Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 26/3/10 at 06:52 PM |
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Originally posted by scootz
Bloody hell... sounds awful - and any sense of curiosity to click the link has well and truly been dispensed of! No chance!
I've had the misfortune to see all kinds of nasties involving my fellow species over a number of years... some tragic accidents, others the
results of a deliberate act of violence on each other. Without exception I was always able to approach each with a level of professionalism and do
what had to be done. Show me an animal suffering though and I will just crumble and become the most pathetic useless sod in the vicinity!
This may sound a bit odd to some, but I have more respect for animals per se than I do for my fellow humans! Years of experiencing the darker
side of 'humanity' in close detail I suppose!
I'm about the same. Humans doing stuff to humans doesn't bother me so much, it's just when the victim is defenseless and vulnerable
(animals and kids mostly) it really, really makes me angry.
Won't be watching that.
If disfunction is a function, then I must be some kind of genius.
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James
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| posted on 26/3/10 at 09:47 PM |
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It is hard to "do your bit" as regards something like this. Other than avoiding those products (as said above, who buys fur these days???)
what can you do? Writing to your MP is one thing I guess, donating to relevant charities is another I suppose.
BUT! There are things we can do far more directly and easily and at home!!!
And amongst all the folk who've posted saying how horrible this video is, I'm sure that next time you (or your Missus!) do your weekly
shop you won't buy anything but:
free-range eggs,
British free-range pork,
Free-range chicken and other meat,
MSC (Marine stewardship council) certified fish,
Line-caught Tuna
oh, and avoid anything containing palm oil (or those products listing palm oil as innocent sounding vegetable oil).
If you can't afford free-range British pork then atleast buy British non-freerange pork as the pork welfare standards across Europe are awful
compared to here.
My girlfriend and I do adhere to the above, yes, it costs us more (or we buy less!) but frankly I'm not will to PAY someone to torture an animal
for my eating benefit!
Cheers,
James
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hicost blade
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| posted on 27/3/10 at 12:54 AM |
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Originally posted by James
It is hard to "do your bit" as regards something like this. Other than avoiding those products (as said above, who buys fur these days???)
what can you do? Writing to your MP is one thing I guess, donating to relevant charities is another I suppose.
BUT! There are things we can do far more directly and easily and at home!!!
And amongst all the folk who've posted saying how horrible this video is, I'm sure that next time you (or your Missus!) do your weekly
shop you won't buy anything but:
free-range eggs,
British free-range pork,
Free-range chicken and other meat,
MSC (Marine stewardship council) certified fish,
Line-caught Tuna
oh, and avoid anything containing palm oil (or those products listing palm oil as innocent sounding vegetable oil).
If you can't afford free-range British pork then atleast buy British non-freerange pork as the pork welfare standards across Europe are awful
compared to here.
My girlfriend and I do adhere to the above, yes, it costs us more (or we buy less!) but frankly I'm not will to PAY someone to torture an animal
for my eating benefit!
Cheers,
James
+1
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scootz
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| posted on 27/3/10 at 08:12 AM |
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The problem surrounding making a conscious decision to avoid Palm Oil is that it's more than often not listed at all in the ingredients list...
it's just classed as vegetable Oil!
It's Evolution Baby!
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morcus
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| posted on 27/3/10 at 08:22 AM |
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I've seen worse things but I kind of wish I hadn't watched it. It didn't really make sense, for one thing you'd risk damaging
the fur with the methods they used (I'm in no way suggesting that is whats wrong with what I saw though, that was truely barbaric). It's
almost impossible not to buy things from china just from the huge amount of stuff they make.
I didn't think we were even allowed to buy fur without permission from the government, and from the article it seems its Americans that are
buying it. I don't trust Peta, I believe what I saw happened, but as someone else said, is it all true and is that the normal way?
I'm slightly uncomfortable that some here seem to think All Chinese people are barbaric monsters, I'm sure there are a great number of
Chinese people who would agree that what was happening there was wrong.
Stupid question, why should we be avoiding Palm oil?
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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scootz
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| posted on 27/3/10 at 08:36 AM |
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Deforestation on a massive scale to make way for Palm Oil plantations... environmental impact plus the extinction of various species of Tiger, Bear,
Orangutan, etc.
It's Evolution Baby!
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morcus
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| posted on 27/3/10 at 09:19 AM |
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Thanks, I'd heard before about avoiding Palm Oil but thats the first time anyone as told me why.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Benzine
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| posted on 27/3/10 at 09:40 AM |
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You can get ethically sourced palm oil btw, check labels.
I've heard people moan about soya beans causing deforrestation "oh I'm not buying that soya milk, it's wiping out
trees!"
Fun fact: 98% of soya beans are grown to feed cattle. XD So enjoy your steak, but avoid soya products for humans like the plague!
[Edited on 27/3/10 by Benzine]
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indykid
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| posted on 27/3/10 at 11:30 AM |
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i didn't think there was anything that could shock me so much on the internet, but that was truly, genuinely horrific. i could only bring myself
to watch to halfway through
i'm not a violent person, but if i saw someone doing that, i'd be compelled to offer them the same fate.
it might have been a one off show for PETA, who as has been mentioned, i wouldn't trust implicitly....but how the f**k could you bring yourself
to do it? even if paid to do it?
if karma has its way, i hope they get their comeuppence in bucketloads
tom
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 28/3/10 at 11:22 AM |
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People still buy fur? I really thought this was a dead market now
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