02GF74
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 posted on 24/11/09 at 02:39 PM |
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holiday and sick
let's say you take a week off work as paid vcation and let's say that for 2 of the days you are in bed with sickness.
can you claw back the 2 sick days so end up with 2 more days of holidays or tough titties.
would this be at discretion of HR or written in stone in employment law?
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blakep82
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 02:42 PM |
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think it would be up to HR, but i don't think they'd let you get away with it
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scootz
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 02:43 PM |
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It was the norm with my former employer... if you're sick, then you ain't on holiday!
It's Evolution Baby!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 02:54 PM |
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I think it depends on local policy.
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blakep82
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 02:54 PM |
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^ think i'd been working for RBS too long. they'd have the rings off your fingers if you died at work lol (don't kknow where that
came from!)
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Project7
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 03:02 PM |
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Yes i think you can
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new
s/worldnews/europe/eu/6193428/Holiday-sickness-ruling-will-hit-small-businesses.html
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MikeR
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 03:05 PM |
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Its company policy at my place and I think its the law as well.
You'll probably have to get a doctors note to prove it though.
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Humbug
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 03:08 PM |
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If you're sick (and you may need doc's note depending on policy) then you aren't taking holiday... I would look at it that if it is
something that means I would not normally go into work, then I'm sick and my holiday days should be clawed back
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Macbeast
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 03:12 PM |
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The court ruling made clear that if a "worker does not wish to take annual leave during a period of sick leave, annual leave must be granted
to him for a different period".
That would seem to say that you would have to be on sick leave before the booked holiday started.
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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jacko
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 03:35 PM |
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Where i work people book days holidays when on sick because if you go on sick you dont get pay for the first 3 days if you are off more then 4 weeks
you get the 3 days back
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02GF74
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 03:47 PM |
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woo hoo - finally managed to find HR and she says yay if my manager says yeah;
whether I get them back remains to be seen but was worth a shot I guess.
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MikeLR
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 05:49 PM |
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If you are off sick you are not on Holiday !
One thing that I could not come to term with in the NHS was that you still accrued A.L. whilst on Maternity leave !
Mike
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spaximus
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 06:05 PM |
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My view on this is that some will take advantage of something which was designed to look after people genuinly ill. If you are on holiday in Spain and
for two days of your holiday you are sick, do you seriously suggest it is fair to then come back and have your employer give you extra. The law was
designed so that people who have booked holidays who are so ill they cannot take them are not then told that they have no pay and by the way you have
lost your holiday as well. It was not designed as a malingers charter which is what some will use it as.
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 24/11/09 at 08:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by spaximus
My view on this is that some will take advantage of something which was designed to look after people genuinly ill. If you are on holiday in Spain and
for two days of your holiday you are sick, do you seriously suggest it is fair to then come back and have your employer give you extra. The law was
designed so that people who have booked holidays who are so ill they cannot take them are not then told that they have no pay and by the way you have
lost your holiday as well. It was not designed as a malingers charter which is what some will use it as.
There was a recent change in the law, allowing people like my wife not to lose her holidays - she was on maternity leave and had holidays to take
between returning and the end of the year, but was then ill for the rest of the year and couldn't take them. The European Court ruled that
holidays are required (min 4 weeks per year) to allow employees to rest and relax from work and help maintain their health and that while people are
ill, they are not enjoying the right to this rest and relaxation and therefore must retain the holidays for future use. Following that logic someone
being ill for even a few days of a holiday should be able to reclaim the time.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 06:31 AM |
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You lot get paid for being sick? What mystical company are you working for where they give a s**t about employees?
Can someone U2U me an application form?
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