I have stood on five ton bales being dicected so the police station could burn them for the central heating boiler
Hi, in response to some comments that I have received about my belief that cannabis is a much maligned subject and the desire to try and educate
people with the truth I urge any interested among you to spend 50mins watching this interesting documentary. I know from some of the messages/emails I
have received that I will be preaching to the converted with many of you, but for those that think that the likes of Cameron are telling the truth
when they say that cannabis is very very toxic and evil, please i beg of you, watch this!
http://peterreynolds.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/when-we-grow-this-is-what-we-can-do/
Best wishes, Simon
Every class A drug user i have ever known, started by smoking a bit of pot.
DONT DO DRUGS
used to grow wild out the back of the house in SA never bothered with it.
I have stood on five ton bales being dicected so the police station could burn them for the central heating boiler
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Originally posted by deltron63
Every class A drug user i have ever known, started by smoking a bit of pot.
DONT DO DRUGS
Why canabis is a bad thing link
Well now, you see.
I can see the argument for Cannabis
but then
I can also see the argument against Cannabis
But which is better?
There's only one way to find out: -
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Every class A drug user i have ever known, started by smoking a bit of pot.
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Originally posted by deltron63
Every class A drug user i have ever known, started by smoking a bit of pot.
DONT DO DRUGS
It has always surprised me how cannabis is still classed as illegal while alcohol is not. Alcohol (and indeed nicotine) is far more addictive,
damaging to health, promotes anti social and violent behaviour, costs the taxpayer millions of ££s in it's associated problems etc etc. Oooooh
don't get me started 
Cannabis smokers generally do very little harm to other people or their environment - alcohol drinkers often cause havoc in their community! Its a
no-brainer IMO
[Edited on 10-3-11 by RazMan]
Lets face it, if someone invented alcohol now, it would be illegal.... It causes far more harm than Cannabis. When was the last time you saw two
stoners fighting!? Never! Ban alcohol, and legalise cannabis, and I would bet good money that our country would be a happier place!
Tell my next door neighbour it's a good thing. He's doing 4.5 years for growing it
I once took a drag on a spliff but never inhaled..Honest!
right or wrong make it legalise and tax it.
I have smoked it takin other stuff and it hasnt made me a junkie
but if you legalise it you will
A: reduce petty crime,
B: reduce organise crime / money laundring
C: Reduce drug wars / patch battles.
D: give the govement cash so the dont have to penalise us in other ways.
Try it for 2 years and see what happens/
police sieze any being grown / imported illegally and sell it to legal distributors and the get a cut ( helping them ballance there budgets )
regards
Agriv8
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Originally posted by Agriv8
right or wrong make it legalise and tax it.
I have smoked it takin other stuff and it hasnt made me a junkie
but if you legalise it you will
A: reduce petty crime,
B: reduce organise crime / money laundring
C: Reduce drug wars / patch battles.
D: give the govement cash so the dont have to penalise us in other ways.
Try it for 2 years and see what happens/
police sieze any being grown / imported illegally and sell it to legal distributors and the get a cut ( helping them ballance there budgets )
regards
Agriv8
Don't have the time to watch the link at the moment, will (hopefully) do so tomorrow.
Regarding cannabis there are a few issues.
1) its illegal in the uk. Whether it should be or not is often open to debate.
2) cannabis you buy (like every other illegal drug) can contain a number of impurities which can be very harmful to you. I used to live in nurses
accommodation, one of the nurses was a drug dependency nurse. She'd tell stories of how impure the drugs were. One story that stuck in my mind
was heroine cut with battery acid in peterborough. It literally ate peoples veins. People were so addicted they couldn't stop, they died horrible
deaths. Cannabis resin blocks has a reputation for being very weak as its cut with lots of stuff, frequently poisonous (which i've never
understood as surely this will harm your customers and therefore you're screwing yourself unless the idea is to make someone feel bad after
they've taken the drug so they'll take it again and feel good). Suppose this is an argument for growing your own.
3) the non positive effects - aka the links to psychosis. Strontium Dog and myself were talking about this earlier. Despite looking twice today I
can't find any recent research saying there is no link between cannabis and psychosis. (i struggled to find any peer reviewed research saying
there was no link). The issue is no one seems to be able to identity what causes the problem.
So should it be legalised ......... well i firmly believe if we discovered alcohol and tobacco today we'd make it illegal. Although is that
really a reason to legalise something else? Personally i think we need to figure out the link between cannabis and psychosis. Until we know what
we're dealing with then i think it should investigate further its use in medical situations.
I find it interesting that Holland has been reviewing its position on cannabis recently. I'm going to look up why as i can't remember the
reasoning but there were issues around the coffee shops.
I think you should all go and get jobs you smack heads 
from my own experience
cannabis is not in its self evil, but a lot of problems caused by it are like every other drug out there, abuse the drug and it will bite you.
alcohol is still in my eyes one of the most damaging drugs available today as its so easy to abuse.
heavy cannabis use can and does lead to psychosis problems.
it boils down to the old phrase "everything in moderation"
You lot need to chill out and have a joint
IMHO there is no massive harm in weed but it (like many things) is a waste of time and money, it has a propensity to encourage idleness (where did
that saying come from?!), and wont do you any favours in the long run.
I can promise you it ruined my memory and took my ambition away at uni. But, we did have a laugh as kids doing all that stuff.
Which makes me wonder, if i enjoyed my youth so much, why would i be so keen for my son not to get into that scene?
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I find it interesting that Holland has been reviewing its position on cannabis recently. I'm going to look up why as i can't remember the reasoning but there were issues around the coffee shops.
There's two sides to this 1 - The Criminal Justice side and 2 - The Health side
Criminal Justice - This is the easy one, legalise it and sell it in Government shops at a price the dealers can't match. You'll wipe them
out overnight and the crime they bring with them.
Health - Bit more difficult as there's bound to be some negative health aspects associated with it but if people are smoking it anyway
what's the difference if it's sold legally. If anything it's an education issue as it is with baccy, if people chose to ignore the
evidence and carry on smoking it's their choice, it's a free country after all.
Cannabis is the perfect drug for chemo patients both my oncologists told me so, stops nausea, increases appetite, calms and improves mood and a damn
sight less toxic than some of the stuff they were giving me during my treatments.
I had a drug call doxirubicin/adriamiacin which is nasty, and given the choice I would take weed over it every day of the week.
IMHO medicinal cannabis is woefully underutilised.
Anything else I'm not concerned with really.
[Edited on 10/3/11 by liam.mccaffrey]
Hmm dont really know if I should comment and if I do where to start!?!
on the medical side opiates from Opium ( spelt wrong I know ) were used and synthetic versions are still in use or have I made that up.
Anyway like drinking under age the fact that your not supposed to makes it all the more compelling times this by the adolesent multiplier .
PS went to amsterdam on my stag weekend and lost a good few hours 'Now that was cool man' sex museum nicley stoned god how I lauged !!!!
Regards
Agriv8
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Originally posted by UncleFista
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Originally posted by deltron63
Every class A drug user i have ever known, started by smoking a bit of pot.
DONT DO DRUGS
I don't believe you.
I'll bet my house they "started"by drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco.
Both totally legal and taxed to high heaven...
A while ago 5th Gear did a comparison on their test track - one driver had too much to drink, while the other had a couple of spliffs...
The drunk drove too fast, cut corners, missed stop lines, etc. etc. The guy on cannabis drove like a pensioner - bit too slow, ultra careful, super
safe.
I know which I'd prefer to meet on the road...
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Originally posted by deltron63
Every class A drug user i have ever known, started by smoking a bit of pot.
DONT DO DRUGS
I say legalize weed too, I don't do it anymore as just made me sleep or eat mars bars like a complete moron. So what if it mashes folks brains,
at least they don't become violent unlike booze.
As for other drugs I dunno as only tried speed the once and beggar me never again I hardly had a face left ....
Nutters should be made to inhale weed 247 to calm them down
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Originally posted by norfolkluego
Health - Bit more difficult as there's bound to be some negative health aspects associated with it but if people are smoking it anyway what's the difference if it's sold legally. If anything it's an education issue as it is with baccy, if people chose to ignore the evidence and carry on smoking it's their choice, it's a free country after all.
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
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Originally posted by norfolkluego
Health - Bit more difficult as there's bound to be some negative health aspects associated with it but if people are smoking it anyway what's the difference if it's sold legally. If anything it's an education issue as it is with baccy, if people chose to ignore the evidence and carry on smoking it's their choice, it's a free country after all.
Not such a great plan when we all pay for the NHS.
Just a bit of research facts for you - it's the new hybridised strains of skunk that are causing all the psychological problems due to the
imbalance of the active ingredients THC and CBD. Outdoor grown weed and hash have these two chemicals in balance and very few long term problems have
been shown with regular use of this type of cannabis - certainly far less than other intoxicants us humans seem to like.
Skunk on the other hand, grown under artificial lighting is pushed to produce as much THC as possible, but in doing so almost no CBD is produced
leading to an imbalance. It is the use of skunk, especially amongst younger smokers that can lead to pyschological problems - shown now by extensive
research.
In a recent BBC doc about cannabis they went into this at length and actually showed the difference when a regular smoker tried both and did a
psychological test after each type (with time in between). After the skunk the person thought she had a 'special' connnection with her
boyfriend and thought she could communicate telepathically with him, she also got paranoid which she didn't on the regualr stuff.
So if you're gonna smoke people, stick the the nice natural stuff and leave that super strong skunk to the crazy kids......