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Anyone running Azureus on a router?
RazMan - 20/8/06 at 09:32 PM

I've got a Netgear router and I download quite a bit of 'stuff' on Azureus - even more so since I had a disc crash and lost 60Gb of music this weekend

The trouble is I am getting very, very slow downloads regardless of the number of seeds for the torrents. I know that there are a few tricks to speed things up but I am in the dark as to how this is done - port forwarding, firewall rules etc.

Can anyone help this old geezer get his music collection back?

greggors84 - 20/8/06 at 09:38 PM

If you have a router you will need to open the right ports to allow the traffic in. Do a search on the internet as it is different for every program.

Im guessing Azureus is for torrents? If you switch to BitLord i can tell you the ports to open as its what im running.

You may need to open the ports on the firewall too, but its a case of see what works, i have found on some computers i dont need to do it on windows firewall.

MikeRJ - 20/8/06 at 09:42 PM

This:
http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/#ports

and this:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/6160/Introduction+to+Port+Forwarding#Na

should help you set up your port forwarding.

Note that even with ports forwarded, Bit Torrents can still be very slow, depending on the number of seeds etc.

[Edited on 20/8/06 by MikeRJ]

Sacal - 20/8/06 at 09:54 PM

Some ISP's are also capping bandwith for P2P applications during peak hours these days for residential DSL connections, check your isp's terms on thier website to see if this is the case also.....if thats the case, line up your downloads during the day/evening then set to run during the night, you could upgrade to a business product like me and sidestep this but you will pay a hefty price premium if thats all you are using it for!

OX - 20/8/06 at 09:58 PM

i have a netgear router and struggled with azureus.
a m8 told me about bit lord and that worked a treat but i use U torrent now.both didnt need any ports opening

Hellfire - 20/8/06 at 10:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by OX
i have a netgear router and struggled with azureus.
a m8 told me about bit lord and that worked a treat but i use U torrent now.both didnt need any ports opening


Ditto

RazMan - 20/8/06 at 10:05 PM

I've been using Azureus for a few years now and it seems very complicated regarding setup. Most of my downloads are done during the night as my pooter is on 24/7 - downloads are practically zero during the day and mysteriously pick up during the night.

Is Bitlord easier to set up? I also notice that the download site for Bitlord is asking for payment Is it worth signing up?

the_fbi - 20/8/06 at 10:30 PM

Also worth getting this http://www.lvllord.de/download.php?url=en/EvID4226Patch223d-en.zip which patches the tcpip.sys so that it can handle more half open connections.

In SP2 M$ made some changes which create issues for P2P clients.

Read the FAQ for more info.

http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=4226patch/faq

It will make a large difference. Depending on your network card's drivers, going over 50 may give you lockups every so often. But even at 50 you'll see a massive increase in speed.



EDIT: If you don't think you're being affected by this then try this (from the FAQ).

How can I find out, if I'm affected?
Just have a look at Start/Maintenance/Control Panel/Administration Management/Eventviewer/System if there are entries with the event id 4226. If yes, minimum one time the limit has been reached.

[Edited on 20/8/06 by the_fbi]

RazMan - 20/8/06 at 10:32 PM

I've just had a look at U Torrent and it looks really easy (and free too) so I downloaded it and transferred all of my torrents to it.

I think Azureus will be given the big E

Thanks for the tips guys

G.Man - 21/8/06 at 04:02 AM

just set your pc to default dmz in the router and you turn on upnp and thats all you need to do with Azureus

Most of the slow issues are probably due to being connected to too many or too few peers, and maybe too much bandwidth being used for upload...

limit you upload speed to at most, half you max bandwidth, say 20k/s and you will find a big increase in download speed..

also limit the number of peers you connect to, as each one of them sends a request to your pc for info which your pc has to respond to, that limits up and download speed...

Aboardman - 21/8/06 at 06:54 AM

here are my setting for azureus
go to preferrences>network and:
set protocol encyyption to "enabled"
global maximum upload rate to 10kb/s
global maximum download rate to 0
set your port to 52525 , untick "randomise ports"
go to "torrents" set your global number of connections to 600
max number of peers per torrent to 100
number of upload slots to 6

and made a massive differance in download speeds

the_fbi - 21/8/06 at 07:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by G.Man
just set your pc to default dmz in the router

I'd say definately don't do that, unless you want even greater problems.

If you just forward the right port(s)/services (whatever your router calls it) to your internal IP then everything will work fine. Only one port forward is required.

Half open connections (as I posted above) is generally the reason for slow speeds.

andyharding - 21/8/06 at 08:26 AM

Lot's of ISPs have different speed lanes depending on the profile of the user. Normal users get put into a speed lane that doesn't restrict their usage. Heavy users get moved into a highly contended speed lane and their access is slowed down. This all happens on the fly and could be set off by you suddenly downloading a lot.

Of course no ISP will admit they do this...

BKLOCO - 21/8/06 at 08:45 AM

Mike,
I use micro torrent (U Torrent) and it's a doddle to set up.
Just be carefull when setting the max up speed. If you set it too close to your max up bandwidth then your download speed will suffer.
Something to do with not being able to send packet requests because all of the bandwidth is being used.
I'm sure an anorack will be along shortly to explain this more fully

RazMan - 21/8/06 at 08:52 AM

I left it running last night and downloaded around 1Gb of music so it looks promising. As you say, setup was a doddle and I just set the upload speed to 186Kb/s which was the default for a 2Mb connection.

andyharding - 21/8/06 at 08:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO
Mike,
I use micro torrent (U Torrent) and it's a doddle to set up.
Just be carefull when setting the max up speed. If you set it too close to your max up bandwidth then your download speed will suffer.
Something to do with not being able to send packet requests because all of the bandwidth is being used.
I'm sure an anorack will be along shortly to explain this more fully


If the outbound tcp queue is full of data packets then ACK responses to your download tcp streams will also be queued and slowed down. Unless you have a cleaver router (FireBrick) like me which sends ACK packets to the top of the queue giving me max download and upload concurrently

RazMan - 21/8/06 at 08:54 AM

I left it running last night and downloaded around 1Gb of music so it looks promising. As you say, setup was a doddle and I just set the upload speed to 186Kb/s which was the default for a 2Mb connection.

I also forwarded the one port that uTorrent uses and got a 'green light' so everything looks hunky dory so far

RazMan - 26/8/06 at 10:23 AM

Have now downloaded about 10Gb of music and my collection is returning again.

Is it me or does uTorrent slow internet access down considerably when its running? I usually run it a night which is when I get the best download speeds but if I try to surf, it takes forever to refresh pages etc.

the_fbi - 26/8/06 at 10:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
Is it me or does uTorrent slow internet access down considerably when its running?

As per my posts above, have you checked your event logs for Event ID 4226?

Order the column for event ID and take a look. I think you'll find some.

RazMan - 26/8/06 at 09:40 PM

Nope, not one - strange