Irony
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 03:49 PM |
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Thanks for all the replies. It seems that everyone has their own take on the situation.
I am probably going to go on the holiday. I have just had the dates signed of by the Managing Director. I explained the situation to him and he said
just take it off.
There is some truth behind the situation where you have to make yourself pretty invaluable in business these days. The minute people can cope without
you is the minute your not needed. Knowledge is power and you have to make sure you have the knowledge.
I do have a new assistant actually but she has been here just a couple of months. She has already asked for a payrise!!! To which my response was
'your still learning the job and consequently not being much use. When you are up to speed then you might make the company money, but now you
are actually costing us money'. She replied with 'but I have been working flat out learning the processes and other work related
items'. I said 'You may have been flat out but your still costing us cash. Work hard, learn fast, be enthusiasic and most importantly
make yourself invaluable to the business, then ask me again for a payrise.'
The right work ethics are the key to success in business I think. The day I stop having 'moral work dilemmas' is the day I become less
valuable to the business.
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Irony
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 03:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
tricky one this.
firsly noone is indispensible - you have at least 4 months prior to that show - can you not plan ahead so that your presence is not required?
subconsciouosly maybe you are concerned that someone can do the job as well or better than you?
I am not at all concerned that someone can do my job better than me. This may seem a colossal arrogance on my part but if there was someone I would
work harder and be better. If you turn your mind to something then you can achieve anything.
hehe Perhaps even build a Kit Car with zero prior knowledge.
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 05:58 PM |
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last year i came back from holiday early due to work. Left the wife and kid on holiday with her parents. They just accepted that, sometimes, you dont
turn work down.
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 06:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daviep
I would have to side with the workers, if you work for a good company/boss then your dedication and commitment will not go unnoticed and when pay
rises/promotions are being handed out you will be top of the list.
Davie
Absolute Crap. Ive worked for good bosses, and bad bosses. I used to work equally as hard and put some rediculous hours in, only to get told
"Theres no budget for training this year" and "sorry, but no one is getting a pay rise this year". Ive Heard all the
corporate excuses before, and been laid off twice. The only time working flat out benefits YOU is when you work for yourself - in which case Joel,
youre correct.
I also hate the phrase "Knowledge is power". It isnt. The "Firm" will always try to find someone else or some other way that
is cheaper to get that knowledge. Just because they smile at you doesnt mean youre not on the hit list for the head count slash next month.
Been here too many times before, and it seems the less you do, the further you get im afraid.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 06:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote:
Originally posted by daviep
I would have to side with the workers, if you work for a good company/boss then your dedication and commitment will not go unnoticed and when pay
rises/promotions are being handed out you will be top of the list.
Davie
Absolute Crap. Ive worked for good bosses, and bad bosses. I used to work equally as hard and put some rediculous hours in, only to get told
"Theres no budget for training this year" and "sorry, but no one is getting a pay rise this year". Ive Heard all the
corporate excuses before, and been laid off twice. The only time working flat out benefits YOU is when you work for yourself - in which case Joel,
youre correct.
I also hate the phrase "Knowledge is power". It isnt. The "Firm" will always try to find someone else or some other way that
is cheaper to get that knowledge. Just because they smile at you doesnt mean youre not on the hit list for the head count slash next month.
Been here too many times before, and it seems the less you do, the further you get im afraid.
I can see where you're coming from, but i would mention that the lad i employ is bloody good at fitting kitchens, but cannot do worktop joins or
electrics, so he effectively cannot set up on his own. So there is an element at least of knowledge giving you an advantage.
Also, though i might not always be able to reward or punish good or bad employees, i do certainly know very well each of their good and bad points,
and when it comes round to redundancies, i have a whole list of unofficial reasons to help my decision - even if i couldnt mention them to the
employees as it might appear unfair if it went to a tribunal.
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interestedparty
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 07:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote:
Originally posted by daviep
I would have to side with the workers, if you work for a good company/boss then your dedication and commitment will not go unnoticed and when pay
rises/promotions are being handed out you will be top of the list.
Davie
Absolute Crap.
I think you need to read what he said more carefully- he said "If you work for a GOOD company"
I'm sorry to hear about the crap places you've worked, I've worked in plenty of those, but I've also worked in good firms, and
in those the extra effort does get noticed, and rewarded. It's just one of the things that makes the difference between a good firm and the more
usual type
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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bmseven
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 08:48 PM |
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Glad to hear your taking the time off enjoy it, work is always there family may not be.
Too many people are married to their jobs 
None of us are indispensable, we are all DISPENSABLE
BMW 7 Resource
Bures Pit anyone?
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interestedparty
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| posted on 13/8/10 at 08:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bmseven
None of us are indispensable, we are all DISPENSABLE
But the current economic climate isn't really the best time to remind your employers of that
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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bmseven
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| posted on 14/8/10 at 07:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by interestedparty
quote:
Originally posted by bmseven
None of us are indispensable, we are all DISPENSABLE
But the current economic climate isn't really the best time to remind your employers of that
What economic climate 
BMW 7 Resource
Bures Pit anyone?
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 14/8/10 at 08:18 PM |
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What economic climate
The one where firms are skint ( but busier than ever)
Where you never do enough ( even if you have for 25 plus years)
Where you work harder and longer hours
Where you can get paid time/half or double time but the firm cannot give you a payrise (WTF is that about)
SO TAKE your holidays with your familly ( I used to be like you). NOT ANYMORE
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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