IF YOU PASS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - YOU GET 12YRS HARD LABOUR.
IF YOU PASS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - U GET SHOT.
IF YOU PASS THE BRITISH BORDER ILLEGALLY U GET A JOB, A DRIVER'S LICENSE,
A PLACE TO LIVE, HOUSING BENEFIT, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, CHILD BENEFIT,
NEED I CARRY ON? THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE!!!!
Comments please
Comments? I've just eaten a jam sandwich. Or was that an observation?
if you pass in to british territory illegally you get deported.
if you enter british territory seeking legitimate asylum then you may get some of the above. Shouldnt everyone here have access to shelter, healthcare
and education regardless of background? its kind of what we're all about as a developed nation... Most people do pretty well despite the taxation
used to subsidise certain types of immigration.
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
if you pass in to British territory illegally you get deported.
if you enter british territory seeking legitimate asylum then you may get some of the above. Shouldnt everyone here have access to shelter, healthcare and education regardless of background? its kind of what we're all about as a developed nation... Most people do pretty well despite the taxation used to subsidise certain types of immigration.
THE DAILY MAIL WILL ROT YOUR BRAIN
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
IF YOU PASS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - YOU GET 12YRS HARD LABOUR.
IF YOU PASS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - U GET SHOT.
IF YOU PASS THE BRITISH BORDER ILLEGALLY U GET A JOB, A DRIVER'S LICENSE,
A PLACE TO LIVE, HOUSING BENEFIT, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, CHILD BENEFIT,
NEED I CARRY ON? THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE!!!!
Comments please
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
if you pass in to british territory illegally you get deported.
if you enter british territory seeking legitimate asylum then you may get some of the above. Shouldnt everyone here have access to shelter, healthcare and education regardless of background? its kind of what we're all about as a developed nation... Most people do pretty well despite the taxation used to subsidise certain types of immigration.
no smoke without fire*
*although my chemistry teacher did once catch us 'setting fire' to the school hall with a smoke machine.
I can’t see what the problem is if people want to come here and pay their way, get a job and contribute. When you consider that there are so many
people in this country happy to sponge of the rest of us taxing paying citizens. I don’t mean the many people that have lost jobs and are currently
unemployed struggling to find work but those out there who think its they’re right to live of benefits!
At the end of the day we should all consider ourselves lucky that we were born into a country that is not third world or rife with conflict.
Last year I took my son to the industrial museum in Bradford (highly recommended and free BTW) and it certainly changed my view of immigrants!
However, ILLEGAL immigrants should be turned around sent home. Using the reason (I didn't say excuse but I meant it!) that they can't go
back because they've defected, doesn't wash with me. They know the risks and are willing to take the chance.
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
IF YOU PASS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - YOU GET 12YRS HARD LABOUR.
IF YOU PASS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - U GET SHOT.
IF YOU PASS THE BRITISH BORDER ILLEGALLY U GET A JOB, A DRIVER'S LICENSE,
A PLACE TO LIVE, HOUSING BENEFIT, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, CHILD BENEFIT,
NEED I CARRY ON? THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE!!!!
Comments please
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
IF YOU PASS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - YOU GET 12YRS HARD LABOUR.
IF YOU PASS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - U GET SHOT.
IF YOU PASS THE BRITISH BORDER ILLEGALLY U GET A JOB, A DRIVER'S LICENSE,
A PLACE TO LIVE, HOUSING BENEFIT, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, CHILD BENEFIT,
NEED I CARRY ON? THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE!!!!
Comments please
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
IF YOU PASS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - YOU GET 12YRS HARD LABOUR.
IF YOU PASS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY - U GET SHOT.
IF YOU PASS THE BRITISH BORDER ILLEGALLY U GET A JOB, A DRIVER'S LICENSE,
A PLACE TO LIVE, HOUSING BENEFIT, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, CHILD BENEFIT,
NEED I CARRY ON? THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE!!!!
Comments please
Legitimate asylum seekers should always be helped. Those that have passed through one or more safe countries to get here are not legitimate asylum
seekers though - if they were, they would have sought asylum in the first safe country. The obvious example of this is the camps of people in France
waiting to cross the channel.
Even when legitimate and deserving of our help, people who have been here for even a number of years should still be considered for return if the
situation improves. There must of course be a cut-off point, when people are considered to have made their family lives here and it would be unfair to
return them - the question is how long would that be?
Maybe in some cases there are deserving people, what really gets my back up are MP's and the the way they waste money when there are supposed to
be cutbacks yet several this week spent £5000 each on how to make chocolates as a team building excercise. Come the revolution
And how is spending money on chocolate not good??
Spending my money on their chocolate is not good.
quote:
Comments please
quote:
Originally posted by daviep
Britain might be a bit confused (completely f£%^ed up) at the moment but there aren't too many places I would see as a better option, Australia, New Zealand or a Scandinavian country possibly.
I've seen enough places (West Africa, Middle East, Central Asia, USofA) to know when I'm well off, do you think it's so bad here???? Have a think about my old boss
Davie
)
I didn't think British people were allowed to come to Canada anymore.
I find that when times are good, all these "foreign people" are great to have around - who wants to wash dishes in a restaurant? Well, I did
for a time, once I had my first uni degree (age 31 at the time), but I digress. But as soon as tougher times come along, it's "get
lost". Hmmmmm.
Last observation: reading any newspaper is going to be bad for blood pressure, anywhere in the free, western world. Of course, in the States, you
can't find the hockey scores, so that's another thing again.
quote:
Originally posted by RK
I didn't think British people were allowed to come to Canada anymore.
ah one of my favourite rants
for a start,to become a "refuge" you must apply at the first safe yountry you come to,as far as i am aware,we do not border any un-safe
countries.
as for "they get no benefits",well,ask yourself why the bother to travel all the way here,it,s not for the weather or the warm welcome from
the locals.
i work for the NHS now,it is bursting under the strain,simply too menay people using it,s services,what really annoy,s me are the huge number of
people that use it,s services that dont speak a word of English and therefore have not been here for long,earning a living and paying taxes that fund
their treatment .
belive me,theyt know how to work the system and all seem to live in a recently deforated house or flat with a huge plasma TV on the wall, fully fitted
out with funriture and a newish car on the drive....all without doing a days graft.
one particular individual that i met,only about 30 y/o is on diallasis,that means 6 hours of treatment every other day for the rest of her life,when
asked by a fellow patient what she did for a job,she simply replied "oh i dont have to work"the fellow patient,who has been here and worked
here for 30 years was so insensed at her freeloading,he told me what she had said and let out a tirade of abuse at her,she was unfazed !.
then to cap it all,last yesterday a 60 y/o woman with a broken arm,hardly able to walk wearing nothing but a nightie was discharged (thrown out) of
the hospital,she has been beaten up by her partner,she had nothing,social services couldnt/wouldnt help,she had no clothes and no where to go,after a
frustrating 2 hours trying to get her somewhere i took her back to the hospital and asked if i should just find her a nice comfy shop doorway in which
to spen the weekend?.
she had worked all her life here and was entitled to the grand total of NOTHING !
rant over !
My Estonian neighbour has just returned home after 5 years, job Market has dried up and the rents to high.
He gets no benefits so back to Estonia for him.
Shame, nice guy, did not ponce of the state, excellent neighbour much better than the wife beating, child abusing, English neighbour that I had
conflict with weekly fir 15 years
Agree with conrod kid.
From where I am we have have many Polish workers/incomers. Many of them are good people and hard willing workers BUT they really do know how the
system works. Many of them aspire to own a BMW ( Just like the rich mafia types back home) but atleast they have a good work ethic ( better than may
of our own) and they do pay taxes etc here. They can claim familly allowance for their kids back home ( no checks made on how many or IF they are
their kids IMHO).
During a conversation with one of them the other day it turns out that many of the "bad eggs" and or Russian/latvian/lithuanian ( how did
they get in to the country with no european affiliation) are here under false passports ( readilly available apparently) and causing a lot of trouble
and draining the system. Many of them are knife carriers and it seems the police are to afraid/can't be bothered to intervene. (one guy seen
smashing a beer bottle on a police car and the ocuppants sat and did nothing???WTF).
In the conversation it turns out that many of them have polish passports ( which can be bought no problem) and if they get caught the system is so
tied up in red tape it takes forever to sort out. To quote my Polish co worker " these people have run away from a poo situation or they may be
in trouble with the law. It is better to be caught and locked up here than it is to be locked up in Russia." nuff said then. These are people
with nothing to loose.
Also bear in mind people that many of the USELESS LAZY NO GOOD SCROUNGERS are our own country men and we as their neighbours have for too long sat
and said nothing.
Yes come the revolution.
My opinion is its all down to numbers.
You will constantly hear 'my mates from X country and he works harder than the bloke from the UK'.
Yes, I hear it all the time. But I also see first hand the lazy f***ers from abroad too that sponge off the state. Its real, it does happen.
But, as I said, its all down to numbers.
If the stretched services of the NHS and Police and the government hand outs were applied out to the number of people in this country BEFORE mass
immigration then we would be in a better situation financially. We would still have the same percentages of Hard workers vs state spongers. But the
number would be less. Keeping the borders open for so long as we have has had a real detrimental affect on our country. Yes there have been benefits,
socially and economically, but IMHO they are heavily outnumbered by the drain on our society.
And I'm afraid its now too late to stop the influx. Our country will now be like this forever. Maybe a few migrants will go home (I have seen
some of our factory workers return) but the ratio of those returning and their replacements is well over 50 to 1.
quote:
if you enter british territory seeking legitimate asylum then you may get some of the above. Shouldnt everyone here have access to shelter, healthcare and education regardless of background? its kind of what we're all about as a developed nation... Most people do pretty well despite the taxation used to subsidise certain types of immigration.
This little island of ours is over populated as it is, not to mention bankrupt. No excuses, no exceptions turn them all away.
This little island of ours is over populated as it is, not to mention bankrupt. No excuses, no exceptions turn them all away.
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
ah one of my favourite rants
for a start,to become a "refuge" you must apply at the first safe yountry you come to,as far as i am aware,we do not border any un-safe countries.
as for "they get no benefits",well,ask yourself why the bother to travel all the way here,it,s not for the weather or the warm welcome from the locals.
i work for the NHS now,it is bursting under the strain,simply too menay people using it,s services,what really annoy,s me are the huge number of people that use it,s services that dont speak a word of English and therefore have not been here for long,earning a living and paying taxes that fund their treatment .
belive me,theyt know how to work the system and all seem to live in a recently deforated house or flat with a huge plasma TV on the wall, fully fitted out with funriture and a newish car on the drive....all without doing a days graft.
one particular individual that i met,only about 30 y/o is on diallasis,that means 6 hours of treatment every other day for the rest of her life,when asked by a fellow patient what she did for a job,she simply replied "oh i dont have to work"the fellow patient,who has been here and worked here for 30 years was so insensed at her freeloading,he told me what she had said and let out a tirade of abuse at her,she was unfazed !.
then to cap it all,last yesterday a 60 y/o woman with a broken arm,hardly able to walk wearing nothing but a nightie was discharged (thrown out) of the hospital,she has been beaten up by her partner,she had nothing,social services couldnt/wouldnt help,she had no clothes and no where to go,after a frustrating 2 hours trying to get her somewhere i took her back to the hospital and asked if i should just find her a nice comfy shop doorway in which to spen the weekend?.
she had worked all her life here and was entitled to the grand total of NOTHING !
rant over !
on a serious note, how much do you realisitically expect your quality of life to improve if immigration was halted? As an individual, how much better
off would you be?
Thats what really matters right?
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
THE DAILY MAIL WILL ROT YOUR BRAIN
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
on a serious note, how much do you realisitically expect your quality of life to improve if immigration was halted? As an individual, how much better off would you be?
Thats what really matters right?
True, thats why I left.
So, do we dissagree with people coming over here, setting up community's, not speaking our language, taking over the place?
Just a thought, what did the British do to create "The British Empire". We did exactly as every one else is doing now, and we don't
like it being done to us.
•The British Empire still comprises of 14 sovereign territories of the United Kingdom.
•Its total land mass is 6 times larger than the UK itself.
India was the largest populated country in the empire.
•The British Empire included Canada, Jamaica, India, Pakistan, Australia, Egypt, Kenya, Ireland, Suriname, Afghanistan, Normandy, America, Hong-Kong,
New Zealand, Burma, Nepal, Blize, Bahamas and Grenada.
So, as we forced them to become part of "our" empire, their just coming home...........
Got no one to blame but our selves. What goes around comes around..........
Just my opinion, so no problem if anyone dissagree's. Not much we can do about it any way.......
Where is Enoch when you need him.
I have to say I can see both sides of this one.
On the one hand I do think that the immogration laws and guidelines do need to be overhauled drastically. Starting with but not limited to the fact
that if you have entered the country and not made yourself known immediately you get sent back full stop no excuses, no exceptions. I also think that
if you do things the right way you get ZERO benefits until you have paid national insurance for a minimum of 3 years. This would make us far less
attactive to a certain (less desirable) type. I also think that if you've been here x number of years you should have to take a test proving that
you can speak english to a certain standard. Also I'd say it's fair to expect immegrants to conform to our way of life... I get so annoyed
when I hear about "honor killings" etc. If that is so acceptable to you why come here in the first place?
Then there is the other side of the coin... If you are prepared to work, contibute to our society and communities and especially if can bring a skill
with you (particularly one that is needed) then why not let these people stay? These people are not likely to be a drain on our resources or welfare
system, on the contrary they would benefit it.
I think the above should also apply to people coming in from other european countries and if brussels doesn't like it I think we should seriously
reconsider our place in europe and the EEC.
WOW WHAT A GREAT SLICE OF VIEWS
I have had neighbours who questioned why I wanted to work when
we lived in a Jakey area whilst I got my electrical quals up to date.
These loaders couldnt see the reason for work when they had it all
provided for them. My mate worked 12 hours a day muck shifting in a Volvo
not counting the hours drive each way to get to work...... only to loose his home due to debt.
His partners pal got a five bedroom house across the road for ziltch and has never worked a day in his life.
The system is loaded agaist the worker
it's always better on the other side of the fence, isn' it?
I must confess I am more worried about population growth than anything else. Our population is rapidly growing, and immigration plays a large part in that.