After 30 years the lock mechanism on an internal door finally gave up - not bad service, all things considered.

I bought a replacement about 4 or 5 months ago...




And this has now failed - totally jammed, as you can see from the picture.

I know it wasn't expensive, but I would expect it last a few years at least. I can't even open it up to see what the problem is, as the new one doesn't have the screw to hold the cover on that the old one had.

I don't know about you lot, but I find it very depressing - crap sold cheap, with absolutely no chance of buying something better. Who's going to stock a better product that costs £x, when places like B&Q sell rubbish at £x/4?

I'm feeling very depressed...

And where was it made...

... you know where I'm going with this!

It depresses me that it'll probably end up as landfill...

You bought it...

(don't get me wrong - I've bought them too - we all just nned Scootz as PM to stop us all buying chinese shite and expecting (hoping) it'd last at least a few weeks!)

Scootz, I typed before you replied my erudite friend!!!

I'd pay two or three times what that cost me, if I thought it would be decent quality - but everyone sells the same tat - there's no choice.

i have no idea who did this to us.............oh yes it was us.

tHE ETERNAL QUEST FOR EVRYTHING CHEAPER.

Sorry about caps I'm drunk.

xxx

i have no idea who did this to us.............oh yes it was us.

tHE ETERNAL QUEST FOR EVRYTHING CHEAPER.

Sorry about caps I'm drunk.

xxx

Drunk - and double-posting!

I bet you could get a decent one in Germany or Scandinavia. They seem to hold out for higher quality items.

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He's seeing double!



And on a school-night too...

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I agree-Im getting sick of chinese made crap!
dont come across it so much now, cause i refuse to buy it, but used to have to work with-you guessed it- chinese tools where the 'chrome' handle would flake and cut your hands up.
Nowadays Im using tools that were my grandfathers, theyre brilliant!
not just tools, metal and everything.

That'll be a B&Q own crud copy of the Yale version you won't find in the shop because it's held on a different isle nowhere near the door handles, oh and it costs 3x as much...

Have a set of B&Q bits like that; won't fit them due to the fact it looks like it will fail in 2 minutes flat. Instead, I bought a set of Yale originals that appear pretty well built....


[Edited on 15/7/10 by stevebubs]

You could get a <cough> proper quality <hack> one from Toolstation in Ipswich for the princely sum of 57p. They're guaranteed to be made from the finest Chinese high grade steel, and to last a lifetime (as long as it's the life time of a fruit fly...)



Or you could try these.
They're probably just as crap, but they cost more!

Ed.

I just go to screwfix. Same cheaply made parts but at least you get them cheap

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That'll be a B&Q own crud copy of the Yale version you won't find in the shop because it's held on a different isle nowhere near the door handles, oh and it costs 3x as much...

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say what you like about China but the very sad truth is that, today, most things you can buy that are actually british made are such poor quality that you're better of with the chinese version!

We should start our own company.. the "It ain't cheap s**t Ltd"

I've always wondered about lifetime guarantees, I reckon it's the lifetime of the product...

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say what you like about China but the very sad truth is that, today, most things you can buy that are actually british made are such poor quality that you're better of with the chinese version!

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In some cases it's true though, there's not enough people in this country that gives a toss...

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Sorry about caps I'm drunk.

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I have to eat some humble pie - well, a small portion anyway...

I didn't want to go faffing about wasting petrol visiting all the DIY stores, so I had another look at the lock. It simply wouldn't move no matter how hard I tried, short of actually breaking it - so I squirted in some spray white grease. After a fair bit of wiggling it came unstuck, and now works as smoothly as ever (maybe better than before).

So - my original whinge was a bit harsh - but why did they make it from materials that seize together when dry? I couldn't even see what had seized - there's not much in these things. If I could have unscrewed the side plate (as in the original one) I could have fixed it in 10 seconds...

... but would the humber pie be made in China by 4 year old orpahns?

how many people would have bought another?

Lots, they'd have probably bought something else whilst doing it - thereby making the company more profit.

Friend was telling a story about his company / boss. No idea how true this is but the claim is in India there is a drive to make everything last about a year - this way you have to keep buying it again and again.

As their is a fair degree of corruption (according to him) it means people get kick backs year after year.

If your product lasts 20 years, no one wants it.

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I do!!!

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Make that +2.


When my back door lock gave up I went down my local hardware store and bought a 5 lever Yale for £27.

Three years on and it's still a little stiff, but I put that down to "running in".

Paul G