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scootz - 16/2/11 at 09:41 AM

... backs on a berserker again... can't sit... can't walk... only comfort is lying down!

I spent all day yesterday dozing, so I guess that's not going to happen today! Any suggestions of things to do whilst lying on your back???


Mr Whippy - 16/2/11 at 09:46 AM

who's with you...


scootz - 16/2/11 at 10:02 AM

... the dog!


scudderfish - 16/2/11 at 10:07 AM

Change your gearbox?


Mr Whippy - 16/2/11 at 10:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
... the dog!


sick...

Play with google sketch, that's what I've been doing to stop myself going mad in this boring job, getting a dab hand at sketchy physics

Whenever I did my back in the worst thing I could do was go to bed as it just got worse, best to move about if you can

How did you knacker it anyway???


Mr Whippy - 16/2/11 at 10:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
Change your gearbox?


Yeah get one of these and make yourself useful



mcerd1 - 16/2/11 at 10:18 AM

design me a new roof for my garage


stevegough - 16/2/11 at 10:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
... backs on a berserker again... can't sit... can't walk... only comfort is lying down!

I spent all day yesterday dozing, so I guess that's not going to happen today! Any suggestions of things to do whilst lying on your back???


If you are having back spasms - try a VERY hot shower on it. As good as other heat treatments - then again, if it is really bad, visit an Osteopath - £25 a visit is usually money well spent. And what a relief when it goes....


Also the big 400mg ibuprofen are definitely worth a try.

You have 0.5kgs of my sympathy.


thunderace - 16/2/11 at 10:35 AM

get a psp and some games


cd.thomson - 16/2/11 at 10:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
... backs on a berserker again... can't sit... can't walk... only comfort is lying down!

I spent all day yesterday dozing, so I guess that's not going to happen today! Any suggestions of things to do whilst lying on your back???


If you are having back spasms - try a VERY hot shower on it. As good as other heat treatments - then again, if it is really bad, visit an Osteopath - £25 a visit is usually money well spent. And what a relief when it goes....


Also the big 400mg ibuprofen are definitely worth a try.

You have 0.5kgs of my sympathy.


Steve, Scotts back is proper fecked (in my medical opinion), not sure the brufen and shower will fix it .. as much as I'd like to rinse him for being a pansy! haha


mrwibble - 16/2/11 at 10:47 AM

jazz mag at the ready captain?


Daddylonglegs - 16/2/11 at 10:55 AM

Get yourself one of those Tens machines, I've had a dodgy back for more years than I care to remember, and it certainly helps with back spasm. SYmpathy to you too, unless you've been there it's hard to appreciate how much damn pain it causes

Oh, and as for what you can do, try designing the next big Kit Car seller


Steve Hignett - 16/2/11 at 11:06 AM

Mate, I've recently increased my Meds from Tremadol, through the range of Matrifen, starting at 12.5mg/h 72hr replacements. Doubled it to 25's and now on 50's.

I'm definitely feeling less pain than I did on the tremadol and it's a patch so not popping pills all day...

ETA - Obv, I'm not telling you take it, just have a word with your Doc and see if it's a viable option for you...

[Edited on 16/2/11 by Steve Hignett]


Mr Whippy - 16/2/11 at 11:12 AM

Scootz

Have you ever seen the documentary "Strong man"?

This guys broke his back and fix it himself, he runs a clinic (I think in Moscow!) but seeing how well he repaired his own back it might be worth investigating?

article linky

linky

what it applies for linky

not sure what your condition is but it this guy just sprang to mind

[Edited on 16/2/11 by Mr Whippy]


Confused but excited. - 16/2/11 at 11:39 AM

Scootz, have you asked your GP to refer you to a pain clinic?

My missus was on high levels of Tramadol for ages and they flipped when she went to see a pain specialist.
Tramadol should only be prescribed for short periods, otherwise if fubars your head.

When I had a trapped nerve in my neck ( I was rushed into hospital with suspected heart attack) the pain control team came round took me off the massive doses of pain killers and prescribed a cocktail of low doses of Paracetamol, Tramadol and Gabapentine, it worked a treat.

Worth a shot mate.

HTH.

Take care,
John.


mcerd1 - 16/2/11 at 11:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mrwibble
jazz mag at the ready captain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VuqQtemvYY

FF to 4:15


[Edited on 16/2/2011 by mcerd1]


BenB - 16/2/11 at 12:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
Scootz, have you asked your GP to refer you to a pain clinic?

My missus was on high levels of Tramadol for ages and they flipped when she went to see a pain specialist.
Tramadol should only be prescribed for short periods, otherwise if fubars your head.

When I had a trapped nerve in my neck ( I was rushed into hospital with suspected heart attack) the pain control team came round took me off the massive doses of pain killers and prescribed a cocktail of low doses of Paracetamol, Tramadol and Gabapentine, it worked a treat.

Worth a shot mate.

HTH.

Take care,
John.


Be careful with Tramadol indeed. Nasty stuff when used long term and not always that effective a painkiller! Trip to the pain clinic might not be a bad option, look at some the neuropathic painkillers (gabapentin, pregabalin etc etc), they will also likely discuss things like TENS / electroacupunture / nerve blocks etc etc. As much as I love my complimentary medicines, chiropractic technique has very little evidence of benefit and is based upon "subluxation" which after more than 100 years has never actually been demonstrated as existing. It's also slightly worrying that in the 1997 Journal of Canadian Chiropractic Assocation a study showed that 74% of chiropracters questionned "do not accept the view that controlled clinical trials are the best way to validate chiropractic methods". Always worries me when someone is making a claim but doesn't seem that keen to prove it Although I do have a 300mph car, I just can't show it to anyone .


speedyxjs - 16/2/11 at 12:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
who's with you...


lol!


mangogrooveworkshop - 16/2/11 at 12:52 PM

I could rent my exp out to you for a fixed fee at x pounds and hour.


Mr Whippy - 16/2/11 at 01:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
I could rent my exp out to you for a fixed fee at x pounds and hour.



scootz - 16/2/11 at 01:40 PM



Backs fecked. Done the scans, specialists, pills, physio's and pain clinics. Upshot is that my spinal chord and sciatic nerves are knacked and there's no direct treatment left to try.

Oxycontin in high doses used to work a bit, but I found it rather 'morish' so stopped taking it as I could see where I was heading...

Think I might ask the Doc for some strong sleeping pills and try and hibernate through this one!

Just watched 'There Will Be Blood'... the two 'Mesrine' films are next! Poor dog wants to go for a walk, but it won't be happening with me anytime soon


eddie99 - 16/2/11 at 01:46 PM

Locostbuilders chat!


mrwibble - 16/2/11 at 01:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz


Backs fecked. Done the scans, specialists, pills, physio's and pain clinics. Upshot is that my spinal chord and sciatic nerves are knacked and there's no direct treatment left to try.

Oxycontin in high doses used to work a bit, but I found it rather 'morish' so stopped taking it as I could see where I was heading...

Think I might ask the Doc for some strong sleeping pills and try and hibernate through this one!

Just watched 'There Will Be Blood'... the two 'Mesrine' films are next! Poor dog wants to go for a walk, but it won't be happening with me anytime soon


oh dear better wheel you off to the vet then.

seriously though, hope you feel better soon, and u've got a nurse that can "treat" you.

if you don't mind me asking, what has caused all this damage?


scootz - 16/2/11 at 01:57 PM

Four Herniated discs were pushing into my spinal canal for the best part of ten years before a proper diagnosis was made (for some reason no-one was keen to offer an MRI)! The disc matter has all dispersed now, but the nerves are still proper angry!


mrwibble - 16/2/11 at 02:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Four Herniated discs were pushing into my spinal canal for the best part of ten years before a proper diagnosis was made (for some reason no-one was keen to offer an MRI)! The disc matter has all dispersed now, but the nerves are still proper angry!


ouch.

will it get better over time?


Fozzie - 16/2/11 at 02:15 PM

Awwww....sorry to hear that Scootzie ....

If it helps you not to feel too alone.....I'm recovering from surgery ...not spinal (last week)
and the only position I feel comfortable in, is flat on my stomach ....

DS Lite/puzzle games are stopping me go totally do-lally.....

Can only manage small amounts of time actually writing on lappy keyboard.

I really hope you start to feel better very soon ....

Many years ago, I really suffered badly with spinal pain, and after being on 'heavy'
pain killers for a long time, I did end up having a spinal nerve block done. It took quite a few 'goes'
and the episodes started becoming less frequent and lasting less amount of time.

Hope the pain lessens soon
Fozzie


scootz - 16/2/11 at 02:17 PM

It's the great unknown... no-ones willing to say!

I guess they'll come up with a way of fixing nerves during my lifetime, but knowing my luck it'll be the day before I croak!


scootz - 16/2/11 at 02:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Awwww....sorry to hear that Scootzie ....

If it helps you not to feel too alone.....I'm recovering from surgery ...not spinal (last week)
and the only position I feel comfortable in, is flat on my stomach ....

DS Lite/puzzle games are stopping me go totally do-lally.....

Can only manage small amounts of time actually writing on lappy keyboard.

I really hope you start to feel better very soon ....

Many years ago, I really suffered badly with spinal pain, and after being on 'heavy'
pain killers for a long time, I did end up having a spinal nerve block done. It took quite a few 'goes'
and the episodes started becoming less frequent and lasting less amount of time.

Hope the pain lessens soon
Fozzie


Thanks Fozz! Was the 'block' straight into your spinal chord? I've had steroids injected straight in there... not nice!


Fozzie - 16/2/11 at 02:32 PM

Ah I know the type.....I had a bout of adductor tendinitis, and sacroilitis a couple of years
back and had those steroid injections into the bone....

The Spinal nerve block was done (a good few years ago mind, so procedure may have changed
with newer technology), with an epidural type needle/line put into the spinal cord and the 'brew'
was dripped in. It was done in theatre, and yes, you do have to be awake, and after I was completely
numb from the area down to my feet. I had to stay in hospital overnight.

That was years ago so hopefully technology and medication has come on a long way since then.
Even if the procedure is still the same, it is well worth having done......I wouldn't wish that sort of
back pain on anyone.....

You need to see the 'Pain' guys .....

Fozzie

[Edited on 16-2-11 by Fozzie]


scootz - 16/2/11 at 03:07 PM

Sounds similar... the worst of it for me was the screens were in my line of site, so I could see the needle going into my spinal chord! You know you're in safe hands, but it's still pretty shocking. Was only sore when they started injecting the steroid... the second it hit my nerve was incredible. Just like hitting a nerve in your tooth, but magnified 100 times and affecting the whole lower-half of your body.


mcerd1 - 16/2/11 at 03:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Sounds similar... the worst of it for me was the screens were in my line of site, so I could see the needle going into my spinal chord! You know you're in safe hands, but it's still pretty shocking. Was only sore when they started injecting the steroid... the second it hit my nerve was incredible. Just like hitting a nerve in your tooth, but magnified 100 times and affecting the whole lower-half of your body.

I think I'd have passed out just watching the needle


edsco - 16/2/11 at 03:38 PM

I know how you feel. Slipped 4 discs in lower back in Aug 2009. Very very painful. However it didn't take quite so long to diagnose. Suffered from sciatic pain for years and was really getting me down. Sitting, driving, walking so so so painful. Then putting something in a car in an awkward way was the final straw.

Saw consultant few days after the event. Took one look at me crippled over and diagnosed straight away. Same day i was in for a scan. Confirmed the results next day....yep you've slipped a disc....hang on....no no, 4 discs!!

Operated on the following week. As soon as i came round from the op, i could tell straight away that the prolonged pain had simply gone away. Was amazing!!

However, all the intrusive surgery comes at a price. Over a year before i was back fighting fit. Lots of core stability exercises is the key, and a shed load of horse strength pain killers, anti inflammatory, and morphine to get me through the initial stages. Its fair to say during the initial stages of recovery i was away with the fairies alot!

Stretches, exercise, and plenty of walking really helps believe it or not to improve the core muscles. Don't stay lying down, and yes i know its very painful but in the long run you get better faster than if you stay on your back.


steve m - 16/2/11 at 04:25 PM

Get well Scootz, at least your at home!!

My dad is in east surrey hospital, with chronic back pain from a car accident 21 years ago when he broke his back

he has had about 18 years trouble free health since the accident, untill NOW

I doubt he will ever leave hospital, and he is only 77


Fozzie - 16/2/11 at 04:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Sounds similar... the worst of it for me was the screens were in my line of site, so I could see the needle going into my spinal chord! You know you're in safe hands, but it's still pretty shocking. Was only sore when they started injecting the steroid... the second it hit my nerve was incredible. Just like hitting a nerve in your tooth, but magnified 100 times and affecting the whole lower-half of your body.


Yes ..... I purposely left that bit out.......I could 'feel' the 'offending one travel up to my chest where I thought it was being crushed, then it travelled up the back of my neck to the top of my head......I thought it was going to explode......
Yep it was excrutiating, but it was worth it....as said in my previous post, I went back a couple more times.......

Steve...sorry to hear about your dad.....Stu was taken to East Surrey last June when he had his heart attack.... Their prompt action at getting the stent in as soon as he got there saved his life, so I only can say good things about the hospital.....
I hope your dad feels a bit more comfortable soon.....


scootz - 16/2/11 at 04:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by steve m
Get well Scootz, at least your at home!!
My dad is in east surrey hospital, with chronic back pain from a car accident 21 years ago when he broke his back
He has had about 18 years trouble free health since the accident, untill NOW
I doubt he will ever leave hospital, and he is only 77


Ay Caramba... not good. Hope he gets better as there's now't more miserable than being stuck in a hospital AND IT STILL HURTS!

I was doped with morphine the last time I was in the hospital for my back, so it was pretty much a happy-clappy time, but then they stop giving it to you

TOP-TIP... DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE A WI-FI INTERNET DEVICE IN HOSPITAL WHILST UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MORPHINE. I bought two Lotus Europa's the last time and didn't have a clue until the day I got home!