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locoboy

posted on 12/5/10 at 07:35 PM Reply With Quote
Employment advice req.

Guys I'm nearing the end of a lengthy change of employment process. My current employer does not know I am thinking of leaving as yet.

My prospective employer has NOT offered me a job as yet but has outlined 3 intake dates but has given no indication of which one I would, should or could be on yet they are asking if they can seek references from my current employer!

Surely most other recruitment scenarios go along the lines that you get offered a post subject to satisfactory references?

They are trying to hold me to ransome by saying that it is first come first served with the references as to who gets on te first intake, although they can not confim I would be on that intake! Let alone confirm ther they are definately offering me a job!!

Here are the possible outcomes.

I agree to references and I start beginning of July.

I agree to references and I don't make the july intake for one reason. I then get pushed back to the next availabe intake in November. Leaving me working at a company for 5-6 months where they all know I want to leave meaning I would be first out the door if any redundencies were to crop up, it would not make for a pleasant working environment and I would probably miss out on any pay increase if there were to be one.

I tell my prospective employer that I will wait unroll November anyway and that they can request my references in october.

What would you do?

Is it legal to request references prior to offering a position?





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eznfrank

posted on 12/5/10 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
What would/could your current employer do if they found you were looking elsewhere anyway? And if they made you redundant would you get a few quid or not been there long enough? Could be a nice tactical gamble in there for you?

[Edited on 12/5/10 by eznfrank]

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roadrunner

posted on 12/5/10 at 07:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eznfrank
What would/could your current employer do if they found you were looking elsewhere anyway? And if they made you redundant would you get a few quid or not been there long enough? Could be a nice tactical gamble in there for you?

[Edited on 12/5/10 by eznfrank]

Make life very difficult.
I would get back to your possible new employers to ask why and to look at it from you point of view and the possible difficulties you could be put under.
If they become unreasonable , then maybe your better off not working for them. IMHO.
Brad.

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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 12/5/10 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
What I say here is biased on the grounds that I'm redundant, in my mid-40's and appear to be on the scrap heap. Yes, I am also bitter.

OK, a job is precious. You do not have a firm offer of the 'new' job it seems, or at least I read that from the lack of offer confirmation. I think the latter is serious, I would want that before I did anything else.

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PSpirine

posted on 12/5/10 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
I agree.. your current job is your fall back. Don't do anything to jeopardise it until you have a tangible grip on the new job.

You should be able to explain to them that you are unable to provide references until a firm acceptance and start date. I would sign a contract of employment that has a clause along the lines of "subject to satisfactory references from previous employer" before proceeding.

As said by someone above, if the new employer is so unwilling and unflexible, then I'd be highly wary of wanting to work there in the first place (unless your current employer is even worse!)

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Paul TigerB6

posted on 12/5/10 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PSpirine
I agree.. your current job is your fall back. Don't do anything to jeopardise it until you have a tangible grip on the new job.

You should be able to explain to them that you are unable to provide references until a firm acceptance and start date. I would sign a contract of employment that has a clause along the lines of "subject to satisfactory references from previous employer" before proceeding.

As said by someone above, if the new employer is so unwilling and unflexible, then I'd be highly wary of wanting to work there in the first place (unless your current employer is even worse!)


Absolutely agree 100%. I'd say no they cant without a firm offer and a fixed start date. If they wont accept that then are they worth working for??

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locoboy

posted on 13/5/10 at 06:00 PM Reply With Quote
I believe they are worth working for and it it a very big public organisation, who, if I'm honest should and could have done things in a far better way!





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bmseven

posted on 13/5/10 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
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