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Hellfire - 9/1/06 at 10:52 PM

Hi guys - wonder if any of you know whether a UK residential telephone line will support HPNA. I understand it is available in the States but unsure about over here... I'm asking because I have a telephone socket in every room and I've tried Wireless and Bluetooth networks with constant drop out's of reception due to the density of the walls and size of my house. (It's over 100 years old).

What other options are available to me (power line network only runs on 110V) rather than go solid state and have a wire trailing around.


DanP - 9/1/06 at 11:04 PM

Unsure about phoneline networking but I'm sure powerline networks work in the UK - try searching for 'homeplug'

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48539&criteria=phoneline%20networking&doy=9m1


DanP - 9/1/06 at 11:05 PM

or... I see no real reason why HPNA shouldn't work down a residential line - if you can use it for 8 meg broadband then i see no reason why it wouldn't work - might be worth checking whether or not having a HPNA affects how many telephones you can have on the same line as normally you can only have ~4 (dpending on the REN number of the phone)

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?DLI-638170

HTH!



[Edited on 9/1/06 by DanP]


Hellfire - 9/1/06 at 11:34 PM

Been reading up a little and rested on the Power Line System due to it's versatility and portability.

Ok - All I want to connect are Laptop and PC to a PC based ADSL connection. I have seen examples where sytems are linked via a router to the 'net but do I need one for two Computers as I never need one for my other networks.

Have I got it wrong that I only need Laptop to Powerline then Powerline to PC with Modem and splitter. Am I sorted then?

S


pdw709 - 10/1/06 at 08:22 AM

Are you absolutely sure that wireless is not an option? Have you tried different routers? Some are definitely better than others.

Just for the record, I live in a 100+ year old house with thick granite walls, and have no drop-out problems. If you still have difficulties, you could always invest in a few wireless booster stations.

Phil


DaveFJ - 10/1/06 at 09:13 AM

We recently had to put in a wireless network in our CEOs house, sorry mansion!

we needed several quite serious boosters to get the signal to caver the entire house but we got it working. definately not locost though.....


Ian Pearson - 10/1/06 at 10:05 AM

The walls in my house are 3 ft thick in places. Wireless connectivity is a pain unless I have the router aerial in the middle of the stairs! I bought a pair of Homeplugs, and they work like a dream.


MikeRJ - 10/1/06 at 12:24 PM

http://www.homeplugs.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_HomePlugs.html are one of the cheapest sources, though not by a huge amount.


Gav - 10/1/06 at 12:32 PM

or...

How about CAT5'ing your entire house

my setup is like this:

Thompson router -> cat5 -> hub upstairs -> server & workstation
Thompson router -> wireless -> laptop

With the actual router in the same room as my laptop, although i can take the laptop out to the garage about 15 meters from the house.
Although my house is your typical cardboard barret box.

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[Edited on 10/1/06 by Gav]


mookaloid - 10/1/06 at 04:05 PM

Those homeplug thingies look good.

Will they work from house to house or just in one house?

Just a thought......


Hellfire - 10/1/06 at 04:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
Those homeplug thingies look good.

Will they work from house to house or just in one house?

Just a thought......


That's my thoughts - they will work on any power cable system. The wireless route I've spent more than I want to repeat - the only way I feel now is to hardwire - I basically cant be arsed - at least with hardwire it's not as open to wireless hijacking. You have to be plugged in to get a connection...


Ian Pearson - 10/1/06 at 08:51 PM

There is a limit to the range of a homeplug. I've chucked the destructions, so don't know the specifics. Just tried it in the neighbours house, and it doesn't work.


quattromike - 10/1/06 at 10:41 PM

So does it work by fireing to broadband connection up the powerlines which can be taken out at any socket in the building? or is it still a wireles connection but with more power from the mains?


Ian Pearson - 10/1/06 at 10:51 PM

The signal is transmitted through the mains circuit. Works well.

Link: HOMEPLUG


MikeRJ - 11/1/06 at 12:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
Those homeplug thingies look good.

Will they work from house to house or just in one house?

Just a thought......


Possibly if they are on the same phase. Adjacent houses are often on different phases however and it definately work work under those circumstances.


andyharding - 11/1/06 at 01:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Gav
or...

How about CAT5'ing your entire house




If i was going to the trouble of running cabling all over my house I'd run fiber. Mmmm 10Gbps....