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Jackson: guilty or not?
JoelP - 4/3/05 at 10:28 PM

well? any guesses?


Cita - 4/3/05 at 10:32 PM

Who cares?


JoelP - 4/3/05 at 10:35 PM

true enough! humour me, for curiosities sake...


gazza285 - 4/3/05 at 10:54 PM

Guilty of what?

a) Kiddy fiddling.
b) Music murdering.
c) Mass market coruption.
d) Plastic surgery disaster.
e) Advertising Pepsi.


JoelP - 4/3/05 at 11:00 PM

plastic surgery? never...


Cita - 4/3/05 at 11:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
plastic surgery? never...


I did'nt know that either


clbarclay - 5/3/05 at 12:25 AM

Guilty of being total devoid of the reality that exists out side his own little world.


Cita - 5/3/05 at 07:25 AM

If people are close enough to waco jacko to have their kids invited by him than they surely must have know of his alledged "tendency's"(not sure if this is proper English) towards children.
As a precaution and if i had kids i never would allow them to stay with a person like waco jacko only if it was to avoid possible problems futurewise.
It only takes a few words to start a whole media offensive.
I remember the case of a girl in Holland where she "confessed" at school i believe it was,that she was abused by here father.
The poor man ended in hell,and his family as well,just to discover that the whole thing was a matter of bad communication and improper police investigation.
When there's possibly money involved than things are very sensitive.
I dont like waco jacko but one has to be very carefull with media controlled court cases.


nick205 - 5/3/05 at 09:08 AM

Don't know if he's guilty or not, but I don't believe it's possible for him to receive a fair trial. I also think he was shafted from day one with the family (parents in particular) he grew up in. IMHO

Nick


marcyboy - 5/3/05 at 10:49 AM

lets face it!! anyone who wants to look like the child catcher from chitty chitty bang bang must be odd ...sex case ....HANG HIM or just put him in general population...


britishtrident - 5/3/05 at 12:56 PM

Personally I feel Jacko should be free to marry Camila and the hunting of hiers to the throne with packs of foxes should be legalised.


Stu16v - 5/3/05 at 02:14 PM

Jacko will be fine, he's using OJ Simpsons lawyer...


clbarclay - 5/3/05 at 02:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by marcyboy
or just put him in general population...


As apposed to what, put him in a young affenders institute?


Hellfire - 5/3/05 at 03:38 PM

I didn't poll on this survey.

He is surely innocent until proven guilty. Anyone who leaves their children with someone they don't really know is IMHO ignoring their parental responsibilities.

Considering how the defendant allegedly grew up - it is typical of the 'ignorance' or otherwise, of the parents involved. Despite the elaborate lifestyle, strange attitude of self-worth and odd behaviour - it's possibly the last person I'd leave my precious children with - but not because of his reputation - it speaks for itself.

The prosecutioners are parasites, however you want to put it.


marcyboy - 5/3/05 at 04:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by clbarclay
quote:
Originally posted by marcyboy
or just put him in general population...


As apposed to what, put him in a young affenders institute?


as opposed to segregation!!
it would make association more enjoyable...


Mark Allanson - 5/3/05 at 08:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cita
Who cares?


The little lad with the sore bum probably


stephen_gusterson - 5/3/05 at 11:19 PM

i am waiting for the first bit of evidence that he actually did something - and not just the words of someone that would stand to gain money from it.

monica lewinsky had her dress. if something happend would the kids underwear or something not be A1 evidence?

jackson is a screwed up person cos he had a weird and isolated childhood, and now has a weird and isolated adulthood. people fall over backwards for him cos they want to have his favour and money. no one, i guess, has ever told him to stop being a twat and be normal.

if he really was a kiddy groper, why did the kid look so happy with him on the bashir documentary? why did it take so long for him to complain? why did he then decide, on the back of the documentary furore, to then shout foul? surely not cos of the opportunity? And in that case, why didnt he get 'monica style' evidence.

Why have no others of the zillion kids that went to his place not also complained of assault?

something is weird here.

also take into account that the us justice system had its prosecutors re-elected by the public. what a way to get your name up there.

wether or not he is guilty, i dont think that the trial can be fair - too many reasons for people to want his guilt so they can sue for gain

atb

steve

[Edited on 5/3/05 by stephen_gusterson]


Cita - 6/3/05 at 07:42 AM

I dunno what's wrong with me but i agree with Gusto here


woodster - 7/3/05 at 10:54 AM

I'd just like to say if I was a Billionare kiddy toucher I would have a THEME PARK in my back garden !!!!............. funny he only seems to share his bed with little boys never little girls and says he loves children??


stephen_gusterson - 7/3/05 at 07:42 PM

if you want to be more specific, none of them seem to be white either...... the kid making the accusations is hispanic or something, isnt he?


atb

steve

[Edited on 7/3/05 by stephen_gusterson]


clbarclay - 7/3/05 at 09:16 PM

So only boys and only non caucasian children, even if he's not a fiddler, he could still be racist and sexist.


marcyboy - 7/3/05 at 09:23 PM

male and brown but not necessarily human

it might explain his rendition of i'm forever blowing bubbles,


stephen_gusterson - 7/3/05 at 11:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by clbarclay
So only boys and only non caucasian children, even if he's not a fiddler, he could still be racist and sexist.


the sister of the boy had visited. she already gave evidence.

kiddie fiddling gets 21 years, sexism and racism doesnt....

would he been as daft to admit he slept in the same room as the kids in the documentary if he was doing more than that? also, today, the brother said that jacko slept in the same room - they ha dhis bed, he the floor. Im still not seeing any really conclusive evidence - its all pretty waffly. today theres been 'may have given alcohol, but not sure cos i didnt quite see the can' - 'may have seen porn sites'. none of these are kiddy fiddling.

personally, and i could be wrong, i think hes asexual, and is some kinda emotionally underdeveloped kid in a 46 year old body. he had no childhood as he spent it all as a superstar and getting pressurised by his father. as a result hes gone weird, and is trying to be some kinda peter pan and not grow up,. think he said as much in the documentary.

im no blind fan - or even more of a fan than any ttypical person. its just that i think something is very wrong in the case......


surely, they have physical evidence from a doctor.... clue is in marks post earlier....

atb

steve



[Edited on 7/3/05 by stephen_gusterson]


woodster - 8/3/05 at 03:22 PM

He's a 46 year old man that sleep's with little boy's if that was happening in your street I'm sure you would wonder what was going on ......... it's not normal behaviour !!!!


flak monkey - 8/3/05 at 03:34 PM

I agree with most of what Steve has said...and dont have anything to add...just thought i would say i agree...

David

PS: Just for the record I dont like Michael Jackson. I think he is a weirdo and very strange. AFAIK theres no evidence pointing to guilty....so innocent it is until the verdict. Then if it comes through guilty with no conclusive evidence i would say it was a fix of some kind...

I'm just waiting for it to be thrown out/deemed inconclusive, or stopped through the unfair trial/too much media route that often happens with these high profile cases.

[Edited on 8/3/05 by flak monkey]


stephen_gusterson - 8/3/05 at 10:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by woodster
He's a 46 year old man that sleep's with little boy's if that was happening in your street I'm sure you would wonder what was going on ......... it's not normal behaviour !!!!


if i had someone in my street that was a major star, could moonwalk, dangled his kids from windows, had a monkey as a friend, a theme park in his garden, had turned white from black, and acts like a 46 year old 10 year old, i would think he was very strange.

I wouldnt say that it would make him a kiddy groper tho.

if the family said they were in it only for the justice, and wanted no compensation, and signed to that effect, i would believe them.

hell, id have sex with jackson for 20m quid! (well, possibly....)

atb

steve


woodster - 9/3/05 at 10:11 AM

well said stevefair point


liam.mccaffrey - 9/3/05 at 06:18 PM

there doesn't seem to be anything concrete but all is not right with jacko. i'm not sure he is a kiddy groper but one thing is for sure he won't get a fair trial and i cant see his career surviving this, excuse the pun but no one is going to touch him after this, even if he does get off