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BUTTER OR MARGARINE.......
timf - 15/10/04 at 11:21 AM

DO YOU KNOW...the difference between margarine and butter?
Read on to the end...it gets very interesting! Both have the same amount of calories. Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams. Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53%
over eating the same amount of butter,according to a recent Harvard Medical Study. Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods. Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few
only because they are added!
Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods. Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years.
And now, for Margarine..
Very high in trans fatty acids...
Triple risk of coronary heart disease.
Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol)
Lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) ...
Increases the risk of cancers by up to five fold...
Lowers quality of breast milk
Decreases immune response..
Decreases insulin response.
And here are the most disturbing facts.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING!
Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC.......And margarine is initially BLACK, but it is DYED
YELLOW to look like butter.
These facts alone were enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this
means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance)..
YOU can try this yourself: purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area.
Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things: no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should tell you something) ... it does not rot or smell differently, because it has no nutritional value, nothing will grow on it...even those teeny weenie micro-organisms will not a find a home to grow.

Why? Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?


mangogrooveworkshop - 15/10/04 at 11:37 AM

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Why? Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?



My wife does that all the time . Whats wrong with that. We get pizza with molten plastic fused to the bottoms. Best of all she works in a hotel that serves serious posh nosh.!

Good one bout the marge


blueshift - 15/10/04 at 11:40 AM

Before anyone gets into a panic, I suggest taking that "article" with a large pinch of salt, and doing some real research into margerine vs butter. It's true that margerine is not god in a tub, but it's not THAT bad.

Beware of any "astounding health scares" that aren't from a reputable organisation like the WHO or FSA, or don't quote scientific research sources.

As for one molecule away from being plastic, what a load of rubbish. salt is one atom away from being toxic weedkiller you can make bombs with (sodium chlorate), it doesn't make it a bad idea to put salt on your chips.

[Edited on 15/10/04 by blueshift]


stephen_gusterson - 15/10/04 at 01:40 PM

water is one molecule away from being a gas isnt it? and all the oceans would float away.

I think timf's avatars body fat (bags) havnt turned out too badly.....




atb

steve


James - 15/10/04 at 03:04 PM

I didn't think putting salt on your food was good for you either!

James


blueshift - 15/10/04 at 04:12 PM

james: well, maybe not but not because it's "nearly weedkiller"


Peteff - 15/10/04 at 05:39 PM

No salt at all is also bad for you. It's all about moderation. Excess salt causes high blood pressure and is linked to kidney and liver problems while salt deprivation causes nausea,loss of appetite and weight and cramps. Complete salt loss results in vascular collapse(death)Lets not get carried away.


Hellfire - 15/10/04 at 09:26 PM

I heard that cholesterol was linked to libido - not sure whether he was pulling my pisser or not

Maybe a google would sort it?


Hellfire - 15/10/04 at 09:28 PM

OMG - a higher HDL cholesterol increases libido and in infact a natural aphrodisiac. Shit - where's that butter!!!


Peteff - 15/10/04 at 09:46 PM

Also a good lubricant. Don't spread it on too thick though, you'll only have to lick some off


stephen_gusterson - 15/10/04 at 10:35 PM

last tango in paris?


Peteff - 15/10/04 at 10:49 PM

Nice of you to offer though.


JoelP - 15/10/04 at 11:19 PM

the joys of my memory. i can remember from my uni days what HDLs and LDLs are, and maybe even what they look like, but i have not a clue about what they do, other than floating round...


Cita - 16/10/04 at 06:11 AM

I have been reading all this health stuff after my first corronary and stop reading it after my second one!!
It's all a big load of b"#lsh#t!

As Peteff said;to much salt will kill you-no salt will also kill you.

People with peace of mind live longer almost regardless of what they eat.


andyps - 16/10/04 at 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by blueshift
Beware of any "astounding health scares" that aren't from a reputable organisation like the WHO or FSA, or don't quote scientific research sources.



The only trouble with the research from these reputable sources is that it is generally provided, or sponsored, by those with a vested interest in promoting something. Look at GM foods, and the pharmaceutical industry trying to get vitamins banned.

Butter is a natural product, hydrogenated oils definitely aren't. I'll have butter please, everytime.


type r1 - 17/10/04 at 03:31 PM

there are margarines out there that contain no hydrogenated/trans fats. so it is possible to avoid the saturated fat that butter contains (don't try and tell me that saturated fat is beneficial to my health. look what happened to dr. atkins) and the hydrogenated or trans fats that most, but certainly not all, margarines contain.

read the labels.

dom.