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bt wall socket and plug replacement
02GF74 - 11/1/14 at 11:21 AM

Arrgggggghhhhh having to deal with demented robots in india...


Problem is the socket in the bt face plate is corroded and same prob on the plugs.


How easy is it to replace the plugs can it be done without the crinp took eg use a vice
Alternative is to run a new cable but that will be more hassle

Also walk socket presumably i am not allowed to change this ... but if i did and said a phone engineer did how woukd any one know


cliftyhanger - 11/1/14 at 11:31 AM

From my experiences, nobody will ever know/care if you change the socket on the wall. If there is an issue, the BT man will come along, shrug and fit a new one.
No idea about the plugs, they must be bodgeable though.


02GF74 - 11/1/14 at 11:36 AM

.... ok


One more q are these sockets available with built in filter and separate socket for phone and bband?


Slimy38 - 11/1/14 at 11:38 AM

I seem to remember needle nosed pliers work fine on the plugs, you just have to press each pin down individually.

And yes, while the BT engineers are responsible for the master socket, they never seem bothered or surprised if the house owners have replaced or repaired it.


Slimy38 - 11/1/14 at 11:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
.... ok


One more q are these sockets available with built in filter and separate socket for phone and bband?


Plenty on Ebay, either as complete sockets or as standard sockets and a replacement faceplate.


deezee - 11/1/14 at 11:50 AM

When I was doing wok on the house I just went B&Q or Wickes and picked up a new master socket. if they are available there, its deffo in the acceptable DIY spectrum.


02GF74 - 11/1/14 at 12:11 PM

.... ok


One more q are these sockets available with built in filter and separate socket for phone and bband?


02GF74 - 11/1/14 at 12:14 PM

Talktalk are taking the pi55 £50 for eng to come out but the best part is they wont come out until 24 jan .... so in the meantime i ll have a gi myself.
Maplins or ebay.

Anyone got link to master socket with both phone line and broadb sockets ir dud i dream this up?


whitestu - 11/1/14 at 12:17 PM

quote:

Anyone got link to master socket with both phone line and broadb sockets ir dud i dream this up?



I've never come across one.


David Jenkins - 11/1/14 at 12:20 PM

This is probably what you want:

Master socket bits

Go down the page to "Frequently bought together" and you'll see the bits you need - the master socket, the splitter/filter that replaces the lower part of the socket, and the tool used to push the wires into the connectors.


britishtrident - 11/1/14 at 01:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
.... ok


One more q are these sockets available with built in filter and separate socket for phone and bband?


Yes I been using one for about 6 years I bought it from the Broadband Nation website. pretty it will be getting replaced as I am going fttc.


matt_gsxr - 11/1/14 at 04:36 PM

I have read that there as some volts on these lines 50v.
Is there any hazard from this?


Slimy38 - 11/1/14 at 04:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
I have read that there as some volts on these lines 50v.
Is there any hazard from this?


Yep, telephone lines are 50 volts. Don't lick your fingers and hold each end...



Having worked on many telephone exchanges during my apprenticeship and accidentally shorted a fair few connections, I can confidently say it tingles but doesn't hurt that much.


mark chandler - 11/1/14 at 05:25 PM

Cheap master line jacks can impact your broadband speed so get a quality item.

You can easily push the wires in, some line jacks come with a disposable tool, okay it does not trim the wire like the correct crone will but you are only pushing the wire between two knive edges.


iank - 11/1/14 at 05:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
I have read that there as some volts on these lines 50v.
Is there any hazard from this?


50V is deemed to be touchable extra low voltage, i.e. you won't get a shock (just a tingle as said).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-low_voltage

[Edited on 11/1/14 by iank]


richard thomas - 11/1/14 at 06:05 PM

For what it's worth, I recently replaced my front door and accidentally tore the cables from the box...

I just twisted the wires together, works a treat...only a temp measure of course....but nobody can touch them so safe enough for now I guess....

I couldn't find my wire strippers at the time so removed insulation with my teeth....I did get a 'tingle' once......not particularly unpleasant, but I wouldn't do it as a hobby.....


David Jenkins - 11/1/14 at 08:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
I have read that there as some volts on these lines 50v.
Is there any hazard from this?


50V is deemed to be touchable extra low voltage, i.e. you won't get a shock (just a tingle as said).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-low_voltage

[Edited on 11/1/14 by iank]


Except when ringing current is being sent - that's 80v AC - got many a belt when wiring distribution frames in telephone exchanges when I were a lad... not fatal, but it makes you jump enough to slam the back of your hand into the wiring block opposite to the one you're working on, leaving a symmetrical set of puncture wounds in your skin...


DavidW - 11/1/14 at 09:08 PM

I did ours, easy enough although a bit fiddly.

Buy a tool to press the wires into the terminals to avoid reliability problems. I'm sure mine was only about a quid on eBay.

David


Slimy38 - 11/1/14 at 09:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins

Except when ringing current is being sent - that's 80v AC - got many a belt when wiring distribution frames in telephone exchanges when I were a lad... not fatal, but it makes you jump enough to slam the back of your hand into the wiring block opposite to the one you're working on, leaving a symmetrical set of puncture wounds in your skin...


I used to do that accidentally to a friend when extending exchanges. We couldn't use automated testing for the lines for fear of affecting existing lines so we had to call each and every line. I could dial faster than he could connect, so by the time he plugged the phone in it was already ringing.... he eventually got quicker at it!!


matt_gsxr - 12/1/14 at 12:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins

Except when ringing current is being sent - that's 80v AC - got many a belt when wiring distribution frames in telephone exchanges when I were a lad... not fatal, but it makes you jump enough to slam the back of your hand into the wiring block opposite to the one you're working on, leaving a symmetrical set of puncture wounds in your skin...


I used to do that accidentally to a friend when extending exchanges. We couldn't use automated testing for the lines for fear of affecting existing lines so we had to call each and every line. I could dial faster than he could connect, so by the time he plugged the phone in it was already ringing.... he eventually got quicker at it!!



Your words paint great pictures. Its not the electricity that gets you but the jumping off the ladder that might.


deezee - 12/1/14 at 01:22 AM

BT provide a signal cable. Yeah its 50v but its running 10-40 ma. Its nothing. My phone charger is 2 amp and thats not going to do much. I'd be more terrified of a 12v car battery than a 50v BT cable.


Peteff - 12/1/14 at 10:25 AM

My mate lost his phone and broadband and contacted Talk Talk and they had Openreach there next day and as it was the main socket into the house it was repaired free.


vysie - 22/1/14 at 09:47 PM

50v dc rising to 75ac on a call if i remember right nothing but a tingle its only 2 wires to swop to a new face plate 5 mins work. or nab open reach when outside offer em a drink to change it? i once had a call out i kid you not at 11pm 1 xmas eve the job came through as electrical issue so rushed to job lady opens door crying so alright love whats the problem.......................lady my phone dont work!!!!!!!!!! it was a new build house and a newish contract for me at the time, lets see your bt master..................lady its not fitted yet! sign her please i cant work magic


splitrivet - 23/1/14 at 12:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by deezee
BT provide a signal cable. Yeah its 50v but its running 10-40 ma. Its nothing. My phone charger is 2 amp and thats not going to do much. I'd be more terrified of a 12v car battery than a 50v BT cable.

OK I'll ask you to hold a the A/B wires of a phone line then give you a call, it aint nice.
Cheers,
Bob