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Fuel prices again.
l0rd - 29/3/10 at 08:16 AM

Don't shoot the messenger please.



The price of oil is as low as it has been for a while, the oil companies have simply jacked their prices up and the labour government will not do anything as they rake in extra VAT for every increase,to help make up for the financial disaster that we are in, thanks to 10 yrs under Gordan Brown first as chancellor of the exchequer and then as unelected prime minister


See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it

We are hitting 114.9 a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying 1.50 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:


This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:


For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.



If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!


Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!


I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and

pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ...


THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,

all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 90p a LITRE RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso.


tegwin - 29/3/10 at 08:34 AM

YOu can tell how long that has been going round the web... fuel is now 118 here and going up weekly..

Punishing specific oil companies wont help...


People just need to mass strike... if no one goes to work, no one uses fuel, companies stop making money and the gubberment might get the idea...


hobbsy - 29/3/10 at 08:36 AM

But I've got shares in BP!!!

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mookaloid - 29/3/10 at 08:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
gubberment



coozer - 29/3/10 at 08:43 AM

And what happens if the only station for milesaround is a BP one??


l0rd - 29/3/10 at 08:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by coozer
And what happens if the only station for milesaround is a BP one??


And mine BP is the favourite one.

the closest shell is 7 miles away.


02GF74 - 29/3/10 at 09:12 AM

time to face reality.

it is not going to work.

people will moan and pass this type of message but in the end, if you cannot afford the petrol, you will drive less or scrimp on something else.

most of us cannot afford to live in a 5 bedroom mansion with swimming pool or drive a lamborghini (or even spell it) so we do without, i.e. live in a poxy 2 up 2 down semi or drive a mondeo.

and it is not necessarily a bad thing as it may keep chaves off the road (actually what will happen is you will find a hole drilled in you petrol tank like what was happening last time :mad


blakep82 - 29/3/10 at 10:05 AM

this will be out of date now obviously, but


United Kingdom
Main article: Hydrocarbon oil duty
From 2007-10-01 the main road fuel (petrol and diesel) duty rate in the UK was GB£0.5035 per litre (GB£2.2890/imperial gal or GB£1.9059/US gal). The rate for biodiesel and bioethanol was £0.3035/L (GB£1.3797/imperial gal or GB£1.1489/US gal).[3] Value Added Tax (VAT), 15% from 2008-12-01 to 2009-12-31, is also charged on the price of the fuel and on the duty. At a pump price of 90.0p/litre (typical for petrol in mid December 2008), this would put the combined tax at 62.09p/litre, or approximately USD$3.49 per US gallon. Thus without tax, the retail price would be 27.91p per litre, making a combined tax rate of 222%.

The latest increase – to GB£0.5619 per litre on unleaded petrol – came into force on 2009-09-01 and is planned to increase "on 1 April from 2010 to 2013 by 1 ppl above indexation in each year."[4]

Diesel for use by farmers and construction vehicles is coloured red and has a much reduced tax.

Jet fuel used for international aviation attracts no duty, and no VAT.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_tax#United_Kingdom


its not the oil companies i've got the problem with. they're the ones that do the work getting the petrol to us after all.
going by that, petrol's only worth about 40p a litre? its the tax thats the killer!


eddie99 - 29/3/10 at 10:09 AM

Worth a go, why not
EDIT: Won't do me any harm, i usually only go to tesco's or sainsburys to stock up on points

[Edited on 29/3/10 by eddie99]


02GF74 - 29/3/10 at 10:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82


its not the oil companies i've got the problem with. they're the ones that do the work getting the petrol to us after all.
going by that, petrol's only worth about 40p a litre? its the tax thats the killer!


where do you think the money for the duck houses is coming from?

the dire financial state of the UK, bailing out hte banks, paying for 2 wars, housing chavs and illegal immigrants - money has to come from somehwere.

no matter who win the general election, it won't get any better.


02GF74 - 29/3/10 at 10:25 AM

oh, and in case you were wondering,


bi22le - 29/3/10 at 11:33 AM

As a country we do have our a*se taxed every way we can. Problem being is the poor - rich gap is getting bigger. This means that more people need more help and more people are earning more money. Either dont help people that contribute nothing to the country or tax the hell out of 100K earners. I suggest not helping everybody that asks!

To many people people are on the take!

We were a nation of proud, honest hardworking and intelligent people. No person from another nationality would use them words to describe the modern British person now, FACT!

Obviously no offence ment, im included in that!


David Jenkins - 29/3/10 at 12:07 PM

The company I work for is Danish - if you want an example of high taxation, look at Denmark!

It's so bad the company has problems getting clever people from anwhere other than Denmark (and a lot of the Danes go abroad to work).

The difference with Denmark is that the state gives back a lot (good schools, health services, etc.).


woodster - 29/3/10 at 12:11 PM

if YOU voted labour or intend voting labour this time you get what you voted for ........... Labour TAX TAX TAX to SPEND SPEND SPEND and when they do spend they don't think about a problem they chuck money at it ...... for example more nhs managers than nurses


woodster - 29/3/10 at 12:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
oh, and in case you were wondering,




..... if you vote labour


ashg - 29/3/10 at 12:14 PM

but why should the person earning 100k be taxed more? they have worked hard for that money why should they support everyone else.

the best solution is to half the pay of every MP in the country, its well above that of the average person and most mp's are complete thicko's or born with a silverspoon in their mouth and dont need the money.

i have paid all my taxes etc for years when i was out of work early this year i got nothing! where is the fairness in that?


blakep82 - 29/3/10 at 12:32 PM

didn't iceland have a vote last month, and decide they'not paying back the money we gave them? little sh!ts


David Jenkins - 29/3/10 at 12:35 PM

The Icelander's voted on a resolution that was already out of date...

They realise that they have to pay us back, but the question was all about the way we get paid, and how quickly.


se7en - 29/3/10 at 12:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by l0rd

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

... all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 90p a LITRE RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso.


When one sends all those email to the drivers/vehicle owners of Britain they will be bored reading the same email.

Using your figures each driver/owner will have received at least 10 email as there are only 60M people in Britain and if 50% of them drive or own vehicles that makes 30M. I still can't see how you start with these magical figures of (30x10=300)???

You suggest that we hold out until the oil companies lower the price to 90p/Ltr - why stop at 90p, why not keep going and we could get it down to 50p, and if we get it that far hold out for another while and the oil companies will give us the petrol for FREE - imagine that FREE PETROL (one can dream).

For those contributors who say shop at Tesco, Sainsbury's, etc. where do you think the supermarkets get their petrol from? They do not have their own refineries; they buy their petrol on the open market at the cheapest price they can. So, whether you like it or not if you buy supermarket petrol you are probably putting money in the pockets of the oil companies you are trying to boycott.


mad4x4 - 29/3/10 at 02:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by se7en
quote:
Originally posted by l0rd

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

... all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 90p a LITRE RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso.


When one sends all those email to the drivers/vehicle owners of Britain they will be bored reading the same email.

Using your figures each driver/owner will have received at least 10 email as there are only 60M people in Britain and if 50% of them drive or own vehicles that makes 30M. I still can't see how you start with these magical figures of (30x10=300)???

You suggest that we hold out until the oil companies lower the price to 90p/Ltr - why stop at 90p, why not keep going and we could get it down to 50p, and if we get it that far hold out for another while and the oil companies will give us the petrol for FREE - imagine that FREE PETROL (one can dream).

For those contributors who say shop at Tesco, Sainsbury's, etc. where do you think the supermarkets get their petrol from? They do not have their own refineries; they buy their petrol on the open market at the cheapest price they can. So, whether you like it or not if you buy supermarket petrol you are probably putting money in the pockets of the oil companies you are trying to boycott.


Would be better to PROTEST LIKE A FEW YEARS AGO like block Refineries and Go slows on Motorways to show PEOPLE POWER. AND IT'S an ELECTION YEAR!!!!! but this time on till the governement do curmbles only took a few weeks last time but we gave up just as it was starting to BITE

Hit the B******s where it hurts in the Revenue and Customs.


NigeEss - 29/3/10 at 04:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4

Would be better to PROTEST LIKE A FEW YEARS AGO like block Refineries and Go slows on Motorways to show PEOPLE POWER. AND IT'S an ELECTION YEAR!!!!! but this time on till the governement do curmbles only took a few weeks last time but we gave up just as it was starting to BITE

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It did appear that we "gave up" but not so. There was a sneaky deal done by our Gubberment
that stopped it.

The protest was actioned almost entirely by the haulage companies.

Have you noticed how much it is to tax an artic nowadays ?
Used to be in the thousands of pounds, now it's the same as a car.


boggle - 29/3/10 at 04:58 PM

doesnt matter what we do...we will allways be stitched up...