New Insurance fines
And For actually driving and them logging your movements on the roads thay have this:
Vehicle Movement Database
I didnt Vote for Big Brother Tony...
[Edited on 18/11/2005 by wilkingj]
Our Govt's Latest "Auto Fine / Tax / Fleece the Motorist" game
New Insurance fines
And For actually driving and them logging your movements on the roads thay have this:
Vehicle Movement Database
I didnt Vote for Big Brother Tony...
[Edited on 18/11/2005 by wilkingj]
In my opion anyone who drives without insurance should be fined what I can't agree with is this "On top of these powers we are creating a
new offence of keeping a vehicle without insurance. This will be enforced through a new database of insurance details which means that uninsured
drivers don't even need to be on the road to be caught".
Why do I need to insure a car thats not roadworthy and parked on my property??
Dave
Yes... But add this to it.
New Vehicle movement Database
You are all TOO Trusting...
Ref the new no insurance rules - i hope that you dont need insurance etc if the vehicle is declared Sorn. It sounds like they are linking the road tax
and insurance requirement together. Personally i welcome any moves to make no insurance a punishable offence and for people to get easily caught. I
have been the victim of such an uninsured driver and it is not pleasant.
What iam struggling to understand is how they can catch the people that havent registered the vehicle and perhaps dont have a licence etc. Sure the
cameras will be able to detect the vehicle but not the drivers details. This means us law abiding citizens are the easy target again. A bit unfair but
that is life.
Surely these beuroprats can't seriously be suggesting that I have got to insure a vehicle that is not kept or used on a public road!!!
How the hell can they do that?
They don't say you MUST insure anything else so why a car?
IT'S TIME FOR THIS GOVERNMENT TO GO.
I wholeheartedly agree that drivers without insurance should have their gonads cut off with a blunt knife and have them sewn into their mouths, but
leave the rest of us law abiding citizens alone.
If we have to have compulsory insurance regardless of on/off road then insurance companies should have very specific guidelines on how they calculate the insurance costs and not just stick it into the random number generator.
quote:
Originally posted by need4speed . . . . . . . . Why do I need to insure a car thats not roadworthy and parked on my property??
Dave
OKay, I'll stir things up a bit then....
I'm all for the insurance thing. My family have lost out after being involved in a minor accident with an uninsured driver, so anything to
combat that is good in my eyes. Obvioulsy it's a bit stupid to have to insure a car that is declared Sorn, and I'm sure that will not be
the case (ie. a sorn declaration = no need for insurance).
The national vehicle movement database thing? So what? I couldn't care less if Mr Blair wanted to know that I drive to work and back every day,
and down to the RC flying field every weekend. So what if he wants to know that I've nipped out to the supermarket 10 miles down the road? It
really doesn't bother me! Okay, the money to find it has to come from somewhere, but I would rather it go on a scheme like this than funding the
spongers that are all to common in this country (which I do object to btw!)
Anyway, I've got far more important things to worry about at the moment, like finding somewhere who can profile and bend a couple of brackets for
my kit car 
Cheers!
Andy
All these systems to track vehicles and calculate speed etc use ANPR. Automatic number plate recognition. And they always read the front number
plate.......
3 ways to avoid being tracked / caught speeding
1: buy a motorbike (no front plate)
2: take off you number plate, snap it and leave it in the boot.
3: obscure your front plate!!!
I obviously do not condone such behaivour except for 1: buy a bike:
Own a Land Rover... and use it in the Mud... frequently... ie keep it dirty..
Only wash mine once a year.. to give the boy some pocket money to go on holiday with.
The trouble with vehicle tracking is that your insurance company will undoubtedly be informed of any irregularities such as using your car for the odd
job instead of social and domestic purposes, therefore rendering your overpriced insurance policy void. This is just the tip of the iceberg. With this
and the government's plan to have your house valued by some nosey sod poking around your personal space supposedly for council tax purposes, it
won't be long before you won't be able to go to the bog without being monitored to see how much you're damaging the environment by
using too much toilet paper!
As for car insurance for cars that are not even on the road, we should write to our MPs. This is serious!
Cheers
Jon
[Edited on 18/11/05 by jonbeedle]
quote:
Originally posted by bigandy
OKay, I'll stir things up a bit then....
I'm all for the insurance thing. My family have lost out after being involved in a minor accident with an uninsured driver, so anything to combat that is good in my eyes. Obvioulsy it's a bit stupid to have to insure a car that is declared Sorn, and I'm sure that will not be the case (ie. a sorn declaration = no need for insurance).
The national vehicle movement database thing? So what? I couldn't care less if Mr Blair wanted to know that I drive to work and back every day, and down to the RC flying field every weekend. So what if he wants to know that I've nipped out to the supermarket 10 miles down the road? It really doesn't bother me! Okay, the money to find it has to come from somewhere, but I would rather it go on a scheme like this than funding the spongers that are all to common in this country (which I do object to btw!)
Anyway, I've got far more important things to worry about at the moment, like finding somewhere who can profile and bend a couple of brackets for my kit car
Cheers!
Andy
. They are used for tracking as well, along with average speed calculations. There are many resto projects taken off the road before sorn was introduced and you cannot declare sorn on these. If the new rules only exempt sorn
cars ............
Another case of the government not knowing the details of existing legislation and adding bad new law on top of bad old law.
I wonder how many ministers own anything other than mainstream tin tops or have been into a post office to tax a car or an MOT station to get a car
tested?
I can see cloned plates becoming very popular! 
If numberplates are all their relying to identify a car....