Just residents north of the border to answer please
I'm interested to know what the general opinion of our Scottish contingent is ........ If Dave is successful and gets the referendum pushed
through sooner rather than later how would you vote?
Just residents north of the border to answer please
As long as they drop the border below cumbria london dosn,t even know we exist
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Originally posted by scootz
Linky
Ah!
Do we think that an early poll rather than waiting till 2014 will make much difference?
An early poll would probably lead nowhere. That's why the Nats are delaying things... so they can work a bit more on selling the concept.
Quite amusing, Dave bitching cos he doesn't want a bit of nationalist pride influencing the vote on the 700th anniversary of a certain battle
where the English lost and Alec is bitching because he wants a bit of nationalist pride influencing the vote on the 700th anniversary of a certain
battle where the English lost.
I find it amusing that Alex says they were elected giving them a clear mandate to vote on a referendum.
Funny thing is, the snp only has 69 from 129 seats in the Scottish parliament. Hardly an emphatic mandate, especially given that only about 30% voted
in the last general election.
I think the UK is stronger the way it is, but if Scotland left the union, the tories wouldn't need the coalition. Plus side fro everything I
suppose
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 9/1/12 by Simon]
Where's your
"Mmm, not sure right now, I'll have to think about it. It's a big question."
Option ?
I was hearing from a rather reliable source that if we go the wrong way, fat chins will try to align us with europe, we take on the euro, house prices
(pensions) will bottom out and lots of people will quickly go bankrupt.
also on the subject, scotland has roughly 6million people in it. take a guess at how many of them are net tax payers (ie people not being paid by the
government)... 185 thousand. So thats how many people will be upholding our country.
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Originally posted by A1
I was hearing from a rather reliable source that if we go the wrong way, fat chins will try to align us with europe, we take on the euro, house prices (pensions) will bottom out and lots of people will quickly go bankrupt.
also on the subject, scotland has roughly 6million people in it. take a guess at how many of them are net tax payers (ie people not being paid by the government)... 185 thousand. So thats how many people will be upholding our country.
Scotland cant hold its own, never will. In my opinion the only reason the SNP got into power is they are the best of a bad bunch. Politics is 5h1te to be honest it needs a revamp.
I'm not sure those figures are right see here fairly near the bottom
linky
looks like 2.5million taxpayers
with 288,000 higher rate which kind of stand to reason as the people who work in and around the rigs must live somewhere and pay tax.
Atleast if scotland got independence people in shop(back in england) would finally have a good reason to refuse the scottish notes I bring back from
aberdeen. 
Pete
Hope they get it. Save some money I hope via the difference that they get per head of population with everyone else apart from the Irish. Never see them complaining about that do we!!!
Been through the referendum thing. Waste of taxpayers' money, and causes no end of frustration for both sides. Personally, I'm a little bored with this "the English are so awful, and used to treat us badly" crap. English Canadians still get that from some of my neighbours. It's an emotional argument, and somehow people are "less Quebecer/Scottish/whatever you want that day" if they don't agree. Total BS because nobody will win.
I agree - entirely, the political system isn't working. For many varied reasons, the people that end up 'leading' aren't the best
people for the job. Vive the Technocrat, perish the Greed.
OK, so I'm not 'Scottish', I don't believe I am 'English', I am part of the UK. Independent Scotland, closely followed
by an Independent Wales and (of course) Kernow.... all that'll be left is the City of London..... hmmm...
So will Merkyl bail out an 'independent' Scotland, or does England continue to recycle independent Scottish Bonds as it does (in effect) at
present?
Anway, is all this a smokescreen to add to the political smoke and mirrors taking the sheeple's minds off more dire matters.... gives us a chance
to stock up on tinned food and shells, stretch out the razor wire and prepare for the R1oTs.
tbh, i can't think of anything worse than scotland not being part of the uk...
salmond is an arrogant c**k, anti britain, if they told him 'fine, scotland is to be removed from the uk' he'd disagree..
and yes i've been to the pub.
not sure yet if salmonds yet decided what to do about defence, imigration, an NHS, a DVLA, a currency etc etc... he's making promises he
can't keep, and as for a single party government, er no thanks... isn't that a dictatorship?
mum and dad from england, me born in soctland, not sure what that makes me, but defo british
[Edited on 10/1/12 by blakep82]
[Edited on 10/1/12 by blakep82]
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Originally posted by ali f27
As long as they drop the border below cumbria london dosn,t even know we exist
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Originally posted by scootz
Linky
Thought it was closer than that - within the 'London Financial District' keep em happy.
the rest of us can keep underwriting there bad decisions
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Check out this video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK6LkpfZ94s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
We might as well go on our own as nothing north of the watford gap counts anyway
I find it quite ironic that due to the innapropriateness of both questions and my refusing to participate for that reason, I have no clue what people
are voting.
Especially given that I actually live here.
Still, there you go.
As we say up here, maybes aye, maybes naw.
Edited to add - the above appears quite grumpy. Not intentional.
[Edited on 10/1/12 by zilspeed]
you can click the view results button john, its 16:5 to stay british.
I don't have a view results button.
I must be on a lite version of things. 
serious? For me, in the line above the vote boxes, it says:
poll: question for the scots [view results]
Every time "Dave" Cameron opens his mouth on the subject it drivers Scottish voters towards the welcoming arms of Alex Salmond.
As with his dealings with the Eurozone he should learn make his point in a way that dosen't put the backs up of those who are neutral or
undecided.
He should also learn not to included Tory party donors including Gerald Ronson, who was jailed for his part in the Guinness share-trading scandal.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080906/Cameron-faces-New-Year-honours-row-Conservative-donors-given-awards.html#ixzz1jHCr14wO
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Salmond is licking his lips because he knows he can eat David, Nick and Ed for breakfast every day of the week (and they know it too... they're
visibly terrified of debating with the man!).
Say what you like about him, but he's a (political) force to be reckoned with.
Cameron walked right into the most obvious trap the other day... real schoolboy stuff! The fact that a complete clown like 'Dave' is the PM
(and 'Ed' is the alternative) worries me more than Salmond winning his war!
Ignoring the politics behind who's playing what game, I don't know many scots in favour of complete separation. I'm not sure where I sit, I live here and have for a few years now, but I'm not sure whether it's a good idea for either party.
i don't think salmonds worked out what he's going to do if (and i'm actually really scared of if he does) he gets his way...
so far all i've heard from him is it'll be better for scotland. not actually heard HOW its better...
council tax has been frozen, right, what happens when that doesn't go as far as he needs? huge rise is taxes?
no prescription charges? again, as above
what are we going to do for a healthcare system? will there still be an NHS? whats going to pay for it? since there's no prescription charges and
tax freezes? or will one have to be set up again?
a currency? the Euro?! really?!
defence and military? he made such a fuss about the RAF bases closing up here, are westminster going to keep them here after independace? i doubt it.
besides, and scottish soldiers will be paid by westminter, not scotland. where will any taxes go there? (do soldiers pay tax? i don't know)
immigration and border control? setting that up won't be cheap.
what about a DVLA, that'll need set up too surely?
as i said, these are just things i'm thinking, i've not heard any real answers to any of this yet, but then i'm not sure of the back
ground on it, if it is an issue
salmond definietly knows how to butter up the voters right enough, and blow smoke up their bottoms, the same smoke used in his smoke and mirrors 
don't trust him in the slightest, any interview i've seen of him he's very childish, taking cheap shots at his critics. i think
he's a horrible man. remember that time he slagged some westminster MP, and everyone was calling for him to make an appology, all he did was
stand up and said, 'er, naw'
what this country needs (as in the UK) is to be stronger together, not causing disruption and seperation
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Thing is, he has a direct answer for absolutely every question on the subject of Scottish independence. I've never seen him 'lose' a debate on the subject... he always makes the other party look like they haven't a clue.
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Originally posted by scootz
Thing is, he has a direct answer for absolutely every question on the subject of Scottish independence. I've never seen him 'lose' a debate on the subject... he always makes the other party look like they haven't a clue.
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Salmond is licking his lips because he knows he can eat David, Nick and Ed for breakfast every day of the week (and they know it too... they're visibly terrified of debating with the man!).
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Originally posted by whitestu
So either Dave wins his fight with Salmond or the Tories get elected for ever in England.
Stu