I just heard there has been a couple of bombs gone off.
not necessarily bombs though, a power surge was implicated...
Yup, quite a few in fact, and buses too.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659093.stm
The power people have denied a power surge in the area.
Only 16 miles from me, and a lot of friends working there....
Its all on tv now.....
Fozzie
So far, 5 stations reporting probable bombs, and explosions on 3 buses.
David
(In the City)
Although there's also been an explosion on a bus that blew the top off - that wouldn't be a power surge...
Pete
i was gonna mention that! apparently 3 buses now.
i think the g8 protestors are taking it a bit far... (poor joke, sorry...)
At least one of our locosters works in that very area, I have just texted him (about 10 minutes ago)...still waiting for a reply...
Fozzie
It could be Olympics related - if i remember correctly there were attacks in Greece when they had it
Pete
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
At least one of our locosters works in that very area, I have just texted him (about 10 minutes ago)...still waiting for a reply...
Fozzie
i'm ok, phone networks are up and down like yoyo's here.
was evacuated from waterloo and walked as far as russell square to find the bomb guys closed the road. got to work opposite euston via an alternative
route and am picking up the propoganda from internet news websites.
i heard the taviton place bus blast go off, def not a power surge, heard reports of bus blowing up and people dead/injured...
what fun i will have getting home today/tonight
Ned.
ps fozzie got yer message, but phone networks up the shoot.
[Edited on 7/7/05 by ned]
quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
At least one of our locosters works in that very area, I have just texted him (about 10 minutes ago)...still waiting for a reply...
Fozzie
The phone networks are probably jammed with people phoning and texting friends and family so I shouldn't worry if you don't get a reply immediately. Who is it that works there?
Pete
Way-hay great to hear ya safe Ned
Speak laters
Fozzie
Mobile phone networks are shutdown as they're used for detonators.
The Guardian is mentioning people covered in blood and people with missing limbs and sh1t Looks like the last big one in Madrid
[Edited on 7/7/05 by Alez]
so, any bets who these f&$kers are ?
i know who i put my money on but looks like could be this "protest " mob at G8 or something to do with olympics.
hope thry get the f****rs and string them up by the balls
Glad you're ok Ned
My wife works in Hammersmith and a bomb went off just down the road from her so i was havving kittens when i head (i was in Tesco's at the time)
so i rushed home but she's ok. Christ knows how people are going to get home tonight.
Looks like the BBC's network is overloaded/damaged. Can't get on the site at the moment.
[root@rb2-2 root]# mtr -r -c 100 www.bbc.co.uk
HOST LOSS RCVD SENT BEST AVG WORST
xpe-gw0.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk 0% 100 100 0.48 28.79 185.61
212.58.238.153 0% 100 100 0.37 3.76 148.19
212.58.238.33 0% 100 100 0.47 0.58 0.82
212.58.255.213 0% 100 100 69.26 69.57 70.60
rt0.111ny.bbc.co.uk 0% 100 100 69.41 81.12 305.68
212.58.255.202 0% 100 100 69.53 69.96 71.07
www2.thny.bbc.co.uk 0% 100 100 69.91 70.36 71.28
Bin Laden would be my bet......
BBC pundits have him as favourite at the moment.
So its not the French Olympic committee then?
quote:
Originally posted by ned
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was evacuated from waterloo and walked as far as russell square to find the bomb guys closed the road. got to work opposite euston via an alternative route and am picking up the propoganda from internet news websites.
i heard the taviton place bus blast go off, def not a power surge, heard reports of bus blowing up and people dead/injured...
what fun i will have getting home today/tonight
Ned.
_____________________________________
but at least you can go home today some can't
but what doesn't help is the dumbing down of the whole thing
...only 2 confirmed deaths ...did anyone see the bus that got blasted apart and it was packed.
i thought we'd seen the last of this type of thing.
bastards!!! when they find who done it maybe they could execute any blood relatives "BNP" time...drastic but needed i think
DaveFJ - 7/7/05 at 11:33 AMJust waiting for Ken Clarke to come on now and tell us all how ID cards would have stopped it ...........
Just hope everyone on this site and their freinds/relatives are OK
My sympathy goes out to all those who are/know the injured and dead - I'm sure the death toll will grow considerably by the end of the day
A sad day
[Edited on 7/7/05 by DaveFJ]
[Edited on 7/7/05 by DaveFJ]
nicksertis - 7/7/05 at 11:39 AMI just got off the phone to my girlfriend, apparently the train I got off at Holborn might have been the one that crashed or whatever at Russel Square. I was supposed to stay on it but thought I'd walk the rest of the way. Think I'll be walking home tonight too...
Fozzie - 7/7/05 at 11:46 AMquote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
Just waiting for Ken Clarke to come on now and tell us all how ID cards would have stopped it ...........
Just hope everyone on this site and their freinds/relatives are OK
My sympathy goes out to all those who are/know the injured and dead - I'm sure the death toll will grow considerably by the end of the day
A sad day
[Edited on 7/7/05 by DaveFJ]
[Edited on 7/7/05 by DaveFJ]
Absolutely Dave!
Just heard that the emergency services from my town are now being drafted in to help.
Glad you are safe Nick, fingers crossed for the other(s) I know of that haven't has yet 'signed' in on the site....communications I know are difficult..
Fozzie
ned - 7/7/05 at 11:50 AMmy building is now within the cordoned off area and i don't think i'm allowed out
Ned.
santcliff - 7/7/05 at 11:51 AMI'm at Barbican and it is spookily quiet.
Advice from our corporate incidedent control group is to stay inside.
Not looking forward to tyring to get home via moorgate and liverpool street. Glad i'm an early bird.
stuart
DaveFJ - 7/7/05 at 11:57 AMwe have been trying to arrange hotels for all our staff in London but there is not a bed to be had.....
[Edited on 7/7/05 by DaveFJ]
David Jenkins - 7/7/05 at 11:58 AMAt the moment trains are only going forward from Shenfield...
David
(who lives about 15 miles further north from Colchester)
santcliff - 7/7/05 at 12:08 PMgot to get home today. dyno session tomorrow!
been looking for a local halfords - its been a while since i've done 50 miles on a bike in one day and just as long since i've cycled on the a12!
s-(
woodster - 7/7/05 at 12:28 PMGlad to here Ned and Donuts missus are o.k................. looks like a lot of people have'nt been so lucky ......... a very sad day and for what!!!!!! F*CK ALL
wheelsinsteadofhooves - 7/7/05 at 12:29 PMgood luck with the bike. cycled in this morning from angel to just around the corner from ned's, and mission of a journey. glad im lazy though and slept in as if id been on time my route goes past 3 of the blast sites!
big diversions this morning and eerie quite punctured by sirens and helicopters. very wierd. just went to get lunchtime sandwich and everything cordened off.
freaky place to be right now.
Fozzie - 7/7/05 at 12:35 PMWoo-Hoo, Great to hear from you Zane!
Us 'WLM' (and others) have been worried about you this morning! I knew your routes took in the scenes of this mornings devastations
I hope everyone elses (on the site) friends/loved ones are also safe and well.
Fozzie
ayoungman - 7/7/05 at 12:37 PMI've got a 15 year old daugther on Work Experience on the Strand. She's OK but I've somehow got to get into London to get her out !
wheelsinsteadofhooves - 7/7/05 at 12:47 PMcould be a very long journey. best i can make out pretty much all roads are no go/gridlocked, esp around the major stations.
hope all other locoster and their family and friends are ok too.
pbura - 7/7/05 at 12:56 PMBy Holden Frith, Times Online
0849 BST: The first explosion occurs on the Metropolitan Line between Liverpool Street and Aldgate
0922: King's Cross and Edgware Road stations evacuated. The entire London Underground network is evacuated soon after
0928: Metronet, a Tube maintenance company, reports that the explosions have been caused by a power surge
0933: An explosion is reported at Edgware Road
0934: A police spokesman says there are "walking wounded" at Aldgate
0946: Explosions are reported at King's Cross and Russell Square Tube stations
0951: Scotland Yard declares a "major incident" on the London Underground. Overground trains are diverted from Moorgate to King's Cross
0952: A British Transport Police spokesman says that two Tube trains are stuck in tunnels near Edgware Road
0953: Rescue workers report several injuries at Edgware Road
1000: The National Grid reports that there has been no power surge that might have contributed to the incident
1013: Union officials report that there has been at least one explosive device on the London Underground
1016: Witnesses report an explosion on a bus at Russell Square
1019: Some mainline rail companies close lines in central London and terminate trains outside the capital. People are urged not to travel to London
1023: Scotland Yard says there are reports of an explosion at Moorgate
1035: Metropolitan Police confirm that there has been an explosion on a bus in Tavistock Square, near Russell Square in Central London
1120: The Army is patrolling the streets of Covent Garden
1130: Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, confirms that there have been six blasts in London and that traces of explosives have been found at at least one site
1138: A City of London Police spokeswoman confirms that two people have died at Aldgate
1139: A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman says that armed police and the Army have sealed off the area around the palace
1214: Tony Blair says that it is "reasonably clear" that the explosions were the result of terrorism
1216: Police have been called to Leicester Square Underground station, according to the London Ambulance Service
1224: Der Spiegel, a German news magazine, reports that responsibility for the attacks has been claimed by a group calling itself the "Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda of Jihad Organization in Europe" in a message posted on an unnamed website popular with Islamic militants
1234: Washington DC's underground system tightens security, sending armed police and sniffer dogs to patrol the network. Security is also stepped up in New York
1244: Police say that several people died in the bus bombing at Tavistock Square
1245: Police confirm "a number of fatalities" at Edgware Road Tube station
1256: The Home Secretary tells the House of Commons that "a number of terrorist attacks" have occurred in Central London, including at least four explosions: one at Edgware Road Tube station, one on the Tube between Aldgate and Liverpool Street stations, one between Russell Square and King's Cross stations and one on a bus at Tavistock Square
1303: Brian Paddick, the deputy assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, says that 150 people have been seriously injured. There was no specific warning about the attacks, he says
From http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1684296,00.html
I wish to express my deepest heart-felt sympathy for those affected by these tragedies.
Pete
ned - 7/7/05 at 12:58 PMwell, after our office beaurocrat's (SP?) got their finger out they've announced we can go home, reclaim any additional travel expenses and not bother even trying to get in tomorrow! trouble is i'm meant to be attending the queen concert in hyde park tomorrow afternoon
at least south west trains seem to be running from waterloo, so i just gotta there by foot
Ned.
ps is 1000 views in 3.5 hours a record for this thread?
[Edited on 7/7/05 by ned]
donut - 7/7/05 at 01:10 PMNice one Ned, hope my Mrs can get home
quote:
i thought we'd seen the last of this type of thing.
This sort of thing will carry on for the rest of our lives and beyond!!!!!!
Andrew+dad - 7/7/05 at 01:29 PM"1303: Brian Paddick, the deputy assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, says that 150 people have been seriously injured. There was no specific warning about the attacks, he says
"
when i was watching the news it was saying atleat 90 serious injuried at aldgate and the people coming out from the exploded trains were saying in the carriages that they assume the bomb as in the floor was littered with bodies
i hope not too many people have died and im glad to hear that a fair few of you are alright ... ive never been more glad that my mum is on holiday as one of the trins that was bombed is a train she would normally be on .
Still waiting to hear back from her as 18 of her colleagues did not turn up for work and they all come in from that direction i hope they are alright ..
somehow i doubt it was anything to do with the olympic bid as it seems to organised to have been thought up overnight and its not as obviously linked with 9/11 as the madrid bombings were because they were 911 days after 9/11 and there are no such blindingly obvious links ...
i hope they catch whoever is responsible
marktigere1 - 7/7/05 at 01:51 PMJust heard that my cousin is okay at 2.45pm.
Not heard from him all day. Was starting to get a bit worried.
Hope other people get good news soon.
All the best.
Mark
locogeoff - 7/7/05 at 01:55 PMA collegue of mine here pointed something out of interest
Given the al Qaeda website announcement
Since we can prosecute kids for downloading music from the web without paying, how can we not find out exactly where the computer was that this announcement was set up from and take appropriate action
Danozeman - 7/7/05 at 01:58 PMI was waiting for something like this to happen. It was only a matter of time.
Hope everyones ok and my condolences for ppl injured or killed because of them f***ers.
I have to say though i blame Blair for going to war!
Stuart Ainslie - 7/7/05 at 02:42 PMNot a fun day today...
I'm contracted to work with the London Underground at one of their train depots in Golders Green.
Underground station and bus terminus right next to where I work !
Then right in the middle of the action, they discover a suspect package at the entrance gates and tell us we are all stuck in until it is cleared
As soon as I could, I jumped in the car and hot-tailed it home early !
Just heard, 33 confirmed dead now
Cita - 7/7/05 at 02:47 PMTime to cut the tolerance to acceptable levells!
nicksertis - 7/7/05 at 02:49 PMquote:
Originally posted by locogeoff
A collegue of mine here pointed something out of interest
Given the al Qaeda website announcement
Since we can prosecute kids for downloading music from the web without paying, how can we not find out exactly where the computer was that this announcement was set up from and take appropriate action
It was more than likely sent from an internet cafe or the like, which wouldn't be traceable to a person even if it was in the UK. Tracing this sort of thing also requires authority over or cooperation from the website as well as the ISP that the person connected through, which we probably dont have in this case.
Thats how I understand it anyway,
Nick
[Edited on 7/7/05 by nicksertis]
TimC - 7/7/05 at 03:56 PMquote:
Just heard, 33 confirmed dead now
And an unknown number on the bus.
Terrible.
colibriman - 7/7/05 at 04:26 PMThis is just horrific but unfortunately something had to happen in the UK sooner or later..
I hope everyone we know is ok, and feel terrible for anyone who is in the middle of this situation
David Jenkins - 7/7/05 at 04:27 PMJust got home on the first train out of Liverpool Street - quite amazed at the behaviour of the people waiting. No-one complaining, doing what they're asked by the police & security guards, just waiting patiently. The authorities did very well, all things considered.
Glad to be home, though. 85 miles is a long way to walk!
David
Fozzie - 7/7/05 at 04:33 PMGreat to hear David!
ATB Fozzie
The Shootist - 7/7/05 at 04:38 PMI would like to offer my sincerest sympathy and prayers for both the victims and those who love them.
This was not an attack against Britain, and 9/11 was not an attack against America. This was an attack against the western world and our way of life.
These cowardly deeds will not cease until the world joins together, as one, to put a stop to it.
Peteff - 7/7/05 at 04:45 PMGood to hear everyone's alright and things are getting sorted. Sorry to hear of the casualties and fatalities and hope this is the end of it for a long time.
[Edited on 7/7/05 by Peteff]
derf - 7/7/05 at 05:13 PMI just heard from my father that my cousin who just moved to london to work was on one of the trains. He is now in critical but stable condition, and was evacuated to a hospital. He was in emergency surgery at 11:00 am London time, and was finished by 4:00 pm.
I have to say during the 9/11 attack on NYC, everyone in the area was super good about following instructions, and noone complained about the long times to get out the city (took me 3 days). People were cooking food for the people stranded, hotel rooms were hard to find, and random people would bring blankets out to people sleeping on the streets (me). It really showed that people are decent and caring, it showed the best of humanity. Through all the bad stuff, pain and tragedy, the only good thing is that people were good to each other, and they showed that through tragedy people can come together.
Best of luck, be safe, and our prayers are with you....
theconrodkid - 7/7/05 at 05:40 PMdude,sorry to hear about your cousin,if you need any phone calls to be made locally etc you can reley on one of us,just ask.
David Jenkins - 7/7/05 at 05:41 PMWhat I found was that people felt that the authorities at the station were doing something and that a plan of action was unfolding, even if Joe Public didn't understand what it was.
I am sure that if the authorities hadn't shown a sense of purpose the reaction of the public would have been quite different.
Derf - I hope your cousin recovers ASAP.
rgds,
David
derf - 7/7/05 at 05:54 PMThanks for the offer, my aunt is at newark airport trying to get a flight over, his wife is also keeping us informed.
Like I said the worst tradjedies bring out the best in people.
Fozzie - 7/7/05 at 06:24 PMSo sorry Derf!
As John said....anything at all we can do....give us a shout!
Fozzie
ned - 7/7/05 at 06:31 PMgot home ok - after i got out of the office! i walked out into an empty street in the middle of the cordoned off area, had to wait for the police bods to spot me to direct me out as there was a suspicious package opposite that they were gonna blow up apparantly. wondered round the corner and saw the remains of the bus before walking back to waterloo and getting a train which was all running remarkably well.
only down side is i may have hit a speed trap on the way back in the gf's car
Ned.
DorsetStrider - 7/7/05 at 07:01 PMIt's standard operating proceedure when something like this happens to shut down the mobile phone networks as the bombs may be remote detonated using a mobile.
Also it gives priority to emergency services.
donut - 7/7/05 at 08:00 PMMy Mrs got home an hour early cos she got a lift so i'm well happy.
Glad you made it back ok Ned. Must have been very spooky out there in a quiet london street.
the JoKeR - 7/7/05 at 11:00 PMAn observation from across the sea: I'm am amazed at how calm everybody seems over this. The level of reserve shown is remarkable.
It reminds me of the way in which Londoners handled the Blitz of WWII, and the quote from Churchill: 'We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender ...'
This probably doesn't need the American to English translation, but as a nation, you guys have brass balls. (just in case, that's a good thing)
Rorty - 8/7/05 at 05:46 AMI am truly horrified at what has transpired in London. The hurt will extend far further than those who bled, so my heart goes out, not only to the victims, but to all their families and friends too.
I think perhaps the one saving grace is the staunch British resolve - long may it live.
DaveFJ - 8/7/05 at 09:36 AMAnd so it start's......
quote:
<taken from the BBC news website>
ID cards 'wouldn't stop attacks'
(says)Charles Clarke
Clarke doubts any measures would have stopped the attacks
Identity cards would not have stopped the London bombings which claimed the lives of 37 people and injured many more, Charles Clarke has said.
But on balance, the home secretary says, he believes ID cards would help rather than hinder the ability to deal with particular terrorist threats.
He also suggested that in future civil liberties may have to be curtailed.
so what he is saying is that the cards don't won't work but he belives in them anyway and that we are soon to be in a police state....
surely this is what the terrorists want, to distrupt our lives
[Edited on 8/7/05 by DaveFJ]
Fozzie - 8/7/05 at 10:31 AMYup, I agree....so the terrorists get their way after all.....the 'free' west (UK anyway) will be no more.
It is a shame that the 'government' does not possess the resolve and backbone of the nation as a whole.
I cannot think how ID cards would have prevented yesterdays atrocities.
As for civil liberties, I think they are/have been taken away from us gradually for quite a while now
Fozzie
James - 8/7/05 at 10:34 AMquote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
And so it start's......
quote:
<taken from the BBC news website>
ID cards 'wouldn't stop attacks'
(says)Charles Clarke
Clarke doubts any measures would have stopped the attacks
Identity cards would not have stopped the London bombings which claimed the lives of 37 people and injured many more, Charles Clarke has said.
But on balance, the home secretary says, he believes ID cards would help rather than hinder the ability to deal with particular terrorist threats.
He also suggested that in future civil liberties may have to be curtailed.
so what he is saying is that the cards don't won't work but he belives in them anyway and that we are soon to be in a police state....
surely this is what the terrorists want, to distrupt our lives
[Edited on 8/7/05 by DaveFJ]
It's exactly what they want- generally making our lives more miserable.
If you look at Charlie Clarke's history he's spent all his political career fighting civil liberty encroaching measures- right up until the moment of getting power.
James