Jon Ison
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 11:04 AM |
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i know its an English trait
To moan about the weather but........................
Done lots of little jobs on the car over winter and a few big ones, I have serious "track day withdrawal symptoms" but just dare not book
anything, every 10 day forecast I look at rain, rain rain, under the mother of all thunderstorms as I write this 
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twybrow
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 11:07 AM |
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Stop waiting, and just get some waterproofs and head on out. I did a trackday in mine recently, and it was like a ice-rink there was so much standing
water... But this presented a challenge, and new feel for the car, as it was sliding at more than 100mph in a straight line! Stop waiting for the
British summer, and instead, go with whatever the weather throws at you!
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 11:17 AM |
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No thanks, having driven in severe wet conditions and seen the consequence of aquaplaning I would rather sit it out, its dangerous for no sensible
reason I can think of and no fun, ta.
[Edited on 28/6/12 by Jon Ison]
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Wadders
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 11:32 AM |
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I'll second that, although i do remember you passing me at speed at very wet mallory John......i blame the worn out 888's for my
lack of progress....wasn't in the least bit chicken 
As for aquaplaning, i tried that at york raceway, and did a very crowd pleasing 80mph mega weave followed by a double 360 pirouette, luckily for once
the other lane was empty 
No chance of catching it, happened in a heartbeat.........very sobering  Wet tracks suck, unless you have wets on
Al.
Originally posted by Jon Ison
No thanks, having driven in severe wet conditions and seen the consequence of aquaplaning I would rather sit it out, its dangerous for no sensible
reason I can think of and no fun, ta.
[Edited on 28/6/12 by Jon Ison]
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 11:45 AM |
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We where on 888's at the time, albeit new ones, if anyone wants to assess how wet it was that Steve Higgnet as some good pics, 3 hours of a 6
hours endurance event torrential rain leaving huge "rooster tails" behind
At Cadwell last summer the heavens opened up, a brave soul in a very expensive looking Clio passed me on the main straight as I backed off and waved
him though, ? I spent the next few hundred yards dodging the debris of his written off car
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bi22le
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 11:58 AM |
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A good friend of mine that is heavily into bikes and track days said that you cant ride unless you can ace the wet.
well, he is still alive and a better rider for it. I do agree though, you will find the limits of the car a lot easier and learn how to control slides
and such like in the wet faster than in the dry. Thats what skid pans + water are for. Our cars are very fast especially in the dry. I like the idea
of keeping to slower speeds to learn before attacking fast corners at 100mph.
So, get some wets, grow some balls and book a day up. Who knows it may be dry and gorgous.
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/13/viewthread.php?tid=139152&page=1
Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 12:00 PM |
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Mine were also 888's Al, only I was in the middle - your's were worn, Jon's were new and Mine were about half way down.
I couldn't believe how much grip I had with worn 888's in torrential rain!!!
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RK
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 12:04 PM |
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I know this is weird, but I would trade rain for 35 degrees and high humidity, replaced by freezing temps and snow in winter, ANY TIME!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 12:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
......will find the limits of the car a lot easier and learn how to control slides and such like in the wet faster than in the dry. Thats what skid
pans + water are for....
I second that
its how I learnt to control FWD tin-tops (you should try a mk1 fiesta in the wet on 12" budget tyres - its a whole world of understear at any
more than 10mph )
and I'm looking forward to learnig all over again when ever I actually get the rush built.......
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 12:55 PM |
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Sorry have to agree to disagree, I see no fun in driving around Cadwell 6 foot from the wall in torrential rain, wet/damp yes, aquaplaning on full
wets no, sorry.
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Westy1994
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 01:18 PM |
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I have to admit when I was a lot younger to making a point of taking my car out in the snow, finding a nice quiet area and practice my slide recovery
and slide avoidance techniques, however being a bit older I can't see me doing that now. I guess its an age thing and what you want to get out
of driving.
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Jasper
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 01:55 PM |
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Jon, I seem to remember you taking me round Donny in the damp in the original Isonblade about 12 years ago, sideways around every corner and loving
it! Oh yes, I still remember it.
I think you're just getting old..... 
Took the Focus ST3 round Brands in the wet a few weeks ago and had a brilliant time - mind you it did dry up halfway through the session.
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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owelly
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 02:08 PM |
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I would say stop being a fanny and get out there. It's only a bit of water. However, after tip-toeing around Mallory a few weeks ago, in the
pouring rain, I can see why you don't want to be playing in the rain! For me, I couldn't drive fast because it was too slippy. Even gentle
accellerating ended in 4th gear wheel spin. I was taking corners at walking pace and sill losing control. It would have been a different matter if
there was just me on the track but there was a track full of tin tops, race cars, and anything else you can think of, and I was getting in their way
so after 4 laps (of a 15 minute session) I came in and drank coffee. It dried up later in the day so I still had fun.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 02:41 PM |
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Think I'm been misunderstood a little here, I'm talking standing water that will see you aquaplaning off not a bit o drizzle.
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Andy D
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 03:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
Think I'm been misunderstood a little here, I'm talking standing water that will see you aquaplaning off not a bit o drizzle.
I agree with what you're saying Jon. I've done a very wet Cadwell day, so wet they had to shut half the circuit... can't say it was
that enjoyable.
On the other hand, I did an absolutely soaking-wet-never-stopped-raining-all-day trackday at Cottesmore last year, and dressed accordingly, it was
an absolute hoot! aquaplaning an' all. I'd even go as far as saying the rain made it more enjoyable.
5pm in County Durham it is thundering, with torrential rain and hail now!
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Hellfire
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| posted on 28/6/12 at 05:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
......i blame the worn out 888's for my
lack of progress....wasn't in the least bit chicken
You told me they were brand new Al!! I put my faith in them tyres and that must be why we spun out at Gerrards on the first lap. I remember
how wet it was that day.... I was soaked through to the skin and sat in my car trying to dry out during the lunch break, in two minds whether to carry
on in the afternoon or not. Glad I did in the end because the afternoon session dried out a bit and the rest of the day was great......
Phil
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