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is britain slowing down?
JoelP - 28/6/07 at 09:17 PM

work seems to be drying up at the min, a fair few people in several trades up and down the country have noticed similar things. Have you noticed a change? Still busy? Do you think interest rates are to blame or something else?

Discuss


scottc - 28/6/07 at 09:21 PM

Interest rates are about 60% higher than they were 2 years ago (or thereabouts) makes a big difference!


davrus - 28/6/07 at 09:23 PM

What trade are you in.

I am in the motor trade and we are flat out. Busyer than ever.


Mark Allanson - 28/6/07 at 09:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by davrus
What trade are you in.

I am in the motor trade and we are flat out. Busyer than ever.


I concurr on that one, I have 6 weeks work stacked up ready to do, customers getting a bit impatient, but capacity is well under demand


JoelP - 28/6/07 at 09:29 PM

kitchen fitting.

(can i say does anyone want one without getting banned?!)


skydivepaul - 28/6/07 at 09:32 PM

we are dead this week.
we've got about a couple of weeks work to do then we need some more.

anyone want some CCTV or access control systems?


adithorp - 28/6/07 at 09:33 PM

I'm motor trade and we're dead. We always are in June though.

Adrian


whitestu - 28/6/07 at 09:33 PM

I'm not in a trade anymore, but if you look at the amount of house building going on in London and then add in the Olymplics, Tube upgrades and amount of money being spent building / refurbishing schools I can't imagine much slowing down in any trade linked to the building industry.

As long as you are prepared to work in London.
Stu

[Edited on 28/6/07 by whitestu]


nib1980 - 28/6/07 at 09:41 PM

I'm flat out busy now, but I'm not allowed to tell you whatn I do he he


richardR1 - 28/6/07 at 09:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
kitchen fitting.

(can i say does anyone want one without getting banned?!)


Would have thought there will be plenty of work shortly replacing flood damaged kitchens especially if you can get in with the insurance companies.


Aboardman - 28/6/07 at 09:51 PM

i work in an architects are we are dead, nothing for the last month, and nothing coming in

been thinking about retraining but do not know what.


ELO - 28/6/07 at 09:52 PM

I'm slowing down to, (well at work at least!) but then I work at a school

This time of year is great, Yr 11 finished their GCSE's, Yr10 on work experience (there goes all the businesses in Bedford ) and Yr 9 on 'Alternative curriculum' week. So far been snowboarding in Milton Keynes last week, doing D of E next and going cycling for the day!
It *almost* makes up for being sworn at on a regular basis!

Roll on July 21st!
ed


Hellfire - 28/6/07 at 10:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
kitchen fitting.

(can i say does anyone want one without getting banned?!)


Seeing as you plugging a service thats either your own or close to your heart, and blatantly trying to get sales from the post, what about signing up as a "trader" to support this site. ?

Phil


se7ensport - 28/6/07 at 10:02 PM

I hate to be a doom mongure, but it looks as though we are heading in to a global recession, possible depression.

We are at peak oil, the yen carry trade is unwinding, CDO are about to get revalued (look at bear sterns funds collapsing in the last week), UK personal debt has just topped £1.3trillion, USA is at the beginning of a massive house price crash (when they catch a cold we get the flu), interest rates are going to continue to increase (the historic long term average is approx 7%!!!!), we have had 10years of continuous growth due to exceptionally low interest rates (nothing to do with Brown), when this comes to an end a painfull revision to the mean will commence.

I'm in the process of loking into a recession proof job: anything involving booze, debt collection, councilling or removals is likely to do well.


The last time things looked this bad was 1929.


TangoMan - 28/6/07 at 10:06 PM

Slowing down.... I wish!!

I am importing nearly 4000 cars over this weekend and am still trying to find sufficient transporter capacity to move then to storage.

No-one has any spare capacity as everyone is flat out.

Probably my busiest weekend/ of the year so far. God knows who the manufacturers think will buy all these cars.


TGR-ECOSSE - 28/6/07 at 10:09 PM

I work in the electronic manufacturing industry and we are realy struggling. The only thing keeping us going is that some companies want the work to be done in this country rather than China etc. I can see the place closing within a year .75 %of the workforce have been paid off in the last 2 years


higgsti - 28/6/07 at 10:16 PM

im in double glazing and its been feast and famine this year.one minute ive loads of work then it gets to a week ahead then its back again


billynomates - 28/6/07 at 10:26 PM

hate to be a doom mongure, but it looks as though we are heading in to a global recession, possible depression.

We are at peak oil, the yen carry trade is unwinding, CDO are about to get revalued (look at bear sterns funds collapsing in the last week), UK personal debt has just topped £1.3trillion, USA is at the beginning of a massive house price crash (when they catch a cold we get the flu), interest rates are going to continue to increase (the historic long term average is approx 7%!!!!), we have had 10years of continuous growth due to exceptionally low interest rates (nothing to do with Brown), when this comes to an end a painfull revision to the mean will commence.

I'm in the process of loking into a recession proof job: anything involving booze, debt collection, councilling or removals is likely to do well.


The last time things looked this bad was 1929.


That could have come straight from the mouth of David Cameron.

But your obviously not him as you must be at least 79 years old if you can remember 1929


Avoneer - 28/6/07 at 10:30 PM

Our workload is always there!

And my job's pretty safe - as long as you lot keep committing motoring offences and other folk keep breaking the law.

Pat...


minordelay - 28/6/07 at 10:41 PM

I work in what I thought would be a fairly stable job, FE teaching. I've seen one round of volantary redundancies, and expect another soon, In only 4 years!!!
Kids are crap they think there owed everything, beats been on the spanners and chasing bonus, I'll take my chances.

If the economy doesn't kill this country the future workforce might, maybe I'm too cynical.


Simon - 28/6/07 at 10:58 PM

Art founder.

While we are reasonably priced, our clients products (that we make) sell in the high end luxury goods type of market, and I reckon if things keep going the way they are, we'll have a cracking year.

Which is nice!

Feel for you if things are tight, been there before!

ATB

Simon


se7ensport - 29/6/07 at 12:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by billynomates
hate to be a doom mongure, but it looks as though we are heading in to a global recession, possible depression.

We are at peak oil, the yen carry trade is unwinding, CDO are about to get revalued (look at bear sterns funds collapsing in the last week), UK personal debt has just topped £1.3trillion, USA is at the beginning of a massive house price crash (when they catch a cold we get the flu), interest rates are going to continue to increase (the historic long term average is approx 7%!!!!), we have had 10years of continuous growth due to exceptionally low interest rates (nothing to do with Brown), when this comes to an end a painfull revision to the mean will commence.

I'm in the process of loking into a recession proof job: anything involving booze, debt collection, councilling or removals is likely to do well.


The last time things looked this bad was 1929.


That could have come straight from the mouth of David Cameron.

But your obviously not him as you must be at least 79 years old if you can remember 1929



From the mouth of david cameron? I doubt it, he is a toff playing at being an MP, he doesn't understand the first thing about economics or the consequences of a "global economy".

re: 1929, the simularities are uncanny, but unfortunatley on a much larger scale, I'm not suggesting buying tinned food and burying it, but that the last ten years will seem very comfortable compared to what we are about to experience over the next 10.

The economic cycle has not been broken, only extended (by keeping interest rates at an artificially low level, as quoted by Lord George), nobody will disagree that we have been in a boom period for the last decade, only the misguided will suggest a "soft landing" will follow (never in the history of man has a boom not been followed by a bust as the mean is restored).


t.j. - 29/6/07 at 06:26 AM

In NL we're growing stronger.
We heave workmen short!

Now we have polnish guys but they also get short.

Can't say we're heading for a down-wards economy any more.

Things looking good.

So when will the UK get that euro


speedyxjs - 29/6/07 at 07:02 AM

We run the local frozen meal delivery service and ours is about normal, although trade does drop off in the summer (not that we have had much of one ). I think more people eat salads in the summer.


fesycresy - 29/6/07 at 07:25 AM

Books closed to new customers !

As of the 1st July, I'll have 160 services outstanding (varying from half day jobs to 6 week jobs).

Orders for new installation backed up, breakdowns coming in everyday as well as the day to day remedial / repair works.

If there are any ACS qualified industrial heating engineers or air conditioning / refrigeration engineers in South Wales reading this - please ring me ! You start Monday.


rjbrookes - 29/6/07 at 09:25 AM

the airline industry is going strong....but that also peaks and troughs about every 9 years....last one was Sept 11 2001.....watch this space i reckon!

russ


DarrenW - 29/6/07 at 10:15 AM

Im on with property dev #2 at the mo. So far ive managed to get a gas fitter here for a week installing new heating system and only had to wait a few days, and a joiner started this week with 1 days notice. Previously i would have had to wait a week just for them to take a look and then probs 6 weeks to start.


Unfortunately the kitchen is almost completed Joel. Ive managed to get an account with Howdens this time which saved me a bit.


nick205 - 29/6/07 at 10:42 AM

Custom IT hardware manufacturing business.

Very poor start to the year, but the last 2 months have gone beserk and it's not slowing down either. We tend to be project driven which can make things a bit up and down, but it seems to be up and up at the moment.

I'm also in the process of adding a conservatory, so been speaking to various builders, window fitters, sparkies etc. They all seem busy and booking 4-5 weeks ahead.


nathanharris1987 - 29/6/07 at 02:35 PM

The firm I'm at works as fast as what our water does, recently its been crazy, any guesses as to why? One of the few jobs that gets interesting when it rains, but usually if we were any more laid back we'd be asleep.

Ahhh the joys of local authority!

Hats off to you guys in industry though! Personally couldnt hack it.


Confused but excited. - 29/6/07 at 02:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nib1980
I'm flat out busy now, but I'm not allowed to tell you whatn I do he he


Arms dealer?

The manufacturing industry is dying because short of sighted greed by company owners like Dyson. They close factories here and have products made in the far east at 10% of the cost here. They forget that when we are all out of work, no one will be able to buy their products, including the people that made them, because they are on medieval pay scales.
When we no longer have a manufacturing base and the Chinese have a massive one, does anyone think that they will all still stay at home? I doubt it.
Without an engineering/manufacuting infrastructure you cannot defend your country.
In fifty years, those of you young enough to still be around, had better forget Haynes manuals and order your Little Red Book. It will be blue suits all round.

Rant over.............for now.


Aboardman - 29/6/07 at 04:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
kitchen fitting.

(can i say does anyone want one without getting banned?!)


are you a member of pistonheads you might be able to get some work

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=408605


Benzine - 29/6/07 at 05:11 PM

I've just started a new job as a canal boat builder, waiting list for new customers is 2010 so I'm busy atm


DIY Si - 29/6/07 at 05:36 PM

Avoneer, are you a screw or a copper? Or something else in that "industry"?
I should be alright reagrdless of what happens, as I change domestic and light industrial leccy meters. This needs doing on a rolling basis and is determined by law (meters are only considered accurate for so many years), so even if it does go all pete tong, I just go round fitting pre-payment meters. Admittedly not good for others, but keeps me busy. Missus is in H & S, so should be ok. I hope. If not, anyone want to give me loads of money?


JoelP - 29/6/07 at 06:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Aboardman
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
kitchen fitting.

(can i say does anyone want one without getting banned?!)


are you a member of pistonheads you might be able to get some work

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=408605


nice, cheers for that. Bit cheeky signing up just to advertise but hey, desperate times etc

Si, pat works in the magistrate court.


DIY Si - 29/6/07 at 06:05 PM

Ah, I have a mate who does something similar for the police. He puts the CPS cases together, or something like that.


gazza285 - 29/6/07 at 09:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
desperate times etc






What you like at steel erecting?


JoelP - 29/6/07 at 10:16 PM

i find stealing and erections dont mix well for me


gazza285 - 29/6/07 at 10:26 PM

What happened, hooker dipped your wallet?


JoelP - 29/6/07 at 10:28 PM



i have two lads to employ so a career change is tricky - that said, im halfway to sacking one after today.


Avoneer - 1/7/07 at 08:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Ah, I have a mate who does something similar for the police. He puts the CPS cases together, or something like that.


Almost the same, but I put the Courts papers together and organise the Magistrates' at Court.

Oh, endorse driving licences as well!

Pat...


JoelP - 1/7/07 at 09:00 AM

i got 6 points at wakefield magistrates court 6 years ago, cheers pat! lol


Avoneer - 2/7/07 at 09:50 PM

Good job I work at Dewsbury then!

Calderdale gave me 6 as well!

Pat...


se7ensport - 12/8/07 at 09:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by billynomates
hate to be a doom mongure, but it looks as though we are heading in to a global recession, possible depression.

We are at peak oil, the yen carry trade is unwinding, CDO are about to get revalued (look at bear sterns funds collapsing in the last week), UK personal debt has just topped £1.3trillion, USA is at the beginning of a massive house price crash (when they catch a cold we get the flu), interest rates are going to continue to increase (the historic long term average is approx 7%!!!!), we have had 10years of continuous growth due to exceptionally low interest rates (nothing to do with Brown), when this comes to an end a painful revision to the mean will commence.

I'm in the process of looking into a recession proof job: anything involving booze, debt collection, counselling or removals is likely to do well.


The last time things looked this bad was 1929.


That could have come straight from the mouth of David Cameron.

But your obviously not him as you must be at least 79 years old if you can remember 1929


Telegraph this Saturday

" City hit by biggest crisis for a decade.....

Experts predicted that the turbulence could have knock-on effects for all British households, depressing the housing market, potentially pushing unemployment higher and plunging pension funds into deficit.

They said the British economy's decade-long boom, built for a large part on the success of the City, was facing its sternest test, with many parts of the financial sector in a state of meltdown....

Prof Spencer said the crisis was in many senses comparable to the Wall Street Crash.

He said: "When historians look back, I would imagine they will compare this credit market slump with the events in 1929.""


Looks like things are going to head downhill from here!


gezer - 12/8/07 at 01:44 PM

My son left uni last year with a degree in computer games and 3D graphics design,
when he started doing his degree the games companies were fighting to take them on after they finished,
but the yanks bought out half the firms and moved games development to the states, so now nothing unless you have three years experience,

he can't even get a job shelf filling at asda as all the low payed jobs have been taken by people from the eastern block countries,

i've no problem with them coming over here (i married a ukrainian women) (now ex) and can understand why they want to come here after going out there a few times and seeing how they live,

the govt tell us there are 400,000 to 600,000 arrived in the last two years, but they dont really know as up until now they did'nt keep count !!!

a couple of weeks ago the Polish president gave a speach in his parliment and said the figure of poles who had gone to the UK and ireland was 1 and a half million,
being an ex soviet country they actually count you in and count you out at the borders, i think our politicians have their hands behind their backs and their fingures crossed when they give us these figures,
food for thought,