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Buying Private Plates
ReMan - 18/2/05 at 11:19 PM

Noobie question on this topic!!! In preperation for a bitrthday present for she who is being particularly "understanding" with the build!
I am considering buying a "private plate" for my wife, for her car (which she loves too much)
I have searched one or two of the dealers websites and also what appears to be the DVLA one.
I can find the plate i`m interested in on them all.


Any experience/input would be most appreciated. I cant afford the time to do the full 6 months research on this one

[Edited on 19/2/05 by ReMan]


ray.h. - 19/2/05 at 12:43 AM

Apply directly to DVLA and if the number is not held on retension by someone they will be happy to sell it to you.I dont think they are open to haggling.Some realy interesting numbers will be held back and sold at auction by them to get the best return.


Jon Ison - 19/2/05 at 08:21 AM

The plate of interest to me is

JON 150N i searched for it then went to DVLA as suggested above, they came back to me and told me it had never been issued, they now mail me once a month with auction details, i offerd to buy it at there valuation but they said i must by it at auction if and when they put it up for sale, has yet they hav,nt, 3 years now ?


colibriman - 19/2/05 at 08:45 AM

Is there any chance of price negotiation from either the DVLA or a dealer?


Colin,

My mate has just bought his Mrs a plate for valentines day, he managed to get a decent discount from one agency - he managed to get one advertised at 1250 down to 1K - so its worth trying

HTH
Colin


phelpsa - 19/2/05 at 08:59 AM

My dad got a discout because he bought to matching. He got R200OJP and T200OJP for £750 when they were advertised at £500 each.

Adam


Jon Ison - 19/2/05 at 09:11 AM

if you do see one advertised at an agency go too the DVLA for a price, a lot of the plates advertised by agencys are with the DVLA anyway, scour the adds you will see the same number advertised several times by different people, they know its for sale/available, advertise it, you show interest, they buy it, add there mark up then sell it onto you. Not true of numbers on retention ect but check out the adds, search the number on several sites, you will be amazed how many are working like this, easy money, no stock to carry.


Hellfire - 19/2/05 at 09:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ray.h.
Apply directly to DVLA and if the number is not held on retension by someone they will be happy to sell it to you.I dont think they are open to haggling.Some realy interesting numbers will be held back and sold at auction by them to get the best return.


The government into 'carpet bagging' never!


RoadkillUK - 19/2/05 at 10:12 AM

When I bought mine (see sad avatar) I saw it on many sites, but the best place to go is the DVLA as the will have the lowest prices and the price also included the transfer, all you will have to pay for is 2 new plates making up.

The dealers know what reg's are available from the DVLA and then add their cut then you have to pay the £80 transfer fee to the DVLA too. Once you pay one of the 'dealers' they will buy it from the DVLA and then sell it to you.

And now to summorise.

If it's on the DVLA website then it's not been issued yet.
Yes
Yes
I don't know about negotiations but I really doubt you will get a better price that from the DVLA.

HTH


donut - 19/2/05 at 10:44 AM

Mr Ison is absolutely right. The DVLA hold nearly all the plates and other companies just sell on their behalf and put a profit ontop for themselves.

Go direct to DVLA, no hidden charges and they are probably the cheapest.


andkilde - 19/2/05 at 02:09 PM

No help but a few comments/questions.

Here in Canada the system is quite open and straightforward -- new plates (as issued) are $10, personalized plates are $100 and you can add the logo of your favorite charity, organization or sports team at varying fixed prices. There is no formalized system for transferring existing plates between owners, but I imagine if you convince someone to turn in a cherished number and subsequently are first to apply for it it may work out.

The bad part is our plates are ugly and of a fixed size, shape and colour.

The question part...

You guys pay 500 to 1250 pounds for registration numbers? Are you completely mad? Or just a little crazy?


Jon Ison - 19/2/05 at 02:18 PM

£1250 is the bottom end, you can pay ??? well the skys the limit......


phelpsa - 19/2/05 at 02:19 PM

If I remember correctly, K1 NGS went for nearly £1 million!!!!


andkilde - 19/2/05 at 02:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
£1250 is the bottom end, you can pay ??? well the skys the limit......


That's it then -- cheaper for you to move to Canada


phelpsa - 19/2/05 at 02:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by andkilde
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
£1250 is the bottom end, you can pay ??? well the skys the limit......


That's it then -- cheaper for you to move to Canada


I suppose you could just make do with an ordinary plate


andkilde - 19/2/05 at 02:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
If I remember correctly, K1 NGS went for nearly £1 million!!!!


Hmmn, poor fellow, so he had a BMW motorcycle and belonged to the National Geographic Society then, eh?


jack trolley - 19/2/05 at 04:08 PM

from Govt. Auction News:

quote:

On 10th December 1993 a mystery buyer paid a staggering £235,000 for the personalised registration K1 NGS.


Peteff - 19/2/05 at 04:36 PM

My van has a wierd plate, Northern Island plate with 3 letters and 4 numbers. It came with the van though. I think I agree with andkilde on this one. I know a couple of people who bought cherished numbers then got nicked for not displaying them properly spaced etc. and have to pay again to put them on a replacement vehicle when they swap cars.


phelpsa - 19/2/05 at 04:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jack trolley
from Govt. Auction News:
quote:

On 10th December 1993 a mystery buyer paid a staggering £235,000 for the personalised registration K1 NGS.




Thats the one, I was thinking £835,000.

Adam


ReMan - 20/2/05 at 11:37 AM

Thanks chaps, I think i`ll persue buying from the DVLA and see what happens. Being naturally cautious I think i`ll do an in principle conversation with them before I telll them which plate it is, just in case the price gets "adjusted" in line with interest
Cheers


JoelP - 20/2/05 at 12:00 PM

when it come to mis-spacing of private plates, its best to leave the rear one standard, and the front one hacked up if you so choose - much less chance of getting pulled, and if you do there is the chance the cop will appreciate the fact that the rear one is standard and go easy on you.

i must say jon, you are rather luck to have a name that fits straight onto a plate! ive never seen 'joel' on a plate lookig good... maybe J8ELS of somesuch! or maybe more obvious, J8ELP (reads too much like chelping (womens wittering))


Snuggs - 20/2/05 at 12:34 PM

I wanted to buy a plate from DVLA. (CBV 835 L)
As it had never been issued they would not sell it direct and insisted that it went in an auction. Cos my car was not ready when the auction came up and I was not sure if I would get an age related plate I didn't bother buying.
I was told by DVLA that if the plate did not sell at auction then it would NEVER be available again.

So they lost a sale and I have lost the chance to get the plate I wanted.

W4nk3r$


Jon Ison - 20/2/05 at 01:42 PM

yup Joel, its the perfect plate for me, the fact that it as "N" at the end makes it relativley cheap, JON 150W would fetch under £1k at DVLA aution so i expect JON 150N to be around the same, trouble is in 3 years they aint put it up for sale yet.


ChrisW - 20/2/05 at 07:25 PM

The other trick to the number plate game - if the DVLA *don't* list it, it means the plate is already owned by someone. If you're serious about buying it....

1. Go to one of these online insurance quote places where they work out the car type from your plate (I think confused.com works like this). You'll have to make up a few details, but if the car details come up it will tell you the plate is on a car rather than a certificate

2. Assuming it's on a car, get a HPi mini check thing for about £10 which gives you the owners name

3. Ring him/her up and arrange a price without the middle man taking his commision

Chris


Bart69 - 20/2/05 at 07:50 PM

Hi guys great site been reading for about a year know so time for my first post.
If your locost is registered with a Q plate can you then change to a private plate.


stevebubs - 20/2/05 at 08:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bart69
Hi guys great site been reading for about a year know so time for my first post.
If your locost is registered with a Q plate can you then change to a private plate.


I don't think so. A Q is a Q and can't be changed.


Bart69 - 20/2/05 at 08:08 PM

Thats a bummer back to looking for a complete sierra donor then. Cheers


Jon Ison - 20/2/05 at 08:24 PM

stand back and think a little, "Q" is very handy at MOT time and dont carry the stigma it once did.


JoelP - 20/2/05 at 09:06 PM

plus the rumour of personal Q's soon...

Q11EER anyone?!


Hellfire - 20/2/05 at 09:11 PM

Is it not cheaper to change your name by deed poll. That way you can call yourself whatever your registration no is.

Yours. DG54 XPZ

PS. Just call me Dee for short.


Bart69 - 20/2/05 at 09:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
stand back and think a little, "Q" is very handy at MOT time and dont carry the stigma it once did.


Why is it handy at MOT time.

Still trying to get up to speed slowly


JoelP - 20/2/05 at 10:18 PM

easier emissions test! visable smoke test only, pretty much a dead cert pass unless its buggered


clbarclay - 20/2/05 at 10:27 PM

Personally the best are normal plates that make good anagrams.

Family owned a range rover once with the plate C808 UFK , just right for high society.


Bart69 - 20/2/05 at 10:32 PM

Bought a gte F reg redtop 2 days ago mainly thinking of the age for emissions being pre cat

what an idiot


then again 153 bhp i think i can live with it


Peteff - 20/2/05 at 10:56 PM

If you use a single donor and just the engine from the vauxhall you should still qualify for an age related plate. Axles, steering and gearbox should do it. There was a Volvo 340 round here a couple of years ago with the plate VWA 110Y (VW ALLOY) and the car sold for £350. A friend of mine had a Mk2 Escort STU 7R which he sold for £300 years ago. The bloke he sold it to sold the number straight on for £450.

[Edited on 20/2/05 by Peteff]


Bart69 - 20/2/05 at 11:37 PM

I think an age related plate will do for now with my initials a personal plate wouldn't be pretty.


Benzine - 20/2/05 at 11:59 PM

I want 'MU51CAL' but that's never going to happen


Peteff - 21/2/05 at 12:45 AM

Keep practising, you'll get MU51CAL one day.


ReMan - 21/2/05 at 10:54 PM

Believe it or not my "donor" cars plate has MK in it completely by chance! Ive got the car on a SWORN even though the bodys long gone crushed, hoping to keep it come reg time, thats near enough a free private plate.
Unless of course someone reckons I cant transfer it / use the points system, or its got to have 12 months MOT, tax and a full tank of fuel for that to happen