They stole two cases from his back seat, full of tits.....
Both bags were found in the park nearby, still full of tits.
Some thieving little scumbag had a good rifle through the car last night and nicked the satnav, I think one of us must have left the door open so
hands up there but still not good. Daft little twat left my Oakleys on the passenger seat though!!
Where the car is parked is on a sort of private road but we do get a fair bit of through traffic as people use it as a short cut. I want to put a
locked gate down the side of the house but I need to allow easy-ish access to the neighbours whilst being able to lock/unlock it from both sides - I
thought about maybe a keypad thing but they're quite expensive. Most of the options I've seen have the ability to unlock it without a key
from the inside which would be no good - any suggestions welcomed.
Thanks
Ez
A big dog on a very long chain.
Not throwing water on your fire, a gate is a bit after the horse has bolted. If the gate covers a well used driveway, its only any use if its
shut/locked and too high to get over or around.
Like most gates on drives, they tend to stay locked open for ease of access, you will soon lose interest in locking/unlocking in the rain, and leave
it open.
Its easier not to leave theft worthy goodies on show in your car, they tend not to screw a car just for a random rummage, its more likely there is
something they have seen to tempt them in there. They are predictable spotty turds imho, so leave your glasses on your head and take your gps in the
house , when your not using it.
I bollick my wife for leaving her sunglasses on display when the car is parked up, I wont even leave my jacket on the car seat, just incase the spotty
turds think Im stupid enough to leave my wallet in it. Her argument is the jacket is empty, my point is a car window costs Ģ100 to replace.
Save your money and dont leave stuff on view in your car. (is it a tin top, ie not s softop/seven etc ?)
I had something similar happen, but as a sunglass rep they took my sample cases. Roughly Ģ20k's worth. Car was locked, though no visible damage. Police didn't seem surprised when I said it was a Golf. Took my sat-nav too. I was more bothered by the fact someone had been in MY car. Lost another sat-nav a few years later from not locking the car. Obvious they'd had a good rummage. I now have my spare key by the bed so the last thing I do at night is check. Leave nothing on show and keep it double locked.
No joke, years ago I dealt with a theft from a car, and it was a rep from a breast implant company.
They stole two cases from his back seat, full of tits.....
Both bags were found in the park nearby, still full of tits.
Ooooooh... controversial, Ivan!
The CPTED theory (Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design) suggests that anything which defines a properties boundaries can have a
negative effect on the criminal mindset.
But then again, it could all just be a load of namby-pamby psycho-bollocks!
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Originally posted by scootz
Ooooooh... controversial, Ivan!
The CPTED theory (Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design) suggests that anything which defines a properties boundaries can have a negative effect on the criminal mindset.
But then again, it could all just be a load of namby-pamby psycho-bollocks!
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Originally posted by T66
You know the score, unless the fence is electrified and patrolled by psycho axe wielding maniacs, they will hop over it for a quick rummage...
aversion therapy - he will never go back....
The better half can not understand why I take the satnav off the window and put it in the glove box when the car is parked away from home, sits in a locked garage with security system at home (I like others on here am a retired police officer).
The gate is only used maybe 3 or 4 times a week by those with a lawful right to use it but the private road and my path make up what people use as a cut through. I'd quite happily brick it up and deal with the minor inconvenience of having to drag the bins round but the neighbours don't fancy that idea.
have you considered seeing if the neighbours would go 50% on improving the security ?
if the road is private, any sort of use as a short cut should be discouraged, so a gate might be all thats required.
sadly with crime, its not the physical loss of an item of property thats generally the issue, its the dealing with being a victim of it which can be
tough. My parents neighbour was burgled years ago when I was a kid, and for years after it (even now) my folks still have rituals around gate and door
locking, engrained into them because of it.
I am living in rented at the moment, with a lot of passing trade, so I have those rituals myself, my next home will have reduced trade, and
opportunity for scrotes to "see" what Ive got.
Its more than likely because of your passing trade, you have been caught out as you provided a shiny article which caught their scrote like eyes.
Most crime is opportune, just see how it goes , you know what your area is like and whether its worth spending money on.
My guess is, its a one off and you have been caught out. Your local cop (community type) will be happy to offer some advice on security if you ask.
Failing that u2 me and email me some pictures, Im no expert but Ive seen most things a few times now and might be able to suggest a locost option.
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Originally posted by Canada EH!
The better half can not understand why I take the satnav off the window and put it in the glove box when the car is parked away from home, sits in a locked garage with security system at home (I like others on here am a retired police officer).
In the Uk - most cars are now stolen with the keys, so they screw your house for your keys, or you leave them in it while going to open your garage
door, or walking to the house with shopping bags etc. So when you go to bed take your car keys upstairs, contrary to popular belief burglars do not
like any sort of compromise while in the act, the last thing they want is the householder stirring and coming for a look or ringing the law.
They also steal older cars as the security is rubbish.
Organised teams will operate at a cash & carry, watch victims fill their vehicle with goodies, then do the vehicle while they go back in for more,
this occassionally happens with private cars but not too often.
Window film is good, as like you say it denies them the chance to see what you have, would you put the empty box from your recently purchased flat
screen TV out in the street for the bin collection ?, I wouldnt but a lot of people dont think about it, and still do.
Bit like asking me if I hang my police shirts on my washing line, or travel to and from work in uniform - the answer is certainly not, as I would be
playing my hand, and compromising my personal security.
When in a busy shopping centre, saturday afternoon full of happy shoppers, there are only two kinds of people aware of what is going on around them,
Police officers and criminals, the rest are shopping.
If you want a lock that operates from both sides, use a patio door dead-lock as they have a hook not just a straight bolt, thus stops the gates being
opened by simply pushing them open, as would happen with a normal dead-lock.
Tack weld the lock case to a bit of 6mm plate and then bolt this to one of the gates. Same for the keep on the othet gate.
Simple for a Locoster.
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Originally posted by T66
....When in a busy shopping centre, saturday afternoon full of happy shoppers, there are only two kinds of people aware of what is going on around them, Police officers and criminals, the rest are shopping.
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Originally posted by Angel Acevedo
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Originally posted by T66
....When in a busy shopping centre, saturday afternoon full of happy shoppers, there are only two kinds of people aware of what is going on around them, Police officers and criminals, the rest are shopping.
I am not a Cop, does that make me a criminal?
Actually, the key to safety is to think as a criminal....
At least it has worked for me....
I did a package with the Army on security and learned a hell of a lot about the different measures that can be taken.
There's two basic kinds of security - overt and covert.
As far as your property goes, a small amount of overt and a lot of overt is the way to go IMHO.
All security really does is slow people down in getting to their objective. The slower and harder it will be to negotiate your measures, the more
likely they are to get caught and they have to way up the risk. If you put loads of fences, gates, locks etc then all you're doing is
advertising that there's something worth having in there.
Denying any opportunist the chance to see something they might have a go at is the best way to go about it I think - if they don't know it's
there they won't take a chance.
As for the road - if it's private get a sign made up that states so, and that trespassing will not be tolerated. That will whittle down all the
innocent parties using a short cut - anyone else who comes through can therefore be treated as having an alterior motive.
CCTV is pretty cheap these days and can be hidden from sight so as not to give off that fresh 'something worth lifting' air. Ultimately, if
the buggers want to take something they will, but at least you can have the evidence to get them a gentle slap on the wrist and release into the
community to do it again 
Watch out for the return visit when they reckon you have got your replacement satnav...........
I should probably state that nothing was left on display, and the satnav doesn't mount to the window so there was no visible sign of it from the
outside this was a simple case of me or the missus failing to lock the door and an opportunist trying the handle. I should also probably mention that
I'm an Investigator in a the Financial Crime & Security arena so I'm aware of preventative measures, just unfortunately took the eye
off the ball on this occasion.
It's quite difficult to explain but basically the road I live on and another road nearby join at right angles, but you can cut a big chunk of the
corner off if you walk up my side path and out through our private road. We only use the side path once a week to put the bins out so a big locked
gate would be perfect as it would effectively make it a dead end.
The issue I had was not so much what to do, more how to do it as I want to be able to lock it from both sides but I think I've sorted that now.
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Originally posted by Canada EH!
The better half can not understand why I take the satnav off the window and put it in the glove box when the car is parked away from home, sits in a locked garage with security system at home (I like others on here am a retired police officer).
I have a gate on the back yard big enough not to see over so the kids used to jump and grab the top to look over. I greased the top and they
don't do it any more A friend of mine across the road left some change in his dash for car parks and such and his side window was smashed.
They got 70p and it cost him Ģ85 to get the damage fixed.
[Edited on 2/5/11 by Peteff]