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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 4/8/10 at 12:32 PM Reply With Quote
Steak

I had this lovely steak last night, funny thing was it tasted identical to the steak I had last week

Should I be worried





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posted on 4/8/10 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
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vinny1275

posted on 4/8/10 at 12:35 PM Reply With Quote
pfffffffttttt......








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cd.thomson

posted on 4/8/10 at 12:46 PM Reply With Quote
someone needs to tell the daily fail that "clone" means "identical".

Its not as exciting as "genetically modified" and even thats pretty boring once you know the science!





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Peteff

posted on 4/8/10 at 12:46 PM Reply With Quote
Was it like Groundhog day ?





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jossey

posted on 4/8/10 at 12:52 PM Reply With Quote
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smart51

posted on 4/8/10 at 01:10 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
someone needs to tell the daily fail that "clone" means "identical".



Not in this case. The "clone" has identical DNA but the animal is quite different. Studies show that the animals age prematurely or that they are born "old" at an "age" related to the animal they were cloned from. Post mortem studies of clones show significantly different growth patterns between the original and cloned animal that frequently leads to sever health problems and shorter life expectancy. Scientists are working to correct these problems but a clone cow currently is not identical to its parent other than at a genetic level.

Good steak gag btw!






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scootz

posted on 4/8/10 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
Wish we'd just leave things alone...





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jabbahutt

posted on 4/8/10 at 01:18 PM Reply With Quote
aren't there enough normal cows to go round?






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cd.thomson

posted on 4/8/10 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
someone needs to tell the daily fail that "clone" means "identical".



Not in this case. The "clone" has identical DNA but the animal is quite different. Studies show that the animals age prematurely or that they are born "old" at an "age" related to the animal they were cloned from. Post mortem studies of clones show significantly different growth patterns between the original and cloned animal that frequently leads to sever health problems and shorter life expectancy. Scientists are working to correct these problems but a clone cow currently is not identical to its parent other than at a genetic level.

Good steak gag btw!


Health problems linked to age related disease in clones is fairly easily explained when you understand the role of telomeres in cell regulation. Its not a mystery why dolly died the way she did.

A cloned cow is genotypically identical to its "mother" although it can vary phenotypically due to variations in the uterine environment of the surrogate cow and how its subsequently raised.

In effect its as different from its "parent" as a two identical twins are from each other. One may be fatter, and the other taller but they're still identical. If your point is that twins are significantly different from each other, then I see what you're saying- but they're still classed as identical.

[Edited on 4/8/10 by cd.thomson]





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scootz

posted on 4/8/10 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
... you would have thought so. I'd read it was those grass-munchers that were contributing to most of the methane in the atmosphere, so you'd think we would want to put a cap on them!

Unless of course the scientists are engineering them so they parp less!

Good grief... it's just like the mad scientist Mephesto in South Park. The engineer of the five-assed animals!





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Ninehigh

posted on 4/8/10 at 02:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
... you would have thought so. I'd read it was those grass-munchers that were contributing to most of the methane in the atmosphere, so you'd think we would want to put a cap on them!

Unless of course the scientists are engineering them so they parp less!

Good grief... it's just like the mad scientist Mephesto in South Park. The engineer of the five-assed animals!


That's why I eat more chicken
Just think if we stopped eating beef the "government" could back off us who go to work...






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violentblue

posted on 4/8/10 at 03:12 PM Reply With Quote
several years ago I was working at a small engineering firm with offices right next to a lab that was cloning race horses.
Got to be good friends with their lead geneticist.
he told me that the days of premature aging and health problems in clones are long gone, thats all been worked out, but due to the unpopularity of cloning in the media, they don't announce their breakthroughs any more.
He says that with about $15000 worth of equipment he could clone a human many times over, but they don't. the real expense is in the know how.

the same company he works for has another lab that specializes in pigs.
the entire world population of pork could be wiped out, and within 3 years they could be back into full production with very little loss of their major genetic lines.


[Edited on 4/8/10 by violentblue]





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Richard Quinn

posted on 4/8/10 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
I think it's all a con. I probably couldn't tell two cows apart anyway.
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Liam

posted on 4/8/10 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by violentblue
the entire world population of pork could be wiped out



NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! POOOOOOOOOOOOORK!!!!

quote:

and within 3 years they could be back into full production with very little loss of their major genetic lines.



Phew!

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locogeoff

posted on 4/8/10 at 06:42 PM Reply With Quote
A Song for Liam

Now where is that thread about horses?

[Edited on 4/8/10 by locogeoff]

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splitrivet

posted on 4/8/10 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
Funnily enough we had spam last week and this week the spam tasted the same.
Cheers,
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Ninehigh

posted on 4/8/10 at 06:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
I think it's all a con. I probably couldn't tell two cows apart anyway.


That's the conspiracy, they're all cloned!






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Liam

posted on 4/8/10 at 07:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by locogeoff
A Song for Liam

Now where is that thread about horses?

[Edited on 4/8/10 by locogeoff]


Awesome! Been listening to that for over an hour now - when does it end? Not that I want it to, but I am getting hungry.

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Confused but excited.

posted on 4/8/10 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
I had this lovely steak last night, funny thing was it tasted identical to the steak I had last week

Should I be worried


Depends, what were the chips like?





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mcerd1

posted on 5/8/10 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
I think it's all a con. I probably couldn't tell two cows apart anyway.


I could have a go at telling them apart... (you can test me, but your buying )

I'm get alot of my steak from a farm just down the road - I'm sure my uncle would tell me if he was cloning them





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Vindi_andy

posted on 5/8/10 at 03:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
I had this lovely steak last night, funny thing was it tasted identical to the steak I had last week

Should I be worried


Depends, what were the chips like?


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Ninehigh

posted on 6/8/10 at 08:12 AM Reply With Quote
As my brother once said:
I want GM foods, at least I know what's in them. With this organic stuff there could be anything all over it.






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