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Relph - 21/7/09 at 09:35 PM

Hi, im new to this forum and the kit car scene but am looking to build a car very soon. Already have afew doner parts and a fireblade engine all reconditioned and ready to go. Had a look around the websites and went to the newark show and have narrowed it down to afew manufacturers. Tiger, MK and MNR seem to be good quality kits and reasonable money but what are your opinions on these kits ?
Any help would be great, cheers.


omega0684 - 21/7/09 at 09:41 PM

mk or mnr, flip a coin! there both good but i like the nose more on the MNR

welcome to the forum.


daniel mason - 21/7/09 at 09:42 PM

i cant comment on two of them but the mnr is very good quality indeed. and the help given by marc and chris nordon is simply brilliant!


bassett - 21/7/09 at 09:43 PM

I visited all three and went for MNR. I think MK have closed the gap on MNR with the Indy R but for me Tiger was no where near. I like the car(tiger six) i test drove but they seemed very expensive all in. Be careful about buying now and read up fully on IVA before you do anything as it will affect your build and ive heard the odd story of builders having difficulties not with the requirements but the inspectors individual interpretations of the new rules


mookaloid - 21/7/09 at 09:43 PM

Welcome to the mad house

have a search about this topic has been done lots and there is some interesting stuff to read.

Good luck with your build

Cheers

Mark


GeorgeM - 21/7/09 at 09:47 PM

another biased owner

GeorgeM


ReMan - 21/7/09 at 09:49 PM

Don't forget MAC#1 too, same but different


eccsmk - 21/7/09 at 10:04 PM

i think to be fair the manufacturers all make decent cars and it normally comes down to which you prefer.

best bet is to take the time to visit all of them and make a decission after that
HTH


and welcome to locostbuilders !!


oldtimer - 22/7/09 at 07:03 AM

I don't have one, but, don't forget the Raw Striker.


Bluemoon - 22/7/09 at 07:54 AM

It's usefull to choose one local to you; you can pop in if needed for bits advice ect..

Dan


DarrenW - 22/7/09 at 08:17 AM

As you are in Notts area it should be possible to visit MK, Mac#1 and MNR very easily either in one day or over 2 saturdays. I would strongly recommend you visitting the factories and getting a good feel for the people and products.


richardh - 22/7/09 at 08:27 AM

another biased owner.
i looked at tiger and mk and went straight for the mnr.

hadn't heard of mac at the time to be honest


procomp - 22/7/09 at 08:44 AM

Hi

There's also others such as ARIES RAW and WESTFIELD. All of wich have far better handling and credentials than any of the above.

Cheers Matt


DarrenW - 22/7/09 at 09:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

There's also others such as ARIES RAW and WESTFIELD. All of wich have far better handling and credentials than any of the above.

Cheers Matt


Not forgetting Procomp cars of course.

Choice will depend on budget i guess, but all that have been listed so far will be in same ball park ish.

Its a nightmare selecting choice of kit. So many available that share the basic looks only. In the end i just went with the one i felt happy with that i knew i could call in and talk to should i need to during the build. Mine is a road car and i dont drive fast so track performance wasnt so much of a factor.

if i was building again id forget geographical location to a point.

Job1 - decide what you want the car for and how you will use it.


procomp - 22/7/09 at 10:01 AM

Hi

You would have to seriously push me to get one at the moment. To much development on the new car and a very busy race season are consuming time like the clappers.

Cheers Matt


DarrenW - 22/7/09 at 10:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

You would have to seriously push me to get one at the moment. To much development on the new car and a very busy race season are consuming time like the clappers.

Cheers Matt



Stop posting on here then and get some work done!


Relph - 22/7/09 at 07:31 PM

Hi guys thanks for all your help. Think i am swaying slightly towards the MK indy R or the MNR vortex RT. Discounting what i have already spent on my complete engine and other small parts i was hoping to get one built for around £5000, do you think this is possible ?


DarrenW - 22/7/09 at 09:30 PM

£5000 on top of what you have already spent possibly. Depends on spec you aim for and what bling/techybitz you get tempted to buy along the way.

Dont bother setting a budget, its just one extra thing to fail on


PAUL FISHER - 23/7/09 at 12:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

You would have to seriously push me to get one at the moment. To much development on the new car and a very busy race season are consuming time like the clappers.

Cheers Matt



Thats ok then,because he could not afford to build one anyway



http://www.procomp.co.uk/lagoldspecs.html






[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]


procomp - 23/7/09 at 07:12 AM

Hi

You out and about being a complete prat again Paul. You cant even do your research before talking crap. PROCOMP LINK However given that i only realy produce cars / chassis kits for those that are serious about there handling and take there racing / track days seriously. I would point him towards an ARIES as the best all rounder road car to build on his budjet. Or a Westfield if thinking he could spend 2k more.

Cheers Matt


PAUL FISHER - 23/7/09 at 09:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

You out and about being a complete prat again Paul. You cant even do your research before talking crap. PROCOMP LINK However given that i only realy produce cars / chassis kits for those that are serious about there handling and take there racing / track days seriously. I would point him towards an ARIES as the best all rounder road car to build on his budjet. Or a Westfield if thinking he could spend 2k more.

Cheers Matt



No its you talking like a pratt again,your locost kit is nothing like the same spec as a MK Indy R, MNR or even a tiger for that matter,your LA gold is the nearest car you build to that spec,and is almost £5500
The only point you are correct on for once,is the Aries is a good handling car maybe just within his buget.
But build a westfield for £2000 more your having a laugh,more like £4000 to £5000.
So again its a case of you the guy who makes the most one of the most expensive kits on the market,giving advice to someone to buy a even more expensive kit,because they are better,well hello,they should be they cost more.
But again Ive said it before,but I am going to say it again anyway,your so fixated with racing and handling you forget most people on here are not,we,I would say 95% of us buy our MK'S and MNR'S and Mac1's and Tigers for a bit of cheap fun on the road,and some of us a few trackdays,we buy them so we enjoy building them,we like the look of them,we become part of a owners club,Ive made some good mates,we meet up at the weekends,go to shows and chin wag about our cars etc,to most of us,its not about a few seconds on a race track.


sickbag - 23/7/09 at 10:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

You would have to seriously push me to get one at the moment. To much development on the new car and a very busy race season are consuming time like the clappers.

Cheers Matt


Just out of interest - how many other kit manufacturers spend any amount of time on here, apart from Matt?

Is there a representative from MK, MNR or any of the others who we could chat to via locost Builders?


procomp - 23/7/09 at 01:55 PM

Hi Paul

You really do like to labour on this subject so much so you are starting to sound like a parrot.

So lets get a few things straight again. I am not fixated on racing and handling. I am fixated on buying a product that is actualy road worthy a product that can be assembled correctly rather than having to hammer parts in. And chassis that when built is actualy within a tolerance that is aceptable. Is it realy to much to expect that when you spend X amount of money on a chassis kit that the wheels should actualy point in a direction that is usable. Or that the bodywork actualy fits the chassis Or that the so called MSA approved roll cage passes MSA scrutineering Or that the suspension actualy moves and the geometry actualy moves in the right direction when going around a corner.

If non of the above expectation bother you then fine. But for those that think some of the above dose matter then spending a few £'s more is worth while. It just so happens that having the above expectations all working correctly also happen to be what makes the cars quicker round the circuits.

Cheers Matt


eccsmk - 23/7/09 at 02:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sickbag
quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

You would have to seriously push me to get one at the moment. To much development on the new car and a very busy race season are consuming time like the clappers.

Cheers Matt


Just out of interest - how many other kit manufacturers spend any amount of time on here, apart from Matt?

Is there a representative from MK, MNR or any of the others who we could chat to via locost Builders?


linky


RK - 24/7/09 at 03:15 AM

I'd spend whatever it takes. This rules out doing it for 5000 for sure. It will never be as cheap as a normal car, especially since there's an MGF on here for 1500. Has to be a mistake.

But if someone really wants to do it, why not go with one that is reputed to handle the best? Makes sense to me.


PAUL FISHER - 25/7/09 at 11:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi Paul

You really do like to labour on this subject so much so you are starting to sound like a parrot.

So lets get a few things straight again. I am not fixated on racing and handling. I am fixated on buying a product that is actualy road worthy a product that can be assembled correctly rather than having to hammer parts in. And chassis that when built is actualy within a tolerance that is aceptable. Is it realy to much to expect that when you spend X amount of money on a chassis kit that the wheels should actualy point in a direction that is usable. Or that the bodywork actualy fits the chassis Or that the so called MSA approved roll cage passes MSA scrutineering Or that the suspension actualy moves and the geometry actualy moves in the right direction when going around a corner.



If non of the above expectation bother you then fine. But for those that think some of the above dose matter then spending a few £'s more is worth while. It just so happens that having the above expectations all working correctly also happen to be what makes the cars quicker round the circuits.

Cheers Matt


All the above is total fabrication,all of it is just not true,again Matts in his own sad little world he must have nothing better to do,he never has any facts to back up his comments,just the usual "here say",and as always he's the only person going on about problems with other Manufacturers,1st it was MK's,then Mac1's,now MNR's and Tigers,and even Sylva Riots and every other midi the other week,we don't hear people on here who have actually built all these cars complaining about the handling or any other major build quality issues for any of the above kits,we are all very happy with our cars,there's only him harping on how shocking they all are,and because no one is taking any notice of him,he keeps going on and on about it,but why should anyone listen to him,he is in competition with them after all,so obviously his objective is to try to put off any prospective buyers,although he will tell everyone this is not the reason,but its so obvious,you only have look through your previous posts over the years,but people are wise to you now Matt,it would be akin to walking into Caterham and asking for there opinion on Westfields,you would not expect to get a unbias answer,so all I would say to any new buyer reading this thread,and thinking of buying one of the above kits,ignore Matts comments,go and look and drive all the above cars yourself,speak to people on here,who have actually built and driven these kits,and then make your own mind up.
I am not going to comment further on this thread,but just want to ensure no one is put off buying a kit of there choice,through being misinformed by Matt at Procomp.Who incidentally happens to manufacture the most expensive locost seven kit in the UK.














[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]


procomp - 27/7/09 at 08:44 AM

Hi Paul

Are you blind can you not read. Surely you are not going to say that all these people on here that are moaning about there chassis not being accurate and there geometry not being right on the cars/chassis that they have purchased from manufacturers is a load of fabrications. Are you going to accuse me of logging in under 1000's of different user names to post every question about poor quality.

Maybe you should read the forum a bit more often every point i made has been discussed ON HERE in posts not started by me. There's even people starting up businesses supplying parts to owners of one manufacturers product. Why Because the manufacturer can not be bothered to fix the problems that exists within the chassis jigs. The manufacturer even tells there customers how to ILLEGALLY bodge there car through the SVA/IVA test.

Also are you loosing your memory. I seem to recall telling you many times that i produce a Sports racing car that can be used on the road. So not really in competition with any of the manufacturers on here who produce road cars.
If i was i would hardly be on here telling people to buy road cars from manufacturers that I DO RECOMMEND.


Cheers Matt

[Edited on 27/7/09 by procomp]