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David Jenkins - 2/2/06 at 09:49 AM

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It's a Caterham that hit a deer - a real brown-trouser job, I reckon. What scares me is that his screen took the worst of it, while keping him safe - there's loads of deer around where I live, and I have no screen...

Still, it's good that he was undamaged personally, and the car's almost re-built, apparently.

David

[Edited on 2/2/06 by David Jenkins]


donut - 2/2/06 at 10:04 AM

Looks like an easy repair but your right about the brown trouser moment!!

I'ts amazing what damage animals can do!


ditchlewis - 2/2/06 at 10:11 AM

I think that this may be all the reason i need to fit the screen i bought after i have SVA'd the Mk.

To be honest i'm impressed as to how little damage has been done

ditch


David Jenkins - 2/2/06 at 10:28 AM

It's not a nice thought - but imagine a collision with a pedestrian, without a screen...

DJ


muzchap - 2/2/06 at 10:38 AM

Well Caterhams are deer!

But surely with a crash helmet you're pretty safe? or no worse off than a motorcyclist?

I'm going to adjust my seating position so that I can duck behind the scuttle... After seeing that pic..

M


stevebubs - 2/2/06 at 10:43 AM

quote:
Originally posted by muzchap

But surely with a crash helmet you're pretty safe? or no worse off than a motorcyclist?




Dead, you mean?


NS Dev - 2/2/06 at 10:43 AM

Eekk!

I don't think you'd have much time to duck!!!


David Jenkins - 2/2/06 at 10:45 AM

At least a bike rider can be knocked backwards off the bike - a Locost driver is going to be trapped between a rock and a hard place, a.k.a. between the incoming object and the rear bulkhead...

Cheery thought for the morning!

David


NS Dev - 2/2/06 at 10:53 AM

best to just not think about it! Worry about that one when it happens!


Alan_Thomas - 2/2/06 at 10:56 AM

quote:

I'm going to adjust my seating position so that I can duck behind the scuttle... After seeing that pic..

M


I you are using a four point harness ducking behind the scuttle is not an option.

Judging by the pictures it was a hit and run by the deer. My mate had a similiar experience in his car, the bonnet was dented in with a perfect set of hoof prints. The deer try to make a last second avoiding action by leaping as high as they can hence no damage to the nosecone bonnet etc.

- Alan


iank - 2/2/06 at 11:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
best to just not think about it! Worry about that one when it happens!


Was going to suggest a full cage, but the small deer we get in the UK would likely fit between the uprights

I've seen the damage an elk can do to a car, and in Aus they have the kangeroo's which are huge when fully grown. So I think we have it relatively lucky.

But even pheasants can kill if they hit you in the face at 50mph!


David Jenkins - 2/2/06 at 11:12 AM

A couple of my neighbours have had full-on collisions with roe deer at approx 60mph over the past 10 years or so (roughly on the same bit of road!). The drivers were unhurt, but their cars were write-offs. Deer weren't too good either...

But it's being so cheerful as keeps us going!



[Edited on 2/2/06 by David Jenkins]


MikeRJ - 2/2/06 at 11:36 AM

Didn't realise the "quality" end of the market had such dubious engineering; both ends of trailing arm have the fixing bolt in single shear.

Locost design is better in at least one area then


amalyos - 2/2/06 at 11:52 AM

Lets face it, if you were worried about safety you wouldn't be driving a seven. Buy a Volvo
I've got both, so I'll just have to make sure I'm driving the Volvo when I hit the Deer.
Always wondered what the ESP button was!!


Messenjah - 2/2/06 at 02:34 PM

remember to bake as soon as you see it and up fairly close to it to slow you down but floor it at the last second to lift the front of the car up to minimise risk of it coming over the bonet and roling throught the screen


iank - 2/2/06 at 03:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Messenjah
remember to bake as soon as you see it and up fairly close to it to slow you down but floor it at the last second to lift the front of the car up to minimise risk of it coming over the bonet and roling throught the screen


Would that work with one of these?
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/hacmoose.htm


steve m - 2/2/06 at 06:34 PM

Ahh

The moose is having a rest

will he be allright later ??


TPG - 2/2/06 at 07:20 PM

..I collected a phesant on the way home.Me and the passenger tried to duck(A duck would of been better!) but 4 points don't really let you do this.The phesant just managed to clear our heads tipped forwards and left part of its undercarrige on the roll bar.Proper brown trouser moment bearing in mind a Fawn had "fallen" on the bonnet of the tintop a week before in the same area.


steve_gus - 2/2/06 at 07:34 PM

a locost is pretty fundamentally unsafe - i think you accept a degree of risk when you dirve one.

i had an open top car on hire in florida last year - being in between two trucks on a 3 lane highway wasnt all i expected open top motoring to be - i imagined what it would be like with your ass 4 ins from the ground too.

A workmate from a previous job was killed this week on a bike.

he was overtaking two cars, thought better of it as a car came the other way, and tried to get in the gap between the first and second car. Something, dunno what, happend to unseat him. He fell into the path of the oncoming car and was run over by it.

It was a fiesta. A locost perhaps would have had two people involved.

A locost screen doesnt look that strong. Imagine a 80 kilo person or deer hitting it at speed - people hitting normal cars put dents in the roof above the screen. In a locost I think it would be a tom pryce (F1 driver who hit a marshal) scenario

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Pryce

atb

steve

[Edited on 2/2/06 by steve_gus]


ReMan - 2/2/06 at 08:09 PM

Would that work with one of these?
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/hacmoose.htm




Blimey you should see some of these!
The spider bitten hand makes me cringe more than the bigger things!


David Jenkins - 2/2/06 at 09:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
a locost is pretty fundamentally unsafe - i think you accept a degree of risk when you dirve one.



Agreed... and I'm driving the Locost 'cos my wife thinks it's safer than the bikes I used to ride...

Mind you - it IS a lot safer than a bike - just not as safe as a modern tin-top. On the other hand, I pay a lot more attention to what I'm doing in the open car, and more aware of speed, so in that respect I'm probably safer. But I probably don't floor the accelerator pedal every 2 minutes in my tin-top...

Swings and roundabouts...

David