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l0rd - 22/3/09 at 12:35 AM

Warm air makes the engine produce less HP.

What is the increase of HP when the car is using very very cold air.

Does anyone have a diagram?

[Edited on 22/3/09 by l0rd]


stevebubs - 22/3/09 at 12:53 AM

It's all down to air density...

Colder air is more dense than warm.

This means more air into the engine....more air means more fuel ... leads to bigger bang....


[Edited on 22/3/09 by stevebubs]


stevebubs - 22/3/09 at 01:19 AM

PS Huge oversimplification...but it is 1am Saturday night...


DIY Si - 22/3/09 at 01:27 AM

There is a percentage chart in the mini tuning book I have, but my scanner's down.
I can say though, that assuming the air enters the cylinder at 150 F/65 C, then lowering it to 100 F/38 C, you can expect a gain of roughly 5%. Remember though that it is the cylinder entry temp that matters. IE a lot of heat will be absorbed from the inlet manifold, inlet tract in the head and passing over the inlet valve itself, so having a cold feed to miles of pipe work won't have such a big effect. The theoretical maximum is 1% gain for every 3.3 C drop in temp, but you'll get maybe 50-60% of that in practice, due to the above reasons.


LBMEFM - 22/3/09 at 06:20 AM

Cold damp air is even better, more BHP on a very cold misty day. Few years back water injection was used on some high performance engines, however, it caused problems with rusty and oil emulsifying.


BenB - 22/3/09 at 09:38 AM

Water injection is still used in some high boost forced induction cars as a way of avoiding detonation.
I've never heard of rust being a problem due to water injection. The main problem from what I've read is that you actually need a fair bit of water if you're going to use enough to have a significant effect and that introduces a weight penalty...


rusty nuts - 22/3/09 at 09:58 AM

IIRC from my college days a long time ago it's all down to volumetric efficiency? . Some engines are better than others which is what you are trying to improve by tuning.


DIY Si - 22/3/09 at 10:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
IIRC from my college days a long time ago it's all down to volumetric efficiency? . Some engines are better than others which is what you are trying to improve by tuning.


It can do, but that's why I put my answer in percentage figures rather than saying it's worth 5HP, as it will depend on the engine.