and it is a hard top convertible. Because untreated cars have problems with rust, I'd have thought minters would hold their value well. Still, I've always wanted one and now I've got one.






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55ant

posted on 14/7/10 at 01:02 PM Reply With Quote
s2000? people seem to crash them a lot,

mazda rx8?

all toyota's with a dodgy accelerator

Lada Niva

corsa c 1.8 sri.





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MK9R

posted on 14/7/10 at 01:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 55ant

Lada Niva





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scootz

posted on 14/7/10 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
VW Corrado VR6 Storm
BMW Z3M Coupe
Lotus 340R





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franky

posted on 14/7/10 at 01:32 PM Reply With Quote
glad we all agree on the z3m coupe! only limited numbers around and on my find the cash to buy list!
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Lightning

posted on 14/7/10 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
Whilst I agree with many of the cars above, I dont think that hardly any of them will make such massive gains. MX5 etc too many. On second thoughts TVR's I think should make only reasonable gains, but at the end of the day they are glorified Kit cars. TVR owners will hate that, but its true.
Esprits should do well as they are quite cheap at the moment.





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iank

posted on 14/7/10 at 01:45 PM Reply With Quote
"Regular" classic's of the future will probably include.

Lotus Elise, Exige, VX220 maybe the Esprit.
MX5 will be the MGB of a future classic scene.
Smart, definitely the Roadster, maybe the 2 seater shortie.
MINI should make it.
EVO's and Impreza's
BMW M cars (regular 3/5 series I'm not so sure about).
Morgan's
Last of the proper Saab's?

Doubt much that spends any time unloved will survive.





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