Board logo

Wasted day on tin top
Guinness - 29/10/05 at 04:35 PM

Arrrrgggggghhhhhh!

I've just spent all day trying to replace the brakes on my wifes Daewoo Matiz.

One trip to the factors to pick up the pads, fitting kit and the discs. One hour getting the car in the yard, up in the air, wheels off and then things started going wrong.

Who builds a car where to replace the front discs you have to take the complete front hub off, take out the bearings and seperate the hubs completely. Fxxking Daewoo that's who!!!

So I take off both calipers and replace the pads. Easy.

Then back to the factors to pick up a 14mm socket and a 30mm socket to get the hubs off.

Strip both hubs off and try to get the bearings out. No joy so I download a manual from the internet (Haynes don't do one for the Daewoo). Find I need "special tools" to remove and replace the bearings and once out need replacements fitting.

Trip to Daewoo main dealer to find that their parts dept are shut on Saturday afternoons and won't be open until Monday.

First thing in the morning it's all going back together and my local garage are getting a call on Monday morning!

Anyway, thanks for reading that, I feel much better now

Mike


ned - 29/10/05 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
Arrrrgggggghhhhhh!

Who builds a car where to replace the front discs you have to take the complete front hub off, take out the bearings and seperate the hubs completely. Fxxking Daewoo that's who!!!

Mike

Isn't the cortina upright a bit like that?!!

Ned.

[Edited on 29/10/05 by ned]


rusty nuts - 29/10/05 at 06:45 PM

Bit like some of the old Maxda 626s and Metros?


britishtrident - 29/10/05 at 07:25 PM

Removing the hubs to change a disc is normal -- except on cars with top hat discs.


Try changing the discs on a Montego --- nearly always an angle grinder job.


RoadkillUK - 30/10/05 at 01:06 PM

Hehe, I had a bad experience the week before last.

Checked the rear brakes on my Xantia to find that the discs were rusty, not been used in a while, explains the nose diving at lights

Anyway, Wednesday I try to remove the calipers, easy job really, 1/2 a turn on the bolts and they snapped, all 4 of them (both sides). Calipers off and only one of the bolts is showing enough thread to use the weld off technique.

I tried to weld nuts on the others but couldn't get a good enough weld in there, spent most of the day trying to drill out the rest with little luck (the bolts are 10.9, not 8.8).

Wednesday still, I phone GSF and order 2 rear calipers for my Xantia, then I phone up the Citroen Dealer to get 4 bolts (I couldn't find them anywhere else).

Thursday, get up in the am and go to collect my parts. I get to GSF who hand me 2 FRONT Xantia calipers, a short chat later and he says they'll get the right ones in tomorrow. Next stop is Citroen dealers, One bolt sir. I ordered 4 but strangely enough, they ordered 1.

Next it's to BBN Fastnet to get a drill and a tap to clean out the old thread. I took the new bolt I got from the Citroen dealer and asked for a tap and drill for that bolt, which he said was an M8. I took them home and drilled out 2 holes and tapped them, tried the bolt in and the bolt was too big.

Took the bolt back to BBN Fastnet to get a second opinion and the bloke says it's an M9. Sells me an M9 tap and a 9mm drill bit. Now I didn't check so I suppose it's my fault ... if you use a 9mm drill bit and an M9 tap, the tap will fall through the hole (which it did). For future reference an M9 tap needs a 7.8mm drill bit.

Took the tap and drill back to BBN Fastnet who swapped them for a V-Coil kit.

I slept in 'til 3pm Friday but managed to collect the CORRECT parts from GSF and the CORRECT number of bolts from Citroen (who phoned Fri am to say they had only got one bolt again but would get the others by lunchtime).

On to Saturday, as if by magic, the drill bit in the V-Coil kit was sharp and fast, the coils slipped in with the tool nicely, followed by 2 calipers and the bolts. Only took an hour to fit the lot.

So, GSF ordered the wrong parts, Citroen ordered the wrong number of bolts Twice, BBN Fastnet sold me the wrong size tap, drill Twice.

And the bloke on Ebay where I got my discs and pads was cheap and delivered the correct parts first time the very next day.

I really needed that, thank's for reading, I feel much better.

I did type all this last week but I clicked on something and it dissapeared and I wasn't in the mood to retype it.


RoadkillUK - 30/10/05 at 01:13 PM

Just some photo's, I'm passing time.








NS Dev - 30/10/05 at 01:38 PM

Feel sorry for you folks.

BUT, if you will buy french crap cars!!

Sorry, but it's true! Even though they are temptingly cheap, they're not worth the hassle, learnt the hard way mending mate's ones!!


zzrpowerd-locost - 30/10/05 at 03:37 PM

the worst thing i ever found on citroens was the front brakes on the ax gt! The 85bhp 1.4gt had the same brakes as th 40odd bhp 1.0l shopping trolley! Any really hard use = warped discs. Once changed a set of disc after 300miles

Plus the calipers used to seize religously every 3k miles also = warped dics

Found out this was cos the ali caliper used to corrode around the plastic slider bush, squeezing it making it tight!

solution grooved and drilled discs, fast road/rally pads. Oh and new slider bushes every 2k miles! first set of fast road pads lasted 5k miles! Changed to mintex, 15k miles

All in a days work for a boy racer!


Guinness - 30/10/05 at 03:55 PM

All is not lost, Jambojeef has come up trumps, with a friend who's Matiz has just knackered the engine. So I'm off to recover that one, a bit of switching around should see me one standard and working Matiz and one shell without an engine.

Busa powered midi here I come.

Mike


JoelP - 30/10/05 at 07:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zzrpowerd-locost
the worst thing i ever found on citroens was the front brakes on the ax gt! The 85bhp 1.4gt had the same brakes as th 40odd bhp 1.0l shopping trolley! Any really hard use = warped discs. Once changed a set of disc after 300miles

Plus the calipers used to seize religously every 3k miles also = warped dics

Found out this was cos the ali caliper used to corrode around the plastic slider bush, squeezing it making it tight!

solution grooved and drilled discs, fast road/rally pads. Oh and new slider bushes every 2k miles! first set of fast road pads lasted 5k miles! Changed to mintex, 15k miles

All in a days work for a boy racer!



shame i didnt read that a few months ago, ive just had the same polava... Changed a good pair of discs cos they were warped, and warped the new ones within a few days. Plus i have squeeky calipers - you can hear something straining as you squeeze the brakes more and less. Would this be a siezed piston?

I was thinking just this morning of going the mintex and new disc route, but couldnt bear the thought of chucking two pairs of barely worn discs away.

Any recommendation over disc? And whats the crack with unsiezing the caliper? Cheers!

ps, sorry for the thread hijack!

[Edited on 30/10/05 by JoelP]