i have just had a email from my mate Calvin x and it is very sad made my very angry 
to see things like this still go on today its just pure evil
wish we could make it stop some how just want you all to see what china is up to if you love pets as i do you mite not want to see this 
here is
the link http://www.peta.org/feat/ChineseFurFarms/index.asp feel very sad now
paul
I can watch most things, but that is just horrid.
That is utterly vile!
Poor little buggers
although its terrible, there are far worse things happening all over the world that we can't fix and unfortunately, with china being the the
fastest developing economy in the world and our governments wanting to be friends with them, noone will do anything about furballs.
do you think that a country that practices
THIS will think anything about animal rights.
[Edited on 26/3/10 by skinned knuckles]
That b--tard needs the same thing doing to him
I could only watch the first few seconds. Horrible cruelty. But as said, im sure there are worst things going on which need to be stopped
aswell....
seen many things online, but that is awfull.
really half the problem if not more is people buying fur.
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Originally posted by imp paul
i have just had a email from my mate Calvin x and it is very sad made my very angry
paul
, and i thought from the chinese (sic i konw sorry) whispers around here that Calvin x was the anti christ and not a lover of
soft cuddly animals who would care about their welfare 
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Originally posted by Hector.Brocklebank
jeezus thats bad
thats wrong...and to be honest there cant be much worse than that going on.
I guess it involves animal abuse... so won't watch it - just can't (and never could) watch animals being abused!
Some people(s) just need to be removed from existence!
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Originally posted by scootz
I guess it involves animal abuse... so won't watch it - just can't (and never could) watch animals being abused!
Some people(s) just need to be removed from existence!
quote:
Don't worry, I'm sure he's still a perverted psychopath, wherever he is...
) Just cos they're human beings doesn't mean they have the same values/beliefs/morals as the western world and it probably
seems unremarkable to the vast majority of the Chinese population......... which make them ultimately MUCH scarier than Al-Qaeda and the like
Bloody hell... sounds awful - and any sense of curiosity to click the link has well and truly been dispensed of! No chance!
I've had the misfortune to see all kinds of nasties involving my fellow species over a number of years... some tragic accidents, others the
results of a deliberate act of violence on each other. Without exception I was always able to approach each with a level of professionalism and do
what had to be done. Show me an animal suffering though and I will just crumble and become the most pathetic useless sod in the vicinity!
This may sound a bit odd to some, but I have more respect for animals per se than I do for my fellow humans! Years of experiencing the darker
side of 'humanity' in close detail I suppose!
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've had the misfortune to see all kinds of nasties involving my fellow species over a number of years... some tragic accidents, others the results of a deliberate act of violence on each other. Without exception I was always able to approach each with a level of professionalism and do what had to be done. Show me an animal suffering though and I will just crumble and become the most pathetic useless sod in the vicinity!
STOP BUYING GOODS MADE IN CHINA WIL ANYBODY LISTEN (NO)
If I'm entirely honest, that doensn't bother me too much, things like this happen everyday all over the world. It does suprise me that they don't bother to kill the animals before skinning though, would be more humane and make skinning easier.
I clicked the link, read the description and decided NOT to watch the video. Not nice.
Watched the first few seconds and wish i hadn't .Now i just feel angry and helpless
Have read some of the comments, so won't even look at it for a couple of seconds
I'll get all bitter & twisted i'm afraid
I see any animal cruelty and i just want to lynch the Bas***ds responsible
The chinese have always been a barbaric nation when it comes to anything bar Panda's anyway
Worked in Japan a few years ago and fell out with a few of them when they said how nice whale & dolphin meat tasted
I'm not going to watch that tbh
on the health and saftey side,
why risk getting bitten?
surely a dead animal would be easier and safer to skin.
i wonder if the camera man paid the skinner to put on a show?
on the health and saftey side,
why risk getting bitten?
surely a dead animal would be easier and safer to skin.
i wonder if the camera man paid the skinner to put on a show?
who in this day and age is even buying fur?
not seen anyone wearing it for many years so who are they selling them to? its not here
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Originally posted by andrew
STOP BUYING GOODS MADE IN CHINA WIL ANYBODY LISTEN (NO)
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Bloody hell... sounds awful - and any sense of curiosity to click the link has well and truly been dispensed of! No chance!
I've had the misfortune to see all kinds of nasties involving my fellow species over a number of years... some tragic accidents, others the results of a deliberate act of violence on each other. Without exception I was always able to approach each with a level of professionalism and do what had to be done. Show me an animal suffering though and I will just crumble and become the most pathetic useless sod in the vicinity!
This may sound a bit odd to some, but I have more respect for animals per se than I do for my fellow humans! Years of experiencing the darker side of 'humanity' in close detail I suppose!
It is hard to "do your bit" as regards something like this. Other than avoiding those products (as said above, who buys fur these days???)
what can you do? Writing to your MP is one thing I guess, donating to relevant charities is another I suppose.
BUT! There are things we can do far more directly and easily and at home!!!
And amongst all the folk who've posted saying how horrible this video is, I'm sure that next time you (or your Missus!) do your weekly shop
you won't buy anything but:
free-range eggs,
British free-range pork,
Free-range chicken and other meat,
MSC (Marine stewardship council) certified fish,
Line-caught Tuna
oh, and avoid anything containing palm oil (or those products listing palm oil as innocent sounding vegetable oil).
If you can't afford free-range British pork then atleast buy British non-freerange pork as the pork welfare standards across Europe are awful
compared to here.
My girlfriend and I do adhere to the above, yes, it costs us more (or we buy less!) but frankly I'm not will to PAY someone to torture an animal
for my eating benefit!
Cheers,
James
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Originally posted by James
It is hard to "do your bit" as regards something like this. Other than avoiding those products (as said above, who buys fur these days???) what can you do? Writing to your MP is one thing I guess, donating to relevant charities is another I suppose.
BUT! There are things we can do far more directly and easily and at home!!!
And amongst all the folk who've posted saying how horrible this video is, I'm sure that next time you (or your Missus!) do your weekly shop you won't buy anything but:
free-range eggs,
British free-range pork,
Free-range chicken and other meat,
MSC (Marine stewardship council) certified fish,
Line-caught Tuna
oh, and avoid anything containing palm oil (or those products listing palm oil as innocent sounding vegetable oil).
If you can't afford free-range British pork then atleast buy British non-freerange pork as the pork welfare standards across Europe are awful compared to here.
My girlfriend and I do adhere to the above, yes, it costs us more (or we buy less!) but frankly I'm not will to PAY someone to torture an animal for my eating benefit!
Cheers,
James
The problem surrounding making a conscious decision to avoid Palm Oil is that it's more than often not listed at all in the ingredients list...
it's just classed as vegetable Oil!
I've seen worse things but I kind of wish I hadn't watched it. It didn't really make sense, for one thing you'd risk damaging the
fur with the methods they used (I'm in no way suggesting that is whats wrong with what I saw though, that was truely barbaric). It's almost
impossible not to buy things from china just from the huge amount of stuff they make.
I didn't think we were even allowed to buy fur without permission from the government, and from the article it seems its Americans that are
buying it. I don't trust Peta, I believe what I saw happened, but as someone else said, is it all true and is that the normal way?
I'm slightly uncomfortable that some here seem to think All Chinese people are barbaric monsters, I'm sure there are a great number of
Chinese people who would agree that what was happening there was wrong.
Stupid question, why should we be avoiding Palm oil?
Deforestation on a massive scale to make way for Palm Oil plantations... environmental impact plus the extinction of various species of Tiger, Bear, Orangutan, etc.
Thanks, I'd heard before about avoiding Palm Oil but thats the first time anyone as told me why.
You can get ethically sourced palm oil btw, check labels.
I've heard people moan about soya beans causing deforrestation "oh I'm not buying that soya milk, it's wiping out trees!"
Fun fact: 98% of soya beans are grown to feed cattle. XD So enjoy your steak, but avoid soya products for humans like the plague!
[Edited on 27/3/10 by Benzine]
i didn't think there was anything that could shock me so much on the internet, but that was truly, genuinely horrific. i could only bring myself
to watch to halfway through
i'm not a violent person, but if i saw someone doing that, i'd be compelled to offer them the same fate.
it might have been a one off show for PETA, who as has been mentioned, i wouldn't trust implicitly....but how the f**k could you bring yourself
to do it? even if paid to do it?
if karma has its way, i hope they get their comeuppence in bucketloads
tom
People still buy fur? I really thought this was a dead market now