hi guys,

im quite bored today and i started thinking what relatively small old car would make a suitable donor car for an off road buggy of my own design for a possible DT project next year for my a level

this year im making a big angular steel tv table with pyramids of sheet metal

but i think soem sort of off road buggy would be great fun

ive got a 200cc wasp rally kart no suspension ride on lawnmower engine thing which is fun but a bit small and not really big enough with me being 6"3 and 20 stone but my little brother will enjoy it

and i want something bigger faster and more fun

im not worried about it being road legal because it wont be used on road itll be shipped off over to ireland for use on bog tracks and fields

i thought maybe a mini with a space frame rollcage but its a bit boring any ideas prefferably simple and not too expensive

Take a look at the NCF web site, might give you some ideas.

Land/Range rover chassis with a spaceframe over it is a well tried option and no SVA so you could even get it roadworthy with minimum effort (plenty of other suppliers if you google)

No reason why you couldn't take the mini engine at the back approach with any modern FWD car (if ~200 Bhp/tonne is too boring )

http://www.ncfblitz.freeserve.co.uk/

ive seen the ncf blitz before and its almost the kinda thing its a bit expensive tho to buy and they dont sell just plans

id bee looking to do a similar thing but maybe keep it 4 seater for added laughs

How about QT then (land rover based flatpack spaceframe) probably the best compromise for cost given the tube bender+notcher you will need to make or buy to make your own.

http://www.qtservices.co.uk/space.htm

Alternatively what about the plans from Rorty?

http://www.rorty-design.com/

Take a look at www.edge.au.com or google theedge buggies, they have plans for sale.

Excellent use for a 600cc bike engine

i wont have the funds for a bike engine hence why i was thinking mini or similar or basically an engine i can get cheaply that wont fire me to anywhere near 100 because that would be damn scary lol i was thinkign more like 70 - 80 max lol


i have one of these




and want to make something more like the ncf blitz well not something that looks like itbut a similar idea

i quite like the mdv rally racer looks but its waayyy to complex ... for my needs

www.mdvse.com


something with a similar look based around some cheap old car would be excellent

maybe vw bettle or mini or something similar

[Edited on 6/12/05 by Messenjah]

also what you said iank abotu compromise on cost considering equipment ill have to buy thats not an issue i have access to tube benders angle grinders welding equipment plenty of tube and box section and lots of other stuff at school

Have a look at http://www.funbuggies.co.uk
Is this the sort of thing you had in mind? (uses a mini/metro donor)

a similar thing but not as damn ugly lol

Build an autograss car!!!!!!!!!!!

dead simple, 4000 autograss licence holders in the Uk will give you free advice and plans etc!! (not that many use them!)

My mate Tim Back built this car for considerably less than £500 this year. It uses a Peugeot MI16 engine, 160 hp and weighs bugger all, all in all good cheap fun and pretty quick!!



[Edited on 6/12/05 by NS Dev]

my car in action again...............could build an 8 valve version, with only 130hp instead of 200hp, for less than £300.

Tim sold his old vauxhall 8 valve car for £400 I think.

www.hotbuggy.com

http://pages.123-reg.co.uk/billybob2-891555/www.billybobsbuggyshop.co.uk/index.html

i thinik there's one of them down the bottom of my road. looks home builts and is always dirty, it has a number on the side so guessing it might be an autograss car in some sort of beetle based class?!

Ned.

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Originally posted by NS Dev
my car in action again...............could build an 8 valve version, with only 130hp instead of 200hp, for less than £300.

Tim sold his old vauxhall 8 valve car for £400 I think.

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Heh heh!

If anybody was serious about starting up autograss racing, I would be pleased to quote for a chassis etc.

To build one as cheap as mentioned you need to do it all yourself, as per Ron's magic book!

A chassis from me would certainly be "competitive" in price with anything else available though! (as in cheaper!)

I'll keep doing the lottery then Expect a call if i ever win !!

Jason

Depending on what was involved, I think you would realistically be looking at around £350 to £450 for a chassis.

It would depend on what mounts were needed etc, whether you were welding engine mounts on or whether you provided an engine to work around etc.

that price would be about right though.